Based on these two pages, who can defeat Oblivion (True Form)?

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Pre-retcon Beyonder.

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Two pages when a character doesn't destroy anything or do anything relevant... hmmm

99% of fiction verse

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Lord English, Scarlet King etc

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Pre-retcon Beyonder.

Bugs Bunny.

My Dad when he's Belt-amped.

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The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

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Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

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TOAA slam Oblivion and entire Marvel

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#9  Edited By thenamelessone  Moderator

All he really says is that he is just void , anyone behind the laws of conventional universe and conventional existence should have no trouble dealing with him as he is outside their sphere of influence.

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#10  Edited By BroGokudestroys
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All he really says is that he is just void , anyone behind the laws of conventional universe and conventional existence should have no trouble dealing with him as he is outside their sphere of influence.

He literally relies on scaling above chaos king. He’s a normal multiversal who has lost to infinity and such. “true form” this and “true form” that when they don’t even exist, it’s an nlf to say a char can do this and that with no actually proof. Oblivion killing readers isn’t even a feat you can take seriously. Saying prb is like the writers isn’t a good statement. Same for featherine and other. Saying scp 3812 transcends things is an nlf, there is no proof the eng version specifically transcends cosmology above it, and characters can have similiar hax to him or superior. My fav nlf’s are the “no matter what, char x will defeat them” Jesmon GX(digimon) for example, but he did defeat an infinite Multiversal who could destroy creation by existing.

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The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

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Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

Phoenix was before oblivion also. Lol.

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@pyrofn said:

The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

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Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

Phoenix was before oblivion also. Lol.

And now, after that Defenders: Beyond 3 Preview, it seems confirmed that the Oblivion is the other half of the coin like Dearth is.

Thinking about making a post on it in general because of the interesting stuff the preview brings out.

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#14  Edited By BroGokudestroys
@pyrofn said:
@brogokudestroys said:
@pyrofn said:

The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

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Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

Phoenix was before oblivion also. Lol.

And now, after that Defenders: Beyond 3 Preview, it seems confirmed that the Oblivion is the other half of the coin like Dearth is.

Thinking about making a post on it in general because of the interesting stuff the preview brings out.

That’d be pretty cool.

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#15  Edited By ProfessorRespect

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

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2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

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@pyrofn said:
@brogokudestroys said:
@pyrofn said:

The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

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Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

Phoenix was before oblivion also. Lol.

And now, after that Defenders: Beyond 3 Preview, it seems confirmed that the Oblivion is the other half of the coin like Dearth is.

Thinking about making a post on it in general because of the interesting stuff the preview brings out.

That’d be pretty cool.

Oblivion is older than all of Marvel except TOAA.

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#18  Edited By OmniSage
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

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Nobody except probably the Overvoid from Dc and TOAA from Marvel.

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@omnisage said:
@brogokudestroys said:
@pyrofn said:
@brogokudestroys said:
@pyrofn said:

The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

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Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

Phoenix was before oblivion also. Lol.

And now, after that Defenders: Beyond 3 Preview, it seems confirmed that the Oblivion is the other half of the coin like Dearth is.

Thinking about making a post on it in general because of the interesting stuff the preview brings out.

That’d be pretty cool.

Oblivion is older than all of Marvel except TOAA.

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Nobody except probably the Overvoid from Dc and TOAA from Marvel.

You trolling right?

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Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Hyperbole gets the most hype of anything in fiction I find. Hyperbole is just overexaggerated statements.

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#23  Edited By TakenStew22
@omnisage said:
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

What does it matter if he was an "aspect" or not? Literally every single relevant Marvel abstract has an M-body of some sort and people act as if that means they're weaker when that really never seems the case, just them taking a physical form that one can understand. They're still projecting their power through their M-bodies. If these statements are all he has then he needs way more lol. I'll say it once again, breaking the 4th wall and threatening the reader is not impressive unless you got shit to back it up.

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@omnisage said:
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

What does it matter if he was an "aspect" or not? Literally every single relevant Marvel abstract has an M-body of some sort. If these statements are all he has then he needs way more lol. I'll say it once again, breaking the 4th wall and threatening the reader is not impressive unless you got shit to back it up.

