Poll Batman & Rune King Thor vs Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann (58 votes)
READ the OP first. Who wins in a universe-wide battle scenario?
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READ the OP first. Who wins in a universe-wide battle scenario?
1. Batman of DC (Post-Crisis, Pre-New 52 version). Or you may also substitute that with Batman of the animated Brave and The Bold series because he's what I had in mind when writing this thread.
TEAMS UP WITH
2. Rune King Thor of Marvel Comics, the version of Thor who is even more powerful than the galaxy-busting Odin the All-Father.
FIGHTS
3. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, the infamous energy-based mecha of the anime of the same name. A casual galaxy-buster who survived what seemed to be universe-busting attacks - Making it just as awful as DBZ in story quality.
In-character for both sides.
No use of time-travel attacks, as its a stupid plot device that leads to a never-ending argument.
The battle area is the entire universe.
Rune King Thor is well-versed with his own abilities and is at his peak.
As a special case, Batman can start the fight from another universe.
Batman has 10 years of prep. During that 10 years he has little interaction with Rune King Thor, instead he spent his time on researching Spiral Force. Batman also have access to Justice League resources.
TTGL.
Batman isn't doing much here; especially from another universe.
He can avoid TTGL's reality warping attacks by staying in another universe. Then send a bomb over to the other universe to be detonated at TTGL's pilot cockpit.
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Just stay away. This thread is about discussing how Batman can assist RKT to defeat TTGL, not about how you believe Batman loses To Superman.
with the ten years of prep batman can only just realize how badly they are going to lose the fight, as spiral energy is nigh omnipotent and as long as simon is unharmed he will just wreck
with the ten years of prep batman can only just realize how badly they are going to lose the fight, as spiral energy is nigh omnipotent and as long as simon is unharmed he will just wreck
Spiral Energy isn't nigh-omnipotent. Omnipotence hints effortless control. The fact that Simon relies on his hot-blooded emotions and acts constipated to do his tasks means effort is needed.
And there's nothing stopping Batman from making a cheap shot at Simon from faraway while Rune King Thor is distracting TTGL.
@wenjun_chew: first off thor won't be able to comprehend what he is fighting since of the size difference and second off NIGH OMNIPOTENETand third off omnipotent mean all powerful meaning they have the power to do basically anything and spiral energy has shown to have the power to do almost anything
with the ten years of prep batman can only just realize how badly they are going to lose the fight, as spiral energy is nigh omnipotent and as long as simon is unharmed he will just wreck
Spiral Energy isn't nigh-omnipotent. Omnipotence hints effortless control. The fact that Simon relies on his hot-blooded emotions and acts constipated to do his tasks means effort is needed.
And there's nothing stopping Batman from making a cheap shot at Simon from faraway while Rune King Thor is distracting TTGL.
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first off thor won't be able to comprehend what he is fighting since of the size difference and second off NIGH OMNIPOTENETand third off omnipotent mean all powerful meaning they have the power to do basically anything and spiral energy has shown to have the power to do almost anything
Spiral energy can do almost anything doesn't mean it can beat everything. The fact also remains that their weak points is the pilot cockpit which of course due to PIS hasn't been fully exploited.
RKT would give TTGL a tough fight. And this isn't Thor but RKT, an elder God who is above casual galaxy buster.
@wenjun_chew: spiral energy has shown to have the power to do almost anything
that didn't help anti spiral from being defeated by a big drill. and lord genome tanked his attack that was about to destroy TTGL with ease . if AS were at least night omnipotent , it wouldn't have had too much problems to destroy that mecha and lord genome in the process.
a big drill is not beating RK Thor.
Pathetic way to remake thread is pathetic
Pathetic opinion is pathetic.
Pathetic come back is pathetic
Irrelevant opinion is irrelevant.
Just stay away. This thread is about discussing how Batman can assist RKT to defeat TTGL, not about how you believe Batman loses To Superman.
isn't this thread to take opinions from people about which side wins rather than providing a suitable way for one side to defeat another? because if it's the later, then i think this thread is violating the rules
Team 2 gets god-stomped.
@silvergalford: you seem to know about gurren lagan,is it a good anime,or meh?
would you recommend it?
it's the tipical , NAKAMA POWER TOO STRONK ! or WILL POWER WILL SAVE THE WORLD , that's it.
@silvergalford: i don't think you understand what "Nigh" means it's not omnipotent but it is close , spiral energy is way more powerful than rkt , provide proof that shows that rkt can toss an attack at his galaxy+ sized opponent that is stronger than a universe busting attack.
first off thor won't be able to comprehend what he is fighting since of the size difference and second off NIGH OMNIPOTENETand third off omnipotent mean all powerful meaning they have the power to do basically anything and spiral energy has shown to have the power to do almost anything
Spiral energy can do almost anything doesn't mean it can beat everything. The fact also remains that their weak points is the pilot cockpit which of course due to PIS hasn't been fully exploited.
