Bastila Shan and Shaak Ti Vs Mara Jade and General Grievous

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Team two has a pretty solid advantage in sabers, while Shaak likely has the most power here. Both bastila and Mara bring some interesting force powers to the table.

It could go either way. It depends on if bastila and Shaak can abuse the force Grievous enough to take him out quickly before he destroys then in a duel. I don't think they can that often team 2 7/10

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Team 2 wins

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Grievous solos

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Grievous solos with ease. His saberoffense is too much to handle for either of them.

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Team 2 wins mid diff.

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Grievous solos whilst laughing, then kills/slaughters Mara Jade just for being there.

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Team 2.

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mara or grievous waves their hands and team 1 dies

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Team 2 spite stomps... either solo

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Grievous can borderline solo. Prime Mara Jade stomps either one of them badly

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Bastilla is around equal to Mara(imo), both have very impressive force abilities.

Ti takes out greivous pretty easily with the force and then helps Bastilla take out Mara.

team 1 wins with moderate to low difficulty.

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@senatesheev: Ti takes out greivous pretty easily with the force

She's never been able to do that before, and Legends Grievous is far better at countering the Force than his jobbing Canon counterpart.

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@breakofdawn: She has never fought grievous in a fair fight. In TFU her force powers are absolutely stunning. She can absolutely crush grievous.

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@senatesheev: And how is she going to manage that before he kills her in sabers? Grievous isn't a stranger to Force users in Legends, and has fought the likes of ROTS Mace Windu to a near-standstill. He's also overwhelmed Utapau!Kenobi in striking speed, who himself is > Ti. Grievous will close the gap in seconds and Ti isn't powerful, nor skilled enough, to stop him from killing her.

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LMFAOOOO no he didn't the fight lasted like 5 seconds until windu caught him off balance. in the rots novelisation yoda says shaak ti's dueling skills are nearly equal to dooku. It doesn't matter if he closes the gap or not, she ragdolls him in sabers and force.

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@senatesheev:Please tag me, next time.

LMFAOOOO no he didn't the fight lasted like 5 seconds until windu caught him off balance.

It wasn't "like 5 seconds", and short as it was, in that time Grievous nearly replicated Vaapad and sliced Mace's head off, with Mace claiming that his speed was "astonishing" - from someone who could hit 6 times in an eyeblink whilst massively hindered - and that he produced a very accurate replication of the form.

The loss of his confederates was noted by whatever computers were slaved to Grievous's organic brain, but the loss neither distracted nor slowed him. His sole setting was _attack._ Successful at analyzing Mace's lightsaber style, those same computers suggested that Grievous alter his stance and posture, along with the angle of his parries, ripostes, and thrusts. The result wasn't Vaapad, but it was close enough, and Mace wasn't interested in prolonging the contest any longer than necessary.

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Slipping into the gap made by Mace's saber, Grievous's left talon lost magnetic purchase on the roof, and thegeneral faltered. Mace came out of his crouch prepared to drive his sword into Grievous's guts, but some last-instant firing of the general's cyber synapses compelled the cyborg's torso through a swift half twist that would have sent Mace's head hurtling into the canyon had the maneuver prevailed.

This is while Grievous was significantly hindered via not being able to move in place, whereas Mace was not:

Just as the Force was keeping Mace from being blown from the mag-lev's roof, magnetism of some sort was keeping the general fastened in place. For the cyborg, though, the coherence hindered as much as it helped, whereas Mace never remained in one place for very long. Again and again the three blades joined, insnarling attacks and parries.

in the rots novelisation yoda says shaak ti's dueling skills are nearly equal to dooku.

Yoda has never said that. The quote you're thinking of is referring to styles, which - given that Ti and Dooku are both Makashi practitioners - isn't saying they're ~ each other:

There is an understated elegance in Obi-Wan Kenobi's lightsaber technique, one that is quite unlike the feel one might get from the other great swordsbeings of the Jedi Order. He lacks entirely the flash, the pure bold elan of an Anakin Skywalker; there is no-where in him the penumbral ferocity of a Mace Windu or a Depa Billaba nor the stylish grace of a Shaak Ti or a Dooku, and he is nothing resembling the whirlwind of destruction that Yoda can become

It doesn't matter if he closes the gap or not, she ragdolls him in sabers and force.

