Base Ichibei vs BSM Naruto

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Linking videos after getting debunked is the limit of a goof's debating skill after all. Bye.

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@rabii99 said:

Linking videos after getting debunked is the limit of a goof's debating skill after all. Bye.

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The Bleach fanbase disappointing us all yet again.

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Ichibe still stomps, how’s this even debatable?

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Apparently kurama is mountain size...

You learn something new everyday

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And naruto still stomps.....what's new?

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@undre: sooo.....?and by how much?

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#210  Edited By Undre

@ultimatesage: why do keep saying naruto wins when hes completely outcast in almost every category.

And ichibe is sub

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#211  Edited By Wanderez

Ichibei can easily keep up with EOS Naruto. Lmao, this is just sad.

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Serious answer tho...... naruto two shots.

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#213  Edited By uchihaghost

@Rabii99 just want to point out that the kurama Madara was using was full kurama, when minato sealed kurama in naruto, he sealed half of it (the yang) and sealed the other half (the yin) in him. There was a reduction in its size when he sealed the half in naruto. So yea thats why the kurama madara used was bigger not cuz 1 had flesh and the other was an energy avatar.

Joviolma and Rabii said it all, they been on some bleachwank control haha. Lemme just re emphasise on these points;

Names in bleach have power = facts

Ichibei can cut said names and depower bleach characters = facts

Naruto characters don't have power in names = fact

(And the misconception about madara's name having power in it, is just a desperate attempt from the bleach fans lmao, it just means madara was so strong when his name is mentioned he strikes fear in the hearts of many not that his name holds any sort of physical power).

Ichibei's power is the type of power that can only be used inversely like say (tenketsu, copying jutsus with sharingan etc). So unless there is a sort of equalisation, the technique shouldn't work.

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I was not 100% sure just yet, but now im fully aware that some people dont know how concepts work.

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Ichibe still stomps, how’s this even debatable?

It could be Kid Naruto vs Yhwach and Naruto fanboys would still try debating it. Shows how trash their presence on CV is.

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@wanderez said:

I was not 100% sure just yet, but now im fully aware that some people dont know how concepts work.

It's not that they don't understand concepts. What they do is in all their dishonesty try to create their own meaning of what works and doesn't work. But what do you expect from Naruto debators at this point?

Off topic example but one I will always remember when dealing with Naruto debators. A few years ago so called "Top naruto debators" claimed that Ki energy attacks in DB doesn't have force. Need I say more? Or is it apparent how idiotic that is? All for the sake of trying to get a win for Naruto against DBZ.

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It's odd that people are saying ichibei can't use his powers outside of bleach. Like just simplify the power. It cuts abilities and powers in half. To say otherwise means this isn't BSM since there is no sage chakra in the battlefield so naruto can't use sage mode. He also would be unable to see ichibei since he doesn't have any reiatsu and would die from being near him.

Ichibei is already heavily nerfed let's not nerf him more to give naruto a win

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@uchihaghost: Not really, adult Naruto has 100% Kurama and the chakra avatar is still smaller than the real thing.

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@Rabii99 just want to point out that the kurama Madara was using was full kurama, when minato sealed kurama in naruto, he sealed half of it (the yang) and sealed the other half (the yin) in him. There was a reduction in its size when he sealed the half in naruto. So yea thats why the kurama madara used was bigger not cuz 1 had flesh and the other was an energy avatar.

Joviolma and Rabii said it all, they been on some bleachwank control haha. Lemme just re emphasise on these points;

Names in bleach have power = facts

Ichibei can cut said names and depower bleach characters = facts

Naruto characters don't have power in names = fact

(And the misconception about madara's name having power in it, is just a desperate attempt from the bleach fans lmao, it just means madara was so strong when his name is mentioned he strikes fear in the hearts of many not that his name holds any sort of physical power).

Ichibei's power is the type of power that can only be used inversely like say (tenketsu, copying jutsus with sharingan etc). So unless there is a sort of equalisation, the technique shouldn't work.

Factually wrong as I already proved but you're too ignorant too accept.

His ability is to give names power and manipulate them accordingly, him naming Naruto an Ant would give Naruto the power of an Ant because his ability says so.

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So we're clear thst naruto wins this?ok good talk.

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@rabii99: hmm, I wonder why that is then... cuz we have an on panel scan of kurama shrinking when minato sealed it in naruto, so I always thought that was the case (which makes more sense tbh) but well so be it... maybe they forgot to change the size of kurama to a full sized version *shrugs*

@LimitlessSigil I didn't read through all your arguments because I know you tend to spew shit most of the time, but you do have a point on this one... totally forgot ichibei could rename stuff and give them powers of stuff he renames. Not gonna lie thats some crazy hax.