RKT would give TTGL a tough fight. And this isn't Thor but RKT, an elder God who is above casual galaxy buster.
are you implying that RKT is going to know he is fighting a mech? he is going to see a wall in front of him, a wall that he has no hope of breaking. TTGL is FTL and has FTL combat speeds lol (moving his arms and legs at that size should take years but he does it in seconds) i don't see any feats Showing RKT being able to damage TTGL
first off thor won't be able to comprehend what he is fighting since of the size difference and second off NIGH OMNIPOTENETand third off omnipotent mean all powerful meaning they have the power to do basically anything and spiral energy has shown to have the power to do almost anything
Spiral energy can do almost anything doesn't mean it can beat everything. The fact also remains that their weak points is the pilot cockpit which of course due to PIS hasn't been fully exploited.
RKT would give TTGL a tough fight. And this isn't Thor but RKT, an elder God who is above casual galaxy buster.
are you implying that RKT is going to know he is fighting a mech? he is going to see a wall in front of him, a wall that he has no hope of breaking. TTGL is FTL and has FTL combat speeds lol (moving his arms and legs at that size should take years but he does it in seconds) i don't see any feats Showing RKT being able to damage TTGL
Rune King Thor IIRC has cosmic awareness, not to universal omniscience levels, but hinted to be highly well-aware.
He's gonna figure out that TTGL is a galaxy-sized energy being very quickly.
And Batman could get Rune King Thor to distract TTGL while he goes after the TTGL pilots himself, using tagging equipment and Boom Tubes.
Updated the OP, Batman now has access to Justice League resources, clearly indicating that he can use Boom Tubes and Justice League weaponry as such
Bruce has no buisness being here
Actually my idea of a battle with TTGL for this scenario is that RKT serves as distraction while Batman goes after the pilots.
@wenjun_chew: spiral energy has shown to have the power to do almost anything
that didn't help anti spiral from being defeated by a big drill. and lord genome tanked his attack that was about to destroy TTGL with ease . if AS were at least night omnipotent , it wouldn't have had too much problems to destroy that mecha and lord genome in the process.
a big drill is not beating RK Thor.
An attack that happened to be the Big Bang and a drill larger than galaxies. At least try to use effort when down playing something.
@silvergalford: you seem to know about gurren lagan,is it a good anime,or meh?
would you recommend it?
it's the tipical , NAKAMA POWER TOO STRONK ! or WILL POWER WILL SAVE THE WORLD , that's it.
That's how I'd describe most comic special events.
Bruce has no buisness being here
Actually my idea of a battle with TTGL for this scenario is that RKT serves as distraction while Batman goes after the pilots.
You know TTGL's power comes from the pilots, right? So if Batman somehow did travel millions of lightyears to get there, Simon would pop him like a bubble.
@kingofash: Which is why Batman has to sneak up on the pilots and take them out by surprise. He has 10 years to perfect his strategy, so why not. Moreover during the 10 years he can figure out a defense against spiral energy. Spiral energy is essentially universal magic of sorts from how I analyzed it.
@wenjun_chew: It's not magic, it's a basic universal energyt hat exists in Gurren Lagann. By the way, the Anti-Spiral had aeons to think of ways to be rid of Spiral Power permanently, and the Anti-Spiral are nigh-omnisient. Some guy who beats up street thugs and has failed to even beat Superman after decades of prep literaly has 0% chance of victory. Not to mention Spiral Warriros could just reality warp him out of existance.
It's not magic, it's a basic universal energyt hat exists in Gurren Lagann. By the way, the Anti-Spiral had aeons to think of ways to be rid of Spiral Power permanently, and the Anti-Spiral are nigh-omnisient. Some guy who beats up street thugs and has failed to even beat Superman after decades of prep literaly has 0% chance of victory. Not to mention Spiral Warriros could just reality warp him out of existance.
But... Anti-Spirals are antagonists... They are not the same as Batman and Rune King Thor who are protagonists same with the Gurren Lagann team.
And the Spiral energy can't warp Batman out of existence if they don't know Batman is coming after them and if Batman is in another universe.
@wenjun_chew: That doesn't stop the Anti-Spiral from being infinitly more intelligent than Batman, protagonist or not. The fact that the Anti-Spiral were nigh-omniscient and still had no idea how to curb Spiral Energy bodes ill for someone who's prep keeps getting him beaten by street level thugs and criminals.
Batman's in another universe? Cute. TTGL sends probability missiles in his direction and end his existance. Or they could just destroy the universe that he's in. Not to mention even Rune King Thor has never been able to manipulate probability, reality warp time & space and absorb energy on par with the Big Bang.
This shows how much you know of TTGL. Grand Zomba used Galaxy Clusters not Galaxies. Galaxies are smudges compared to TTGL. Now about who wins? Eh I don't know.
@wenjun_chew: Don't call anyone or anything pathetic when you make the worst threads the Vine has ever seen.
Don't call anyone or anything pathetic when you make the worst threads the Vine has ever seen.
if by worst threads you mean threads which are hated due to the truth of Batman being able to solo most opponents listed on ComicVine battles, then yes.
@wenjun_chew: lol nice comeback, Wen
Don't call anyone or anything pathetic when you make the worst threads the Vine has ever seen.
if by worst threads you mean threads which are hated due to the truth of Batman being able to solo most opponents listed on ComicVine battles, then yes.
Ha ha ha ha! I know I said that I wasn't gonna participate in your threads anymore, but I had to stop in and applaud the sheer audacity of this comment.
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