Which you've yet to prove. Neither Ventress, nor Adi, nor even Mace were able to do this on even ground to prime Grievous. Ti was roughly equal to Felucia!Galen, who pales in comparison to Ventress and Mace in swordsmanship:

In desperation, he summoned a bolt of Sith lightning and sent it down, into the flesh of the sarlacc. The beast roared and shook, giving him the opening he needed. Shaak Ti’s right foot slipped, forcing her to flip elegantly out of reach of his blade. He leapt after her, swinging as he came. The fight progressed around the sarlacc’s center rings, blow and counterblow accompanied by the roaring of the beast. The apprentice cut off teeth and threw the fragments at his adversary’s head. In return she took tighter control of the beast’s distributed intelligence and sent its food-seeking tentacles flailing for him. He repulsed them and fought on.

Down they drove each other, closer and closer to the very lip of the creature’s enormous mouth. The air was foul down there, heavy with digestive by-products and the stink of rotting meat. Ghastly exhalations rolled over them as the sarlacc roared on. The apprentice was running out of teeth to sever, so he resorted more and more frequently to Sith lightning and random slashes of his lightsaber to keep it twitching underfoot. Thick ichor leaking out of the wounds made the footing even more treacherous.

“You can’t keep this up forever,” he taunted Shaak Ti as they dueled.

“Neither can you,” she said. “You are wasting your strength too quickly.”

“The dark side is inexhaustible.”

“Your strength is prodigious,” she admitted, “but that is your doing. Light, dark—” She paused to aim a blow at his head that he barely deflected. “They are just directions. Do not be fooled that you stand on anything other than your own two feet.”

He slashed at her own feet as they spun by overhead and sent one of her ribbons twirling down into the sarlacc’s gaping mouth. “Spare me the philosophy lesson, Jedi,” he snarled. “I’m only here for your blood.”

“And you may yet have it, or I yours.”

On her last three words, she struck three blows that each partially found their mark. The first burned a sizzling line down the apprentice’s left shoulder. The second scored diagonally across his chest. The third would have skewered his right eye had he not held her back at the last minute with a desperate telekinetic block that stopped her lightsaber barely a millimeter from his skin. He could feel his eyelashes and eyebrows burning. The right side of his sight was entirely blue. She gasped and staggered backward. Her lightsaber and her gaze dropped. A full half meter of red blade emerged from her stomach, then the rest came free with a hiss.

He backed away, shocked by how close he had come to death and how lucky he had been to defeat her. He had raised his lightsaber by reflex. She had, in the desperation of her final assault, practically thrown herself on the blade. Perhaps she had meant for the two of them to defeat each other at the same time.

And who is vastly sub-Vader in all categories, including sabers. She'll have a hard enough time deflecting his attacks, let alone exploiting her Force advantage. Given Grievous' sheer skill and speed advantage (whereby he can overwhelm even the master of Soresu, who Mace believed stood a better chance at defeating Grievous than himself), she's not holding him off for long, nor has she ever faced anyone with Grievous' level of skill, ferocity and unpredictability at her peak to prove that she would perform much better.

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@breakofdawn: Mb thought i was replying, nice job figuring out i was replying to you

Galen is far superior to ventress and can certainly put a fight against mace. You should read the TFU comic. He is fairly depicted and it's easier to visualize than a book. Obiwan also says on multiple occasions that shaak ti is superior to himself.

Yes, clone wars shaak ti gets beaten by grievous, but this is TFU. She nearly killed galen and demonstrated her mastery over him in both sabers and force. She only got tired at the end and was killed because of a lucky cheapshot.

And no, grievous hasn't demonstrated he can counter force abilities. He has done this:

1. Dodges a force push from an exhausted ki-adi mundi(cw2003)

2. Dodges a force push from roron corobb, an inexperienced jedi knight(cw2005)

3. shortly after that is taken out by a force push from SHAAK TI, after which he takes several moments to recover(cw2005)

4. survives a force bellow from roron corobb due to his claws(cw2005)

5. gets force crushed by mace windu, who sprinted a long distance to catch up with him(cw2005)

6. is unable to dodge a STAP being hurled at him with the force, has to be recovered by magnaguards(republic omnibus)

7. gets hurled into a window by an injured eeth koth(sorry if clone wars doesn't count)(grievous intrigue)

8. hurled back by a force push from obi-wan kenobi(rots)

It's pretty clear grievous can handle weak force abilities, but once a skilled master steps in he has little defence against them.

