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#1 Posted by Night4345 (8450 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Nightwing and Batwoman (Both Pre-52 and New-52 feats with New-52 equipment)

Round 2: Punisher (Remington shotgun 20 shots, two handguns of his choose unlimited ammo but needs to reload, several knifes, and 2 grenades) and Moon Knight

Round 3: Daredevil and Elektra

Round 4: Deathstroke (promethium broadsword) and Ravager (Promethium swords)

Round 5: Captain America and Captain America (Bucky with shield, handgun, and knife)

Round 6: Deadpool (two Katanas and two handguns with 3 clips each) and Taskmaster (adamantium sword)

Round 7: Ultimate Captain America and Ultimate Hawkeye (standard arrows)

Rules:

  • · Pre-52 and standard gear unless specified
  • · Basic Knowledge of opponents
  • · Full healing after every round
  • · Two sets for morals on and off
  • · Victory by KO, Incap, or Death
  • · Fights begins 30 feet from each other on a Gotham city street (with cover)

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#2 Edited by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

I think the Cap team is too high, because they could beat them, but they likely stop at Slade and ravager. Otherwise they clear.

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#3 Posted by coolbeans101 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

stop at deathstroke... and cap is placed fine!

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#4 Posted by SuperTroll (113 posts) - - Show Bio

Cassandra Cain solos.

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#5 Posted by MonsterStomp (36709 posts) - - Show Bio

Deathstroke and Ravager should be harder than round 5.

Team stops at round 4 though.

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#6 Posted by reaverlation (25843 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals on:Stops at the Wilsons

Morals off:Could stop at 6 due to Tony having the adamantium sword.Without it, I see them clearing

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#7 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio

They clear.

The Round that gives them the biggest trouble is Round 4, but both Bats and Cain could beat Rose while the other one holds DS.

Jmarshmallow

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#8 Edited by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

Slade already beat Cass and batman, and ravager beat Cass before as well and could probably do batman as well, so that's why I say they stop at them. They should really be the last round, because the team clears everyone else

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#10 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio
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#12 Posted by dagmar_merrill (12701 posts) - - Show Bio

7.

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#13 Posted by MonsterStomp (36709 posts) - - Show Bio

Already answered.

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#14 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: They fought? I don't even remember that! Could I see some scans, if you don't mind?

Jmarshmallow

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#15 Posted by GraniteSoldier (12746 posts) - - Show Bio

Could stop at 4 or 5, I personally find Cassie overrated. Should stop at 6. I don't see them beating a non jobbing Taskmaster.

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#16 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/53235/1078833-13.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/5/53235/1078801-tt19.jpg

Those two URLs. It was a short fight but ravager won

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#17 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Nobody won that fight....

Jmarshmallow

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#18 Edited by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: ravager kicked her ten feet away, then had her sword at her throat. She easily could have killed her. She clearly won. Ravager is enhanced just like her father and Slade beat Cass as well, so there's no reason she shouldn't too.

And she did in those scans

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#19 Posted by BoringPerson (3744 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at round 1. Batwoman's ridiculous sentient alienbatarang solos.

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#20 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Ravager kicked her, big whoop. And Batgirl was holding the sword, not Rose.

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#21 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (17143 posts) - - Show Bio

Clear. 1-3 is a wash in their favor due to simply being better than the others. The Wilsons will not be easy but Bruce has been able to hold his own against Slade and Cass has even beaten Rose before, I think that Cass can beat Rose and then help Bruce take Slade. I take Bruce and Cass over Steve and Bucky due to gadgets, overall it's the same tactic as round 4. Bat team wins due to having more skilled opponents on their team in comparison not to mention gadgets that can take them out, the real problem is Tony and his sword but if they can incapacitate Wade first then they can take him as well. Cass can beat Clint although not easily but I don't think Bruce can handle Cap, most of these battles will consist of Cass taking out who she's fighting first to help Bruce if he's struggling which will be how they win the final round.

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#22 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: the sharp curved part of the sword was in the direction of batgirls neck, ravager had the sword in her hand and batgirl was trying to not get cut. The fact that ravager also threatens to cut her throat supports the fact that she still had the sword in her hand. Also, if you try to fight someone and end up on your back with a sword at your throat I'd say you lost.

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#23 Posted by senglord (2773 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Cassandra stabbed her through the throat with Rose's TWO swords.

rose is not the threat she is to superhumsns in New 52.

DS is so irregular in his level in his solo series that pis off, he could lose to Batman's gear.

The team has a 4/10 chance to clear without morals. They lose to Deadpool if they go in with morals.

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#24 Posted by Night4345 (8450 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Cass was drugged by Deathstroke during that fight.

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#25 Posted by patrat18 (11736 posts) - - Show Bio

Clears.

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#26 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio
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#27 Posted by Lvenger (36335 posts) - - Show Bio

Most likely stop at either Round 4 due to Deathstroke's formidable combat prowess or Round 6 since Deadpool is near impossible to keep down and Taskmaster has the potential to copy Batman or Cass' style and use it against them. Not to mention he has the skill to fight evenly with them already.

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#28 Posted by DigitalShooter9 (3112 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals on:Stops at the Wilsons

Morals off:Could stop at 6 due to Tony having the adamantium sword.Without it, I see them clearing

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#29 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (9130 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 4

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#30 Posted by Awesomedude (2171 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 4.

