Base Thanos (MCU) vs Wonder Woman (DCEU)

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@chimeroid:

Or strength, doomsday hit so hard he launched Clark and Diana for blocks. A haymaker from Thanos just knock Ironman to the ground, that's it.

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MCU should be ashamed of this Thanos they're putting out there on the big screen

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#53 Lunacyde  Moderator

Without the Infinity Gauntlet Diana should win. She has a gear advantage as well as combat speed and skill advantages. Strength-wise they should be about similar.

Implying Hulk is anywhere as fast or as skilled as Diana is absurd.

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@chimeroid:

Or strength, doomsday hit so hard he launched Clark and Diana for blocks. A haymaker from Thanos just knock Ironman to the ground, that's it.

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@temporal_shift: No he can't.

A morals off Thanos will just bust the planet.

Clark can beat base Thanos though.

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And of course, Thanos one shots.

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#58  Edited By Caesar16

Iron man made Thanos bleed, that's enough to realise that base Thanos isn't that durable. He also struggled against GotG, Peter and Tony, while having 4 infinity stones in his gauntlet.

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@caesar16:

Thanos wasn't pierced by vibranium blades, vibranium bullets and Drax's swords.

Iron Man just scratched him with a full force swing from that weapon and you shouldn't say this like if Iron Man was CW Iron Man, IW Iron Man was insanely powerful, he could easily beat MCU Hulk.

He tanked a freaking huge meteor/piece of the moon and was just fine.

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#60  Edited By Caesar16

@laiks stake: Same Iron man was also getting his a** whooped by Obsidian.

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@thunderprince: Ejector seats are not supersonic they would kill the people being launched on them if they were even slightly close to that.

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@laiks stake: Diana’s sword is magical so comparing it to vibranium is null

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@muvdcu: Looking into the subject a bit more, it is possible to survive moving at that speed. And several pilots have survived doing so.

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#66 the_red_viper  Moderator

Diana. Base Thanos doesn't have resistance against bladed weapons. Diana's sword can hurt him, and with her skill and speed it surely will.

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@godxdarkxopal: did you not here in the jla movie where they said we need something more durable than the planet to stop the beam and batman said clark was the only one who could do it.

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@motm said:

Lmao.

Wonder Woman in an utter embarrassment.

She cuts a full IG Thanos head off, he's a massive jobber.

-_- No

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@comic_book_fan: lol go watch the movie. Iron man is fantastic now. Avengers without Thor>>>JLA

Yes he's fantastic, but nowhere near Superman level.

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Isnt she only quick when running? If i remember correctly she struggled with steppenwolf, who is insanely slow.

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Thanos. Diana can't even hurt him -_-

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A single haymaker from Black Dwarf knocked Ironman through 2 city block buildings... ploughed Ironman through a park and crashed his head into a tree and Ironman is like 'how you doing Bruce'? are you gonna run or Hulk out. This same Black Dwarf dude later in the movie is shown at least equal or stronger than Hulkbuster, which was creating shockwave punches in the Hulk fight during Ultron.

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Thanos, it goes like his fight with Hulk.

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#74  Edited By MUVDCU

@thunderprince: I looked it up too. And that is literally the absolute fastest any ejector seat has ever gone on average they are much slower. Also it doesn't start at supersonic. It gradually speeds up over like 5-10 seconds. The pilot was caught immediately after so maybe 200 mph tops. It's still a good reaction feat.

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@muvdcu: Fair enough, Hulk still has his RPG feat though.

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Thanos beats her so bad she will scream no in her next movie.

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Diana will win. Thanos had trouble keeping up with Spiderman. He also almost got killed by his daughter who fights with knives. Diana has the feats to cut or stab thanos. Thanos will be unable to one-shot or even kill her unless he constantly pounds her with punches.

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#78 anthp2000  Moderator

Diana could beat base Thanos.

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Thanos wrecks

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@jashugan said:

Diana will win. Thanos had trouble keeping up with Spiderman. He also almost got killed by his daughter who fights with knives. Diana has the feats to cut or stab thanos. Thanos will be unable to one-shot or even kill her unless he constantly pounds her with punches.

This is insane lowball. He literally caught spiderman mid swing and slammed him easily, also who almost killed him? Gamorra? Did you even watch the film?

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#81  Edited By jashugan

@themaximus: he couldn't catch spiderman at first and eventually caught him. This didn't stop spidey from punching him in his face earlier on. That's a very clear indicator on the speed Thanos operates, which is slower than Diana.