Also, mace and grievous weren't on even ground, they were on a high speed maglev, in which grievous has an advantage because of his magnetized feat. Shaak Ti hurling a kinetite is at least as effective as windu hurling a STAP, not to mention her other incredible force powers

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Galen is far superior to ventress and can certainly put a fight against mace.

Endgame Galen - the one who fought and defeated Vader - is not Felucia!Galen, who is entire orders of magnitude below his endgame self.

You should read the TFU comic. He is fairly depicted and it's easier to visualize than a book.

I've read every media of TFU. None of them prove he's >> Ventress or able to put up a fight against Mace as of Felucia.

Obiwan also says on multiple occasions that shaak ti is superior to himself.

Citations needed. Regardless, flawed character perspectives - Obi-Wan also believes himself vastly inferior to the B-Team in sabers, despite only one of them having any feats approaching even his late-TCW self - are not indicative of factual intent.

Yes, clone wars shaak ti gets beaten by grievous, but this is TFU. She nearly killed galen and demonstrated her mastery over him in both sabers and force. She only got tired at the end and was killed because of a lucky cheapshot.

First, there's a direct correlation between Force power and Force reserves. Second, she never "demonstrated her mastery over him". The passage I've linked depicts them as evenly matched. Even in the comic (which contradicts other sources), she has to exploit her surroundings to get an edge whereas he's able to release enough power to badly wound her after tiring her just with his strength. At best, she's slightly above him. Third, it wasn't a "cheapshot". She threw herself at him and he responded.

And no, grievous hasn't demonstrated he can counter force abilities. He has done this:

1. Dodges a force push from an exhausted ki-adi mundi(cw2003)

Who even in this state was exceptionally powerful and in the top 3 of the Jedi Council, yet failed to do anything with the Force.

2. Dodges a force push from roron corobb, an inexperienced jedi knight(cw2005)

Prove he was "inexperienced", please. And he was a Jedi Master, not a Jedi Knight, who trained for years with Yarael Poof (another extremely powerful Jedi Council member).

3. shortly after that is taken out by a force push from SHAAK TI, after which he takes several moments to recover(cw2005)

You're completely misrepresenting that. She predicted where he'd land and blew up the wall as he did so. It still took her plus two other Jedi Masters just to briefly stun him with a lucky, circumstantial attack.

4. survives a force bellow from roron corobb due to his claws(cw2005)

...And? He still tanked it. Pretty easily, actually.

5. gets force crushed by mace windu, who sprinted a long distance to catch up with him(cw2005)

Mace Windu >>> Shaak Ti. What he can do is not representative of what she can do.

6. is unable to dodge a STAP being hurled at him with the force, has to be recovered by magnaguards(republic omnibus)

Again; misrepresenting.

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Mace had to surprise him with it whilst he was gloating and throw it with enough speed before Grievous could react.

7. gets hurled into a window by an injured eeth koth(sorry if clone wars doesn't count)(grievous intrigue)

Which he then shrugged off seconds later.

8. hurled back by a force push from obi-wan kenobi(rots)

Which did absolutely nothing, and was while Grievous couldn't manoeuvre.

It's pretty clear grievous can handle weak force abilities, but once a skilled master steps in he has little defence against them.

This is false. You've cherry picked sources that don't support your case. Only high tier Jedi have dispatched Grievous with the Force - nearly every time with the benefit of a distance gap - and Shaak Ti is not one of those.

Also, mace and grievous weren't on even ground, they were on a high speed maglev, in which grievous has an advantage because of his magnetized feat.

Outright false:

Just as the Force was keeping Mace from being blown from the mag-lev's roof, magnetism of some sort was keeping the general fastened in place. For the cyborg, though, the coherence hindered as much as it helped, whereas Mace never remained in one place for very long.

Grievous is explicitly at a disadvantage.

Shaak Ti hurling a kinetite is at least as effective as windu hurling a STAP,

Not feats that can be compared, nor is the second one a fair comparison, given the context of Grievous having just killed Adi and gloating before being surprised by it.

not to mention her other incredible force powers

None of which will matter. The moment the General closes the gap, Shaak isn't gaining the distance nor time to concentrate in order to channel the Force against him - there's a reason why virtually every example of Grievous being dispatched with the Force is when there's a distance between the fighers - whilst simultaneously holding off attacks that Mace - who at this time was virtually equal with Yoda in sabers - and Obi-Wan - the greatest recorded Soresu master - struggled with.

