Batman and Red Robin vs Deathstroke and Red Hood

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#1  Edited By ULTRAstarkiller
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Both teams get 1 week prep

Win death or KO

Red Hood, Red robin, and Bats have their standard equipment, DS has his sword

Pre and New 52 feats count

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#2  Edited By comicace3

Hmm I see it going either way. Bats and DS are good with prep. I'm not sure if Redhood is a weak link or not I've barely read his comics...

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#3  Edited By dondave

@comicace3:With prep Red Hood could have killed Batman

Team 2 ftw

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#4  Edited By comicace3

@dondave said:

@comicace3:With prep Red Hood could have killed Batman

Team 2 ftw

Question: Was batman aware of Redhood prepping and can he out prep Bats? Is he smarter than Red Robin when it comes to prep?

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#5  Edited By ULTRAstarkiller

I think DS and Redhood. DS is better than Bats and I hate Tim and love Jason

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#6  Edited By kingsloth

@dondave: red robin is smarter and a better prepper than Jason, he even admited this in death in the family. I still think jason wins but thats mostly due to deathstroke.

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#7  Edited By shroudofsorrow

While Batman is good with prep, DS is too. Also, Deathstroke has beaten Batman before, and Jason has beaten Tim Drake before. So I say Team 2 7/10. Honestly, without prep, I say they win 9/10.

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#8  Edited By heroesgold

Team 2 Deathstroke could solo.

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Anyone else?

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Team 2

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#11  Edited By dondave

@kingsloth said:

@dondave: red robin is smarter and a better prepper than Jason, he even admited this in death in the family. I still think jason wins but thats mostly due to deathstroke.

What issue was this as Ii don't remember him saying that

@comicace3: Batman is a better prep master than Jason, but I don't know any of Tim's prep feats

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#12  Edited By kingsloth

@dondave said:

@kingsloth said:

@dondave: red robin is smarter and a better prepper than Jason, he even admited this in death in the family. I still think jason wins but thats mostly due to deathstroke.

What issue was this as Ii don't remember him saying that

@comicace3: Batman is a better prep master than Jason, but I don't know any of Tim's prep feats

teen titans 16, Jason admits tim is smarter than him

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#13  Edited By CaptainJ

Batman and RR, though this could go the other way. Jason has it over Tim fighting wise, but Tim is better with prep, and bats should have it over Deathstroke.

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@CaptainJ: but deathstroke is like a superhuman, ripping of aeroplane doors while it was in flight, taking on a ninja clan. Idk, personally i'd go team 2 just cause of Deathstroke.

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#15  Edited By SUNMAN

so Basically this just comes down to Batman vs Dathstroke.

Pre-Flashpoint Deathstroke should win. Is he still as menacing in the new 52?

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#16  Edited By MethoKi

@heroesgold said:

Team 2 Deathstroke could solo.

Doubt that very highly.

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#17  Edited By 202122

DS and Red Hood ROMP

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#18  Edited By GodDamnIronMan

@heroesgold said:

Team 2 Deathstroke could solo.

No way Deathstroke is soloing.....

Tim is smarter than batman, Bruce himself admitted that...and with them 2 work together...a week is overkill

Team 1 should take this.

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#19  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

Team 2.

@GodDamnIronMan said:

@heroesgold said:

Team 2 Deathstroke could solo.

No way Deathstroke is soloing.....

Tim is smarter than batman, Bruce himself admitted that...and with them 2 work together...a week is overkill

Team 1 should take this.

If memory serves, I believe Bruce just conceded that Tim might be a better detective than him. That's not the same as being overall smarter.

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team 2

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@goddamnironman: batman never said tim was smarter. he said that he could grow up to be a better detective than him.

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I say team 2 takes this but not easily.

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Deathstroke's pre 52 feats mixed with his new 52 Nth metal armor that enhances his abilities to the point of being able to survive a subamrine thrown at him and continue fighting... i'm sad to say this is a bad day for team 1.

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Team 2 ftw

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@valarmorghulis: The pics?

The first one is Deathstroke 17 cover.

The next is Redhood and the Outlaws 7 I think.

Idk about the Tim one

The Batman one is Batman issue one cover.

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Team 2. Slade's gear and even more enhanced stats+ Jason's gear and awesome feats makes this really tough for Team Bat. Granted idk much about n52 Tim as I avoided Teen Titans like the plague. Jason has beaten Tim pre 52 so I don't think it should change much here. Even with that week of prep I still lean towards Team 2. Tim can build some robots though if that is allowed.

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This was literally written in Tim Drake's blood.
This was literally written in Tim Drake's blood.

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Deathstroke & Red Hood.

DS>Batman

RH>Robin

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Hard to say because of prep time. But I'll go with Slade's team 6 or 7 out of 10

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Team 1 cause they've got Batman

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Deathstroke & Red Hood.

DS>Batman

RH>Robin

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Team 2. More practical preppers with the limited time span.

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Team 2.

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#38  Edited By Bat_Girl_CC

@comicace3 said:

@dondave said:

@comicace3:With prep Red Hood could have killed Batman

Team 2 ftw

Question: Was batman aware of Redhood prepping and can he out prep Bats? Is he smarter than Red Robin when it comes to prep?

Well, Jason's prep it's a different Kind of prep...Batman and Red Robin would try something creative that doesn't hurt or at least, that doesn't kill anyone...Red Hood doesn't have that problem..."if morals are on" here, i would say Jason's Prep is better, because he could just plant bombs through all gotham before the fight, and just nuke the entire city..."if morals are off" both Batman and Tim Drake's prep are better, because they are better at prep than Jason is, and they are overall smarter, and without morals, they wouldn't hold back, so there's no reason to belive that they wouldn't out-smart Jason...still, Deathstroke's prep is also pretty good, and "if morals are on" here, Team 1 is in a huge disavantage here, because both will think twice before doing somthing to radical, while both DS and RH won't have that problem, and their prep, is also pretty good.

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I'm going to ignore the prep stipulation since I think it makes the battle far less interesting.

Overall it's very close but a more debatable pairing would have been Jason with Bruce and Tim with Slade. Yes I know Jason + Slade and Bruce + Tim kinda works out better considering morals, but it would have evened the match out more. As it stands, Deathstroke > Batman and Jason > Tim gives team 2 a flawless victory. There's really no way for team 1 to win.

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@ninjawarrior268: batman gets murdered by deathstroke! Team 2 stomps. With prep, this is even worse. Slade beat the JLA woth prep.

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Team 2 ftw.

Bat and DS prep is debatable, but with his nth metal armor DS is going to be very tough for bats. I think DS owns bat with prep and his stats 7/10.

Now, robin is a better prepper than red hood. But, he was already beaten by him in pre 52.

With a week, team 1 can build something to KO or incapacitate and that they may do, but team 2 can build something that actually kills.

Team 2 stomps this 7.5/10.

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My guess is that Red Hood will thrash red robin. Maybe the 2 (deathstroke and red hood will team up and beat up Bats

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Deathstroke and Red Hood

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team 1