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#31 Edited by Bat_Girl_CC (6161 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

Slade already beat Cass and batman, and ravager beat Cass before as well and could probably do batman as well, so that's why I say they stop at them. They should really be the last round, because the team clears everyone else

?...Where are you getting your info from?...Slade has 2 stallemates against Cass, and those fights ended in stallemate, mainly because Deathstroke refused to accept defeat, if memory serves me, in the first fight they had, D.S was losing, he even used guns, tried to shot her, Cassie dodged the gun-fire effortlessy, and D.S had to blow up the building to avoid being defeated!...and in their second confrontation, the fight was more even, and only ended when Slade runned away...i guess we can say that D.S beat her once, but Cassie had previously been drugged by Slade, so, likely she wasn't at 100% in that fight...then again, that wasn't much of fight, anyway...

And Rose never defeated Cassie, Cassie clearly beat her fair and square, when they first fought, and they had a rematch, that ended in stallemate, because thei're fight was interrupted.

As for Batman, yeah Slade defeated him 2 or 3 times already, but Batman beat him once too, even tho, Slade wasn't there to fight Batman, and he could have killed Batman twice, during that issue, if he wanted to.

Now, let's put this battle in perspective:

Cassie goes for Deathstroke, and Batman goes for Ravager...either fight, would be really even, and it could go either way...morals "on" the bat-team would lose...but morals "off" i can see the bat-team taking the majority.

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#32 Posted by Night4345 (8450 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: It was the reason she became a villain and joined Deathstroke's Titans East.

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#33 Edited by Bat_Girl_CC (6161 posts) - - Show Bio

They either stop at 4 or at 6...otherwise, they clear.

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#34 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@bat_girl_cc: Deathstroke was able to overcome her body reading abilities, and ravager beat her when she had her on her back with the sword at her throat.

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#35 Edited by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: This is from yesterday but whether you accept that ravaged beat her or not, you said that bats or Cass could take her which isn't true

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#36 Edited by Bat_Girl_CC (6161 posts) - - Show Bio

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@bat_girl_cc: Deathstroke was able to overcome her body reading abilities, and ravager beat her when she had her on her back with the sword at her throat.

Deathstroke didn't overcome her Body Reading, it was more like Cassie couldn't Body Read him properly...Deathstroke has total control over his body, and Cassie has trouble Body Reading him, but i guess she could still do it to a limited extent...since she was still able to have the Upper-Hand during their confrontations.

Actually, Deathstroke himself stated that he can't beat Cassandra Cain in a H2H fight:

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Just read what Deathstroke says in the scan above.

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#37 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@bat_girl_cc: Yeah that's what I meant, and he just gave two ways he could defeat her lol

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#38 Posted by nova_prime76 (164 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at Round 4.

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#39 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13840 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Cass wasn't in the right state of mind during that fight.

IIRC, Slade drugged her.

Not to mention the fact that DS straight up admitted he couldn't beat Cass, and DS is > Rose.

In a straight up fight, Cass would win.

Jmarshmallow

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#41 Posted by Bat_Girl_CC (6161 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324:

How do you know that Batman can't beat Ravager?...i mean, sure Batman would have hell doing it...but how can you say that he can't do it for sure, since they never fought?...personaly, i think it would be really even...it could go either way.

And yes, Cassie can take her, and in fact, she already has:

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The scans above are from Cassie and Ravager's first fight, i missed some scans, but its clear that Cassie won that battle.

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#42 Posted by Bat_Girl_CC (6161 posts) - - Show Bio

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@bat_girl_cc: Yeah that's what I meant, and he just gave two ways he could defeat her lol

Doesn't matter, this is a fight here, isn't?...he can't be at a distance, and shoot her with a sniper...

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#43 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@jmarshmallow: When did he drug her? And he himself gave ways he could beat her. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to, Shiva could beat her and Slade > Shiva. He was able to get around her major advantage of body reading, and without that it's much easier to beat her

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#44 Posted by Night4345 (8450 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Deathstroke drugged her during One Year Later. Both the ways Slade gave won't work. He has no way to beat her from the distance and I doubt he can get in her head again especially with Batman here. Shiva won once when she wanted to die but Cass has beaten her twice. She did just fine against both of them even when Ravager had her precog and the second Rose's attention slipped Cass stabbed her with her own sword.

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#45 Posted by jayc1324 (26421 posts) - - Show Bio

@night4345: both of those says definitely would work... Why else would slade say them? He's not stupid. And he was able to get by her body reading which is her only real advantage.

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#46 Posted by Night4345 (8450 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: Slade doesn't have a ranged weapon and they're 30 feet apart... It'll be hard to manipulate her with Batman here and her already knowing what he'll try. She's avoided all of his attacks in their first fight (Slade was holding back to allow Ravager to fight her) and in their second he admits he can't straight up beat her and blows up the building to escape.

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#47 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (9006 posts) - - Show Bio

Stop at 4

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#48 Posted by Sy8000 (35096 posts) - - Show Bio

Could clear.

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#49 Posted by justicethorpsylocke (3072 posts) - - Show Bio

*braces self for rage*

in think they have a 50 percent chance of stoping at 2.......

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#50 Posted by serrure (5896 posts) - - Show Bio

stops at 4, 5, 6, and 7