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naruto stomps even bankai ichibei.

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@zuriel-el: lmaoo

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naruto stomps even bankai ichibei.

Picture of Itachi? ✓

Wanking a Naruto character to the moon? ✓

Downplaying a Bleach character into the ground? ✓

Yep, a Naruto fanboy.

Base Ichibe wins this, Bankai Ichibe no diffs.

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#227  Edited By Zuriel-el

@LimitlessSigil:

what feat makes ichibei naruto tier. please post it i will wait. how he damages naruto, how he stands up to biju dama.. please go ahead i will wait, bleach fan_boy.

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what feat makes ichibei naruto tier. please post it i will wait. how he damages naruto, how he stands up to biju dama.. please go ahead i will wait, bleach fan_boy.

Far superior speed, far superior hax, far superior experience, far superior physical strength, he controls all blackness, meaning Bijuudama's get turned against Naruto.

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proof, dude proof.... naruto has faster combat speed, you only have a travel speed fest to argue with, hax gets blown apart by rasenshurikens, physical strength (it was a hax like when he told juha his throat would be crushed), biju dama aint black either, and non of his feats show he can damage naruto at all heck his bankai turned everything on panel black and then what? he was zapped by juha (featless bankai), mean while a single bijuu dama from naruto destroys him completely.

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proof, dude proof.... naruto has faster combat speed, you only have a travel speed fest to argue with

Lol no. To be able to travel 4000 KM nigh-instantly you have to be able to perceive your surroundings which counts as Combat Speed.

hax gets blown apart by rasenshurikens

Rasenshuriken does nothing and is slow af

physical strength (it was a hax like when he told juha his throat would be crushed)

Sending Yhwach 4000 KM with a giant fist counts as physical strength, just like when people try arguing Naruto avatar fist counts as physical strength

biju dama aint black either

Yes it is lul, it's Black in the manga. And even if you want to argue it's dark purple since the Anime, that's still a shade of darkness.

and non of his feats show he can damage naruto at all heck his bankai

Ichibe turns Naruto into an Ant and then proceeds to step on him

turned everything on panel black and then what? he was zapped by juha (featless bankai)

He doesn't need his Bankai to win tho lmao

mean while a single bijuu dama from naruto destroys him completely.

Again, Naruto fires a Bijuudama and it now belongs to Ichibe.

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#231  Edited By Token1300

Hmm a sword swing of Getsuga Tenshou or multiple Biju Damas fired ? I go with BSM Naruto. He has better AP and numbers.

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@LimitlessSigil:

so Usain Bolt is faster than Bruce Lee at combat √

Rasenshuriken has hit many fast characters (including so6p madara). denial √

no one argues kurama is naruto, and the giant arms did no damage to juha (shit tier durability, he was slashed every time a sword made it to his body). poor example √

claims ichibei controls dark purple and uses black and white manga to tell colour. denial and kuku? √

assuming bijuudama doesn't end it before that. no dice √

are u still using black and white scans to do this? kuku √

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#234  Edited By LimitlessSigil

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@LimitlessSigil:

so Usain Bolt is faster than Bruce Lee at combat √

This clearly shows the level of intellect you have

Rasenshuriken has hit many fast characters (including so6p madara). denial √

He hit Madara when he was still fatigued and injured after fighting Guy. Madara also didn't try dodging it because he thought his Limbo would stop Naruto (Who dodged it)

no one argues kurama is naruto, and the giant arms did no damage to juha (shit tier durability, he was slashed every time a sword made it to his body). poor example √

Learn to read lmfao.

claims ichibei controls dark purple and uses black and white manga to tell colour. denial and kuku? √

Ichibe controls "darkness", learn the definition of that. It's Black in the official Shueisha coloring of Naruto, and again, even if it were Dark Purple, black comprises 90%+ of that color.

assuming bijuudama doesn't end it before that. no dice √

Assuming Ichibe can't easily dodge a Bijuudama, not that he needs to because again, he controls all darkness.

are u still using black and white scans to do this? kuku √

No, I've read the official Shueisha coloring of Naruto, clearly you haven't.

What a joke. You have to be a real fanboy to suggest BSM Naruto who isn't even a god-tier in his verse is beating Ichibe.

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Ichibei dies because BIGGER BOOM = K.O.

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#236  Edited By ourmanuel

>ichibe

>planetary

Almost as laughable as naruto winning.

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Ichibei mid diffs this at WORST, while in base. Ichibei trumps BSM in almost every stat and has some op hax.

Naruto only has the firepower here.