It matters because his aspect that almost destroyed the entire infinite multiverse was also infinitely weaker than him.

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@omnisage said:

Nobody except probably the Overvoid from Dc and TOAA from Marvel.

You trolling right?

Nope.

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@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

What does it matter if he was an "aspect" or not? Literally every single relevant Marvel abstract has an M-body of some sort. If these statements are all he has then he needs way more lol. I'll say it once again, breaking the 4th wall and threatening the reader is not impressive unless you got shit to back it up.

It matters because his aspect that almost destroyed the entire infinite multiverse was also infinitely weaker than him.

Where was this shown or stated?

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@omnisage said:
@brogokudestroys said:
@pyrofn said:
@brogokudestroys said:
@pyrofn said:

The Phoenix Force is literally born of the Void and rebirths itself even after total destruction of a multiverse. It’s the very nature of it to resist not just death, but complete annihilation.

No Caption Provided

Thus, even when it’s destroyed, it will come back. Not unless it allows itself to be destroyed completely.

Phoenix was before oblivion also. Lol.

And now, after that Defenders: Beyond 3 Preview, it seems confirmed that the Oblivion is the other half of the coin like Dearth is.

Thinking about making a post on it in general because of the interesting stuff the preview brings out.

That’d be pretty cool.

Oblivion is older than all of Marvel except TOAA.

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That nothingness is Oblivion, as you can see Oblivion is just below him.

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@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

What does it matter if he was an "aspect" or not? Literally every single relevant Marvel abstract has an M-body of some sort. If these statements are all he has then he needs way more lol. I'll say it once again, breaking the 4th wall and threatening the reader is not impressive unless you got shit to back it up.

It matters because his aspect that almost destroyed the entire infinite multiverse was also infinitely weaker than him.

Where was this shown or stated?

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@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

What does it matter if he was an "aspect" or not? Literally every single relevant Marvel abstract has an M-body of some sort. If these statements are all he has then he needs way more lol. I'll say it once again, breaking the 4th wall and threatening the reader is not impressive unless you got shit to back it up.

It matters because his aspect that almost destroyed the entire infinite multiverse was also infinitely weaker than him.

Where was this shown or stated?

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There are several Marvel characters who are also above multiversal so this still doesn't say much tbh.

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@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:
@professorrespect said:

Virtually anyone on the same level as Infinity and Power Cosmic Korvac. He's a joke. Two pages of pure hyperbolic nonsense from a writer who doesn't even really back his own showing here proves nothing.

Avatar Vs Aspect? how is that them at full power fighting? they were stated in that comic to be to concept to fight.

And he was stated to be more powerful the all the other entities.

@takenstew22 said:

2 pages of what looks like alot of hyperbolic statements and if I had to guess he's probably multiversal.

His aspect is already multiversal, how is he multiversal?

So alot of characters. If this stuff is all Oblivion has then I'm sorry to say but he isn't the first character to break the 4th wall nor the first to be "born before creation".

He's gonna be the first person to kill the readers.

What does it matter if he was an "aspect" or not? Literally every single relevant Marvel abstract has an M-body of some sort. If these statements are all he has then he needs way more lol. I'll say it once again, breaking the 4th wall and threatening the reader is not impressive unless you got shit to back it up.

It matters because his aspect that almost destroyed the entire infinite multiverse was also infinitely weaker than him.

Where was this shown or stated?

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There are several Marvel characters who are also above multiversal so this still doesn't say much tbh.

That was just to show you he was above the Multiverse, Chaos King is bigger than the entire marvel multiverse (AKA Multiverse Eternity), which means that an entity such as Eternity is far below him.

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That was just to show you he was above the Multiverse, Chaos King is bigger than the entire marvel multiverse (AKA Multiverse Eternity), which means that an entity such as Eternity is far below him.

So is TOBA, Beyonder, pre-retcon Molecule Man, even these guys were compared to Oblivion...

