This is a tough gauntlet. I don't even know if he can make it to 6 before he stops there. lol
batman runs the gauntlet
Don't know anything about crossbones but neither he or taskmaster know anything about batman and with morals off he can beat taskmaster. So maybe he stops at 6 depending on crossbones.
He stops at 5 moral on or off there is no way he can pass Daredevil and the Punisher at the same time there are not batman sidekicks those guys are tough when solo together they are insanely dangerous. Daredevil is good in h2h his skill if not is almost comparable to the bat his sens and reflexes can prevent him to get hit by any kind of projectile throw at him with Franck as a back up? please he stops at 5 I don't need to talk about Tasky and cross because he will never pass 5
Clears.
You think he can take Taskmaster(No jobbing) and Crossbones at the same time? Honestly, Tony himself has a good case for getting a majority over Batman, and while Brock can't say the same for himself, he can at least be a nuisance.
Clears.
You think he can take Taskmaster(No jobbing) and Crossbones at the same time? Honestly, Tony himself has a good case for getting a majority over Batman, and while Brock can't say the same for himself, he can at least be a nuisance.
Sure. Tasky wouldn't get a majority over Bruce, I don't think. And neither does the Vine. ;)
Bruce is anything but an idiot, if he knows he's in trouble against two formidable opponents, he'll just go for stealth or gear. Plus, Tasky lets his CIS get the better of him (which is essentially Bruce's main advantage), which is an easily exploitable weakness for someone who's a master at preying upon weaknesses. Tasky may have a crazy powerset, but it's how he uses it that counts.
Clears.
You think he can take Taskmaster(No jobbing) and Crossbones at the same time? Honestly, Tony himself has a good case for getting a majority over Batman, and while Brock can't say the same for himself, he can at least be a nuisance.
Sure. Tasky wouldn't get a majority over Bruce, I don't think. And neither does the Vine. ;)
Bruce is anything but an idiot, if he knows he's in trouble against two formidable opponents, he'll just go for stealth or gear. Plus, Tasky lets his CIS get the better of him (which is essentially Bruce's main advantage), which is an easily exploitable weakness for someone who's a master at preying upon weaknesses. Tasky may have a crazy powerset, but it's how he uses it that counts.
Well, I do remember that thread, and honestly, people were looking at Taskmaster's CIS from a fairly superficial point of view. I know Taskmaster fairly well, and if you run through most of his worst cases of CIS, they tended to come against people whom he had meet or studied extensively before. This led him to become arrogant since he believed that he knew his aforementioned opponents like the back of his palm, and subsequently did something stupid. Most of the time when Taskmaster confronts someone he has never met before, he tends to be cautious because he's unaware of his opponents skill, and can't predict just yet, so I don't really see his CIS affecting him unless he studies Bruce before hand and feels confident that he knows Bruce pretty well. There also tends to be context around Taskmaster's jobbing like Deadpool and his unpredictability, etc.You say that it isn't Taskmaster's powerset that matters, but how he uses it, but he tends to use it fairly effectively in randoms with no knowledge like @ghostravage can explain a little better than me. He recently used his powers to fuses most of the fighting styles he ever learned in Taskmaster #4(2012) and created a ludicrously unpredictable style. In his first meeting ever with Daredevil, he ended up copying the entirety of Matt's fighting style, and considering that this is a random encounter in which Tony would be inclined to be more cautious, this puts Bruce in trouble considering that he's limited to using certain moves once, or Taskmaster's body will just unconsciously lock unto the move, and end up countering it perfectly.
Honestly, from what I've noted, Tony in a random would be hell in a random encounter for Batman, and even if we do say Bruce gets a majority, he'd look like absolute crap after doing so, and add in Crossbones(Someone whom has stalemated Captain America), and Bruce is going to be in trouble. Fair play on gear and stealth though.
Batman Morals off will use gear against enemies he knows have an advantage over him. This is why he would beat a morals on Moon Knight who only knows basics about the op.
Jason Todd only has his omg stomp the greatest fighters and assassins all at once in his own insipid title. So he and Selina get owned pretty quick.
Nightwing and Tim Drake have nice gear, Beuce has always had better. The only minor problem would be the inertite wing power up, but it is nothing Batman has not dealt with before.
Croc and bane get owned with Batman's micro grenade explosives.
Round Five is really Batman vs Punisher. Bruce has knowledge of Matt's sound weaknesses, and will use them now that he is morals off. PIS off, Batman is finding Frank much more often than Frank is finding him. The crossover was BS and every Batman reader knows it (Joker afraid of death? The same one who has tried blowing himself up? Or jumping into acid he knew was probably lethal? And no end of suicidal level behavior? And people act like it is not a Castlewank)
Clears six by leveling whatever building they are fighting in or on. Bruce has shown the durability to detonate bombs in his hands and still walk away. Tony and Crossbones have no such durability.
New 52 Red Hood (Jason Todd) as already defeated him...but since here Batman is morals off...i would say he clears.
@wavemotioncannon: agreed
@kingant27: He's definitely not stopping at 3.
Clears it.
@dondave said:
Jason one shots him :P
He rips Batman open like he did the submarine.
@frozen: Yes he can, Nightwing and Robin together would arguably beat Batman in a 2 on 1.
Read up on some Batman - he'd win very handily.
@frozen: I have read up on both; but facing 2 people with training on par/on par with even Batman can give them the win.
Nightwing and Robin are nowhere near Batman in terms of training or fighting ability
@dondave: They are near him, and the fact that there is 2; depending on how this fight plays out, or what weapons they use could give either a win.
They aren't.
@dondave: With weapons of course they can beat Batman, as Batman can beat them.
There are many variable to consider, however with two characters who closely rival Batman's level, they could have the upper hand.
Tag teaming could enable them to overpower Batman, due to the fact that they obviously have another mind/another set of hands to throw stuff etc; as there is 2 vs 1.
@kingant27: Where are you getting this? Not only is Batman's skill {and showings} far more defined, but his physicals and gear surpasses theirs.
Taskmaster solos
I doubt it. Daredevil stalemated him... Bruce (especially when morals off) can take him down.
@kingant27: No. The difference between them is large - they won't win at all.
@frozen: So your saying there is no chance at all.... Yes there is.
2 people trained by Batman who definitely have an arsenal of weapons to kill Batman, as Batman has to kill them; so saying they won't win in a made up battle, is not true.
There are almost an infinite amount of scenario's to consider of how this fight could plan out, so saying they won't win at all; is very naive.
The duo can beat him, as Batman can beat them.
@kingant27: Read up on their feats - they are not remotely close to him. They have been 'trained' by Batman but are nowhere near his skill level, Batman's often matched Lady Shiva, and he's recently trashed Bane in the Forever Evil aftermath. Being 'trained' by Batman does not make you Batman. I'm not looking at an 'infinite' number of scenario, I'm looking at the scenario based on feats and evidence - Batman outclasses them in skill, gear, tactics, strength, striking power and durability.
He'd win an 8/10 over the duo.
@frozen: 1 on 1 Batman wins, I am not doubting that; but 2 on 1 is completely different, because Batman is having to comprehend with two people who he has trained; who have gear that can kill him.
Batman would not win 8/10, due to what; they have gear that can kill him, as he has gear that can kill them; so why can't they beat him, it is not as if Batman will react first and make the first hit; therefore they loose.
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