Batman & Deathstroke (Titans) vs Green Arrow & Deathstroke (CW)

VS

Rounds

1. All are unarmed (No Suits)
2. Standard Melee Gear and Suits (Though assume that bladed weapons can penetrate any of the opponents suits)
3. Standard Gear and Suits

Rules

• CW Slade gets Mirakuru
• Morals Off
• No Prep
• Standard Win Conditions
• Takes place at an airport terminal.

Bump

Bruce needs more feats, team 2

Team 2

Arrow team for now. Could change.

Bump.

I thought the bruce thing was a "feat" no one took seriously?

If that's the case then team 2.

Bruce has no feats and either of the Arrow characters beat Slade.

@subline:

Does Batman get dreamland feats?? Because if so then Id go team Titan.

@death4bunnies: Yes he gets feats from the Trigon Dream and from Dick's Hallucination, basically everything we've seen from him.

Team Titans wins....

If any of you CW guys wanna debate me cool, but I suggest you look up dreamland Batman....Dude merked all the Villains at Arkham then like 20 cops then Starfire.......in a single 'knight'.

Bump

From what I've seen so far, CW Slade solos if the suits aren't a factor.

@rbt:

I believe the Op is giving Batman dreamland feats....Can you pull a scene from either of the CW characters thats comparable?

Seems great from a non enhanced street leveler...

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I also think Titans Slade beats CW Slade.....whats CW Slades best showing??

Titans Slade beat Donna Troy on screen and killed 4 full Amazons that were expecting him off screen.

@death4bunnies:

I believe the Op is giving Batman dreamland feats....Can you pull a scene from either of the CW characters thats comparable?

I mean, without non-feats like Trigon dream feat, a random LoA fodder would beat Bruce, so I assumed without him saying that Bruce gets those feats. Regardless, I don't see why it's impressive. It's a decent feat, being more skilled than Dick, but Dick doesn't begin to compare to either Slade or Oliver in skill, so I don't see what puts Bruce anywhere close to Oliver or Slade when it comes to skill.

Speed-wise, the only thing we have seen from Bruce is cutting down people in close proximity of him extremely quickly, something Slade outright outdid when he killed Blood's men and disappeared from right in front of Blood. And Oliver could match his speed in cqc. In fact, there is a scene of Slade and Oliver exchanging 7 hits in about a second and a half. Heck, Slade off Mirakuru cut down 5 men in a couple of seconds. Oliver turned around and shot down 4 guys before anyone of them could pull the trigger on an already drawn gun. Took down 6 men while surrounded in 4 seconds. These aren't even their best feats.

Reflexes aren't even a question. CW guys are comfortably ahead.

Then it comes to stats. Again, not very close. I'm just talking about Bruce and Oliver here. Nothing Bruce has done comes anywhere close to what Oliver has done. Whether we are talking about raw strength, striking or durability.

There is literally no area where Bruce is better than Oliver. Not a single one.

As for CW Slade vs Titans Slade, as I said, I've yet to see the last 3 episodes of S2. So, I would be better equipped to answer that after I've seen those episodes. However, in R2, there is nothing stopping CW Slade from cutting Titans Slade down because of far superior skill and speed(suits aren't a factor here). Unless, of course, Slade got some over the top skill feats in the last 3 episodes, in which case, I'd rather drop Slade v Slade debate and continue with Oliver v Bruce. As I said, I'd be better equipped to debate Slade v Slade after I've watched rest of the episodes and I don't really like spoilers.

@rbt:

IDK I know we have seen much from Bruce, but he fodderized like 20 cops while surrounded, and that was after he took a bunch out with bombs......I was just wondering if Ollie has took on a similar number of fodder like that...it seems extreme.

I dont follow Arrow, so if you can show a video or gif or either taking out that many armed fodder, that would be cool.....but thats kinda the only feat Batman has aside from scaling above Grayson.

As for scaling Batman to Grayson, well I think thats fair, he did train him and Robin has some excellent feats(here is a titans respect thread I working on, I think Robin has better speed and skill or at the very least comparable)....

After you watch the last three episodes look under the spoiler block and hit me back because I really want to show off some finale feats for both Slade and Grayson and by extension Bruce.

Finale spoilers below.

Nightwing is FTE to Slade in a kinda 'Ghosting' way....Batman should scale.....and Slade is enhanced enough that he can hear heart beats.......this is visually represented with intent confirmed.

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Team 2

Slade with Mirakuru = Team 2 - Slade without Mirakuru = Team 2