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@omnisage said:

That was just to show you he was above the Multiverse, Chaos King is bigger than the entire marvel multiverse (AKA Multiverse Eternity), which means that an entity such as Eternity is far below him.

So is TOBA, Beyonder, pre-retcon Molecule Man, even these guys were compared to Oblivion...

Though none of them were said to even have met TFO.

Oblivion is the comic book paper, he is the outside, which was stated to be the comic paper.

He was also the one to kill AR Thanos, who killed even the LT.

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The weakest form of the endless blink oblivion.

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#34  Edited By TakenStew22
@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:

That was just to show you he was above the Multiverse, Chaos King is bigger than the entire marvel multiverse (AKA Multiverse Eternity), which means that an entity such as Eternity is far below him.

So is TOBA, Beyonder, pre-retcon Molecule Man, even these guys were compared to Oblivion...

Though none of them were said to even have met TFO.

Oblivion is the comic book paper, he is the outside, which was stated to be the comic paper.

He was also the one to kill AR Thanos, who killed even the LT.

Since when? Thanos was the one who beated himself at the end iirc lol. And that story was incredibly stupid anyway, Thanos absorbed TOAA's powers but struggled to track down anyone not affected by Death. It is highly questionable whether the entire thing is even canon or not.

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@omnisage said:
@takenstew22 said:
@omnisage said:

That was just to show you he was above the Multiverse, Chaos King is bigger than the entire marvel multiverse (AKA Multiverse Eternity), which means that an entity such as Eternity is far below him.

So is TOBA, Beyonder, pre-retcon Molecule Man, even these guys were compared to Oblivion...

Though none of them were said to even have met TFO.

Oblivion is the comic book paper, he is the outside, which was stated to be the comic paper.

He was also the one to kill AR Thanos, who killed even the LT.

Since when? Thanos was the one who beated himself at the end iirc lol. And that story was incredibly stupid anyway, Thanos absorbed TOAA's powers

Ah ah ah, he absorbed TOAAO powers, not TOAA's.

but struggled to track down anyone not affected by Death. It is highly questionable whether the entire thing is even canon or not.

Well, I have the scan, but I don't know if it was canon so I'm rethinking if I should show it.

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The weakest form of the endless blink oblivion.

When can they kill someone who is the blank canvas? they're just fictional while Oblivion is real.

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@takenstew22: No need to what? You replying to what I said to you or what I said to BGD?

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@takenstew22: No need to what? You replying to what I said to you or what I said to BGD?

The scan, you don't need to show it if you don't have to. I'm just tired rn.

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@takenstew22: @omnisage: You guys know how the quote button works, right? Do I need tagged 10 times in a row lol

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@professorrespect: Tbh I didn't even know you were in there lol, I'll try to take you out.

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@brogokudestroys: @omnisage: What we have here with those scans are a "his word vs my word" situation. Since the Phoenix Force is born of the Void, I am gonna say Oblivion is older. Just under TOAA? No. If that were the case, the Phoenix Force would have succumbed to Oblivion a long time ago naturally.

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@omnisage said:
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The weakest form of the endless blink oblivion.

When can they kill someone who is the blank canvas? they're just fictional while Oblivion is real.

FUCK OBLIVION IS REAL. I DID SEE HIM IM SO SORRY. I EVEN PRAISED HIM SO HIS TRUE FORM WOULDNT KILL ME AND MY FAMILY

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@pyrofn said:

@brogokudestroys: @omnisage: What we have here with those scans are a "his word vs my word" situation. Since the Phoenix Force is born of the Void, I am gonna say Oblivion is older. Just under TOAA? No. If that were the case, the Phoenix Force would have succumbed to Oblivion a long time ago naturally.

The one I have suggests phoenix was before, but eh.

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@takenstew22: @professorrespect: You do realize that they have m-bodies correct? Oblivion transcends his own realm of non existence.

Oh boy. M BODIES! Every marvel char uses M bodies, their true forms are not revealed yet! True Form Odin must be the King of England, it's hard to find these true form beings with only their M bodies being normally shown.