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@senatesheev said:

@breakofdawn:

Yes, clone wars shaak ti gets beaten by grievous, but this is TFU. She nearly killed galen and demonstrated her mastery over him in both sabers and force. She only got tired at the end and was killed because of a lucky cheapshot.

Well, not quite:

Galen Marek vs Shaak Ti

Context and Circumstances

1. The planet where Galen and Shaak's fight takes place is stated by Galen himself to be a world that has been twisted out of balance into a Lightside nexus.

"She had taken a world enjoying the normal flows between the light and the dark sides of the Force and twisted it out of balance. There was still darkness on Felucia, but it was stifled, frustrated, weakened. He strained to awaken it." - The Force Unleashed.

1A. As can be seen from the quote above, Galen strained to utilize the Darkside on the planet as it was "stifled" and "weakened" there meaning he would have been actively hindered in his fight against Shaak.

"She had taken a world enjoying the normal flows between the light and the dark sides of the Force and twisted it out of balance. There was still darkness on Felucia, but it was stifled, frustrated, weakened. He strained to awaken it." - The Force Unleashed.

1B. Assuming Felucia functions like every other Lightside nexus in Star Wars, Shaak would have been amped beyond her normal capabilities in her fight against Galen.

"As the Off Chance carried them to the home of the Singing Mountain Clan, they passed over shining oceans, lush forests, vast deserts, rolling hills and wide fertile plains. Tenel Ka felt strength and energy flow through her, as if they very atmosphere of the planet had the power to recharge her." - Star Wars: Young Jedi Knights: Shadow Academy.

2. I've seen some people attempt to claim that the comic contradicts the novel in this regard throwing the issue into doubt. This is incorrect for two reasons.

2A. The first reason is that the presumption that there is a contradiction is in itself faulty. People point to the following scan as proof of this claim.

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What most aren't aware of is that these yellow text bubbles aren't third person narration. They're commentaries made by Proxy as he retells the story of TFU.

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There is no actual contradiction within continuity occurring. It is simply the word of a non Force-sensitive droid conflicting with that of a Force sensitive who was able to actively sense the Force alignment of the planet.

2B. The second is that the TFU novelization was stated to be "the true story" of Starkiller in the same section that the game and comic are mentioned by Haden Blackman, the creative director for TFU and its various adaptions, meaning the events in the novel would logically take precedent if there were a contradiction.

http://web.archive.org/web/20100414014010/http://starwars.com/vault/books/news20080819.html

3. Another factor that is often overlooked is that Galen had fought through an army of Force user's prior to facing off with Ti. I've seen people try to downplay this feat by suggesting that the Felucians wouldn't have taxed Galen's reserves considerably. Considering the text goes out of its way to state that Galen was having trouble getting to Ti in the first place, that the the Felucians were so alive with the Force that they were "dangerous" to him and that Galen is actively trying to dispatch them without fuss in order to conserve energy runs counter to this.

"He dispatched them calmly and without fuss, saving his energy for the real enemy waiting for him. Getting to her, however, was proving to be something of a problem. Although he had sensed her clearly from orbit as a deformation in the Force, much like a body of mass deformed the fabric of space-time, he hadn't anticipated the dense flows he would encounter on the surface. The entire jungle was alive with tin Force, from the tiniest spore to the mightiest rancor, and the Felucians themselves were alive with it, too-so alive, in fact, that they tapped into the Force as naturally as humans breathed an oxygen-rich atmosphere. That made them dangerous to him, the Sith apprentice who had come to crush the regime Shaak Ti had nurtured on Felucia." - The Force Unleashed.

To help the point sink in, I'll be providing some accolades and examples of their power below.

3A. Can manipulate light around themselves in order to blend in with their surroundings.

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3B. Can enhance the durability of their bone blades to the point that they are lightsaber resistant.

"The bone swords were resistant to his lightsaber, but his skill with the Force far exceeded theirs." - The Force Unleashed.

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Just to remind everybody of the power that a lightsabers possesses.

A lightsaber can cut through the shielded hull of a CIS Dreadnought.

A lightsaber's heat and energy output is far greater than that of a small nuclear blast.

A lightsaber is as hot as the core of a star.

A lightsaber is able to cut through a material so dense that it warps the fabric of space and time.

3C. Can heal a being from debilitating injuries within a few minutes to the point that can fight as if they had never been injured in the first place.