You know Thanos has more than one daughter? Nebula almost killed him. Thanos himself said that. Did you watch the movie?

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@jashugan: he said she nearly succeeded in killing him, but we dont know what she did. We dont know if it was a chemical she was using or a plan. Also you realize spiderman was literally portal jumping and thanos was still able to react and slam him? Meanwhile diana has been tagged by fodder and slow steppenwolf.

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#83 anthp2000  Moderator

Thanos only had trouble with Doom, Tony, Spidey and the Gaurdians because their gameplan and teamwork/numbers was incredibly well thought out and executed.

He still beat them and he was fodderizing all of them except Tony 1 on 1.

Diana should be able to just stomp them, but let's not low-ball Thanos.

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@aka_aka_aka_ak: Doomsday never hit WW, she blocked all his hits with her shield.


......................... huh?? watch 0:55 she got swatted like a nat.

@3:33 he threw her like a baseball


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wonder woman potentially can't cut thanos since she couldn't do shit to steppen with her sword. its been implied the only reason she dismembered doomsday was due to kryptonians magic weakness. thanos stomps her with few blows

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#86  Edited By sportjames23

@dami24434: Thanos got cut by Tony. Diana’s sword should slice him just fine.

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@grimus: Watch the video at 0.25 speed and you will see that WW blocked every single strike with her shield. Or you can simply listen and you will her a distinct clang of metal to signify WW's shield being struck.

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#88  Edited By blacharrt

Base Thanos ragdolled Hulk... Yeah WonderWoman is not going to beat Thanos.

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WW. Thanos is a jobber if I ever saw one. He had 4 stones and he still jobbed as hell. He wouldve died to a bunch of street levels like Quill, Drax and Spiderman on Titan if Peter didnt start punching him in the face like a retard. What makes you think he can take on WW without stones? She can blitz him, her sword can one shot him, her lasso can incap him, her bracelets give her distance weapon advantage. She also fought much physically stronger opponents like Doomsday and held her own so Thanos being MCU Hulks superior is not a factor for her.

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@thunderprince: From the comic tie in.

It doesn't look like the people are anywhere near far enough away for the RPG-7 to reach even close to maximum velocity though. It takes like 60-70 feet the guys are maybe 25 feet away so it's not a mach speed reaction feat. Also the rocket wasn't fired at his back it was his side, some people like to Wank that feat. I prefer real non-bias. If you have a feat where there's literally no way to exactly quantify distance/speed etc. never go top or bottom alway meet in the middle that way it's not lowballing or wanking. A fair assumption would be that the rocket was going between 300-500 fps which is still a solid reaction feat. Just not mach speeds again. It's still awesome for Hulk.

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@muvdcu: I'm not saying that Hulk has mach 1 reaction speeds but he does clearly have superhuman reaction speed and Thanos casually dodged around his strikes. Normal humans have been able to react to WW's combat speed and Thanos has humiliated an opponent with superhuman reaction speed. Ergo, Thanos should be able to WW.

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@dami24434: They have said nothing of the sort. It's purely speculation to think they are weak to magic. Also so far her sword is merely an insanely durable and sharp weapon. There's been no sign of Magical Properties.

She does sharpen it in JL. So I'm literally thinking it's just a ridiculously durable weapon. It has never once shown and form of magic coming from it though.

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@thunderprince: Yes and no. No human has fought Diana while she was fighting seriously. We actually see how fast she can move they just don't make her move that fast all the time. The thing is she has feats to show when she needs to be she's literally like 5-6 times faster than the Hulk.

Thanos wasn't much faster than him at all. He was just clearly better at fighting and dodged effectively. Also based on how he was acting/reacting to everyone in the movie he's just at or above Hulk barely. She could win provided she doesn't decide to trade blows with him for some stupid reason. That's my take on it. Although I don't see her not blocking his attack and based on what we saw Doomsday is actually a harder hitter.

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Wonder Woman. With her sword and speed takes this one.

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#96  Edited By ThunderPrince

@muvdcu: Diana always seems to be fighting seriously, she has never been shown to hold back at all when fighting her foes. WW's reaction speed simply doesn't bleed into her combat speed. This is evidenced by DD, Steppenwolf, the General in her movie, Ares, and even normal humans tagging her in combat.