"The warrior dropped dead to the ground but two more leapt out of the bushes behind him, waving their bone swords and howling in their strange, guttural language. He recognized the largest as one he had injured previously, but he moved now with perfect grace and aggression; the shaman he had spared several minutes earlier must have doubled back and healed the warrior's injuries. He vowed not to make the same mistake again." - The Force Unleashed.

Note: This is notable as there are many fully trained Jedi healers who have struggled to heal lesser wounds.

3D. Capable of utilizing basic telekinesis and energy attacks.

"The apprentice ducked another bolt of Force energy hurled by the Felucian warrior to his right and sent a jagged line of Sith lightning crackling across the distance between them." - The Force Unleashed.

"Dodging their clumsy telekinesis and unwieldy blows, he dispatched them calmly and without fuss, saving his energy for the real enemy waiting for him." - The Force Unleashed.

3E. Felucian shamans are even more powerful than their non-shaman counterparts and are considered among the most powerful natural Force user's in the galaxy.

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4. Lastly, I thought I'd address a pretty common misconception. The idea that Shaak Ti unbalanced the Force solely through her own personal power. This is simply not true and is something outright contradicted by the TFU campaign guide.

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4A. It goes on to indicate that the reason Felucia has shifted so drastically to the Darkside since Shaak Ti's death is a result of Maris Brood's fall to the Darkside and her subsequent influence over the Felucian shamans.

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4B. One might wonder why Galen's own presence didn't offset Shaak's own and turn Felucia into a neutral or even Darkside nexus especially if he was more powerful than her. The reason for this is as follows:

Firstly, as we've established, it's not about the Force user themselves, but about how their presence affects the native Felucians that affects the planets alignment. While Galen's arrival on the planet would have undoubtedly had an effect on the native Felucians, Shaak had already been there for years teaching them about the Lightside. Prior to her arrival, they were already wary enough of Felucia potentially turning into a Darkside nexus that they sacrificed those who fell to the Darkside to the Ancient Abyss. Shaak Ti's arrival and teachings would have only strengthened this resolve. That being the case, Galen's presence is unlikely to cause an immediate shift in the Felucians alignment, especially given he was on the planet for less than a day.

Breakdown of Their Fight

Now, on to the actual fight. As I've established above, Galen enters this fight in a hindered and fatigued state whilst Shaak would logically be receiving an amp. She would also reasonably have possessed an environmental advantage over Galen insofar as being familiar with the location that they were fighting in whereas Galen was not. There are two different depictions of this fight; the novel and the comic. While I've already established that the novel's version of events takes precedence over any of the other versions, I'll break down the fights from both sources just to be thorough.

Novel Version

1. In the novel's version of the fight, Shaak uses her higher starting position to generate greater force behind her initial strike which initially puts Galen off balance.

She smiled in mockery. "Are you prepared to meet your fate?" Then her lightsaber was lit and she was spinning through the air toward him, striking downward as she fell. The apprentice simultaneously backflipped and blocked her opening blow. The force of it surprised him, and the recoil threw him backward. His hood caught on one of the sarlacc's teeth, and he tore it impatiently away before the snag could interfere with his defense. Shaak Ti's lightsaber was a jagged blue blur between them. He blocked her as best he could until he had his balance again." - The Force Unleashed.

2. In an attempt to put some distance between himself and Shaak so that he can regain his balance, Galen jumps down but because he doesn't want to allow her to possess a height advantage he immediately tries to ascend to again. Shaak Ti is right there with him though and, leveraging her height advantage, is able to prevent him from getting back to even ground through a series of blows he struggles to block while simultaneously attempting to get to higher ground.

"Then he jumped. Over her he spun and fell down two layers of teeth toward the mouth of the sarlacc. From there he jumped up again, angling away from her to avoid giving the Jedi the advantage of height, but she was there ahead of him, driving him back down with a series of blows so rapid he barely caught them all." - The Force Unleashed.

3. Using a bolt of lightning, Galen is able to cause the sarlaac to shake the ground and put himself and Shaak back on even footing.

"He summoned a bolt of Sith lightning and sent it down, into the flesh of the sarlacc. The beast roared and shook, giving him the opening he needed. Shaak Ti's right foot slipped, forcing her to flip elegantly out of reach of his blade. He leapt after her, swinging as he came." - The Force Unleashed.

4. After Galen was able to nullify Shaak's initial advantage, they fight evenly.

"The fight progressed around the sarlacc's center rings, blow and counterblow accompanied by the roaring of the beast. The apprentice cut off teeth and threw the fragments at his adversary's head. In return she took tighter control of the beast's distributed intelligence and sent its food-seeking tentacles flailing for him. He repulsed them and fought on. Down they drove each other, closer and closer to the very lip of the creature's enormous mouth. The air was foul down there, heavy with digestive by-products and the stink of rotting meat. Ghastly exhalations rolled over them as the sarlacc roared on. The apprentice was running out of teeth to sever, so he resorted more and more frequently to Sith lightning and random slashes of his lightsaber to keep it twitching underfoot. Thick ichor leaking out of the wounds made the footing even more treacherous." - The Force Unleashed.

5. They go on to have a brief conversation whilst fighting wherein Galen suggests Shaak is tiring. After seeming to admit that she is, Shaak reflects his own accusation back at him but he denies it citing the Darkside's inexhaustible strength. Shaak seemingly admits that his denial holds merit but only as a result of his personal power and not his allegiance to one side of the Force or the other.

"You can't keep this up forever," he taunted Shaak Ti as they dueled."Neither can you," she said. "You are wasting your strength too quickly.""The dark side is inexhaustible.""Your strength is prodigious," she admitted, "but that is your doing. Light, dark..." She paused to aim a blow at his head that he barely deflected. "They are just directions. Do not be fooled that you stand on anything other than your own two feet."He slashed at her own feet as they spun by overhead and sent one of her ribbons twirling down into the sarlacc's gaping mouth. "Spare me the philosophy lesson, Jedi," he snarled. "I'm only here for your blood.""And you may yet have it, or I yours." - The Force Unleashed.

6. The last bit of the fight is Shaak essentially sacrificing her own life in an attempt to catch Galen off guard and end his life at the cost of her own. This makes sense when you consider she admitted to Galen that her own energy was flagging whilst his were not and that she wanted to ensure she protected her apprentice and the regime she'd fostered on Felucia. Unfortunately for her, she is not fast enough to land a fatal blow before Galen manages to raise a telekinetic shield to block one of her strikes and reflexively raise his own blade to impale her.

"On her last three words, she struck three blows that each partially found their mark. The first burned a sizzling line down the apprentice's left shoulder. The second scored diagonally across his chest. The third would have skewered his right eye had he not held her back at the last minute with a desperate telekinetic block that stopped her lightsaber barely a millimeter from his skin. He could feel his eyelashes and eyebrows burning. The right side of his sight was entirely blue. She gasped and staggered backward. Her lightsaber and her gaze dropped. A full half meter of red blade emerged from her stomach, then the rest came free with a hiss. He backed away, shocked by how close he had come to death and how lucky he had been to defeat her. He had raised his lightsaber by reflex. She had, in the desperation of her final assault, practically thrown herself on the blade. Perhaps she had meant for the two of them to defeat each other at the same time." - The Force Unleashed.

Comic Version

The comic version of the fight gives an even less favorable depiction for Shaak.

1. In it, we have Shaak landing a Force push on Galen as he's attempting to jump over a pit which causes him to land amongst the sarlaac teeth. In the subsequent panel we see the edges of one of the sarlaac's teeth broken off and Galen bleeding from the head.

2. This gives Shaak Ti the time she needs to charge an energy attack for several seconds and unleash it on Galen. We know that it was several seconds because she was charging up her attack while speaking.

Transcript of said dialogue: "I knew him when he was just a frightened boy. Not unlike you."

3. The charged attack from Ti knocks him back but, apart from that, has no discernible affect on him.

4. Using her influence over the environment, Ti commands the sarlaac to wrap Marek up in its tentacles. As Shaak senses the life fading from Galen Marek he unleashes a blast in all directions which destroys the sarlaac tentacles holding him and fatally injuries Ti. While Ti clearly underestimated him, the comic makes it clear that she had time to sense and react to Galen's repulse as she cries out before turning around with her hands raised in front of her. While I would agree that whatever defensive barrier she was able to throw up in that time would not have been representative of her full power, it remains that she was fatally injured by an undirected blast of power from Galen that wasn't even aimed at her. This simply proves the vast disparity in power that exists between Shaak and Galen even at this point in the TFU storyline.

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#26 killbilly  Moderator

@breakofdawn: Tbf, I don't know how TFU Shaak vs Grievous would go myself. I just don't want people saying Shaak > Grievous on the basis of superiority to Felucia Galen since that's a false premise.