He would have to be faster do dodge all of Hulk's strikes with such casual ease. And the only reason why anyone else was able to tag him was because of Strange's portals. He even reacted to Strombreaker being thrown at him. Thanos does hit harder than DD considering the fact that he knocked out Hulk and bloodied his face with only a few strikes. Hulk has shrugged off strikes from the Hulk-buster, lightning amped Thor, and even Surtur throwing him a few kilometers into the Bifrost bridge. DD failed to even scratch Superman with his strikes.

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#97  Edited By MUVDCU

@thunderprince: Yes he dramatically outskilled Hulk but he wouldn't have to be dramatically faster to do it how he did. He just stayed out of range used his proper movement to get out when needed and counter. That's all Thanos did and when he knew Hulk felt it he poured it on. Based on how long it took him to grab Spidey he's not even close to fast enough to react to her consistently. He never moved all that Fast at all. His best feat was destroying Hulk. That fight seamed incredibly slow to me though. Hulk really didn't move fast aside from when he initially surprised him. He's still awesome overall but I think this is one of those fights where the person moving 5 times faster with a sword that can definitely cut the other is gonna pull the W more often than not. She can block his attacks and make them basically nothing. And she can cut him fairly easily. I'm failing to see how he win or even come close let alone a majority. Based on what we saw from Thanos Ares is faster.

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#98  Edited By MUVDCU

@thunderprince: Everyone has failed to Bloody Superman lol. That's not usable as a comparison to who hits harder or comparable durability etc.

Superman has been thrown through Several skyscrapers at multiple times the speed of sound which is much faster than any MCU character has been thrown or launched through anything and he was unscathed. That's actually even better than Taking Thors amped punch. So not quite comparable. Also Doomsday hit Clark thousands of feet and at Supersonic speeds not just some couple hundred mph feat like Tony getting punched by Black Dwarf etc.

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@thunderprince: Also Thanos hit a lot of people and swatted them away. He never once Launched people. While literally the majority of DDs strikes launched people hundreds and sometimes thousands of feet. Technically speaking Black Dwarf had better striking feats. Yeah Thanos knocked out Hulk but all he did was hit him 5-6 times in a small span of time and none of them launched the Hulk or moved him at all.

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@muvdcu:

Yes he dramatically outskilled Hulk but he wouldn't have to be dramatically faster to do it how he did. He just stayed out of range used his proper movement to get out when needed and counter. That's all Thanos did and when he knew Hulk felt it he poured it on. Based on how long it took him to grab Spidey he's not even close to fast enough to react to her consistently. He never moved all that Fast at all. His best feat was destroying Hulk. That fight seamed incredibly slow to me though. Hulk really didn't move fast aside from when he initially surprised him. He's still awesome overall but I think this is one of those fights where the person moving 5 times faster with a sword that can definitely cut the other is gonna pull the W more often than not. She can block his attacks and make them basically nothing. And she can cut him fairly easily. I'm failing to see how he win or even come close let alone a majority. Based on what we saw from Thanos Ares is faster.

We'll have to agree on the Thanos speed thing, because to me it looked like Thanos was clearly the faster of the two. And at the very least Thanos would have had to be as fast as Hulk to react to his strikes. I personally thought that the Hulk vs Thanos fight was quite fast but to each his own. Again, WW's reaction speed is much different than her combat speed as evidenced by DD, Steppenwolf, the General in her movie, Ares, and even normal humans tagging her in combat. This is how fast Ares is.

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Yeah, he is pretty slow.

Everyone has failed to Bloody Superman lol. That's not usable as a comparison to who hits harder or comparable durability etc.

Superman has been thrown through Several skyscrapers at multiple times the speed of sound which is much faster than any MCU character has been thrown or launched through anything and he was unscathed. That's actually even better than Taking Thors amped punch. So not quite comparable. Also Doomsday hit Clark thousands of feet and at Supersonic speeds not just some couple hundred mph feat like Tony getting punched by Black Dwarf etc.

Also Thanos hit a lot of people and swatted them away. He never once Launched people. While literally the majority of DDs strikes launched people hundreds and sometimes thousands of feet. Technically speaking Black Dwarf had better striking feats. Yeah Thanos knocked out Hulk but all he did was hit him 5-6 times in a small span of time and none of them launched the Hulk or moved him at all.

In comics how far a strike send an opponent is not the greatest factor determining the strength of the fight. How much damage the strike does to the person it hits is a greater determining factor in my opinion. Thanos also seemed to hold back against the Avengers since he didn't want to kill needlessly. Thanos' strikes still did more damage to Hulk than anything Thor's lightning amped strikes, and DD still has no striking feats on that level. WW cannot survive multiple strikes from Thanos.