This coming from a Naruto fanboy,

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Ichibei mid diffs this at WORST, while in base. Ichibei trumps BSM in almost every stat and has some op hax.

Naruto only has the firepower here.

This coming from a Naruto fanboy,

Agree

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Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

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Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

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#240  Edited By LimitlessSigil

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Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

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Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

And yes, his hax will work.

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

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@ultimatesage said:

Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Is this you assuming it to be a fan colored scan?lmao ok

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

Speed?yes, but naruto's 2 precog hard counters that, Hax?sure, experience/intelligence?so was pain, obito, kabuto, and orochimaru and you forget naruto has a 500+ old beast in his belly, physical strength?wut...show those mountain+ physical strength then...

Durability?naruto easily, ability to one shot?naruto

And yes, his hax will work.

And no, his hax won't work

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

Bleach debaters are pure sodium chloride....too much and it's bad for your health.

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#242  Edited By LimitlessSigil

@ultimatesage said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:

Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Is this you assuming it to be a fan colored scan?lmao ok

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

Speed?yes, but naruto's 2 precog hard counters that, Hax?sure, experience/intelligence?so was pain, obito, kabuto, and orochimaru and you forget naruto has a 500+ old beast in his belly, physical strength?wut...show those mountain+ physical strength then...

Durability?naruto easily, ability to one shot?naruto

And yes, his hax will work.

And no, his hax won't work

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

Bleach debaters are pure sodium chloride....too much and it's bad for your health.

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Pathetic, trying to deceive people with fan made coloring on Reddit

ColorKage is literally a subreddit where people fan color certain chapters

This is beyond sad.

There goes any credibility you never actually had.

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@ultimatesage said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:

Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Is this you assuming it to be a fan colored scan?lmao ok

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

Speed?yes, but naruto's 2 precog hard counters that, Hax?sure, experience/intelligence?so was pain, obito, kabuto, and orochimaru and you forget naruto has a 500+ old beast in his belly, physical strength?wut...show those mountain+ physical strength then...

Durability?naruto easily, ability to one shot?naruto

And yes, his hax will work.

And no, his hax won't work

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

Bleach debaters are pure sodium chloride....too much and it's bad for your health.

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Pathetic, trying to deceive people with fan made coloring on Reddit

ColorKage is literally a subreddit where people fan color certain chapters

This is beyond sad.

There goes any credibility you never actually had.

Me lose credibility because a bleach fan said so?lmao, get that weak sauce outta here boi.

There is a colored version.....that scan I posted was something you can find on google.

At least I'm not the guy telling people it's black because the author can only use two colors.lmao

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#244  Edited By LimitlessSigil

@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:

Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Is this you assuming it to be a fan colored scan?lmao ok

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

Speed?yes, but naruto's 2 precog hard counters that, Hax?sure, experience/intelligence?so was pain, obito, kabuto, and orochimaru and you forget naruto has a 500+ old beast in his belly, physical strength?wut...show those mountain+ physical strength then...

Durability?naruto easily, ability to one shot?naruto

And yes, his hax will work.

And no, his hax won't work

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

Bleach debaters are pure sodium chloride....too much and it's bad for your health.

Pathetic, trying to deceive people with fan made coloring on Reddit

ColorKage is literally a subreddit where people fan color certain chapters

This is beyond sad.

There goes any credibility you never actually had.

Me lose credibility because a bleach fan said so?lmao, get that weak sauce outta here boi.

There is a colored version.....that scan I posted was something you can find on google.

At least I'm not the guy telling people it's black because the author can only use two colors.lmao

The fact that you clearly didn't even read the scans (Since it tells you it's not official at the bottom) doesn't even surprise me, Naruto debaters are a joke.

It is black, unlike you I've actually read the colored version published by Shueisha

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@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:

Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Is this you assuming it to be a fan colored scan?lmao ok

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

Speed?yes, but naruto's 2 precog hard counters that, Hax?sure, experience/intelligence?so was pain, obito, kabuto, and orochimaru and you forget naruto has a 500+ old beast in his belly, physical strength?wut...show those mountain+ physical strength then...

Durability?naruto easily, ability to one shot?naruto

And yes, his hax will work.

And no, his hax won't work

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

Bleach debaters are pure sodium chloride....too much and it's bad for your health.

Pathetic, trying to deceive people with fan made coloring on Reddit

ColorKage is literally a subreddit where people fan color certain chapters

This is beyond sad.

There goes any credibility you never actually had.

Me lose credibility because a bleach fan said so?lmao, get that weak sauce outta here boi.

There is a colored version.....that scan I posted was something you can find on google.

At least I'm not the guy telling people it's black because the author can only use two colors.lmao

The fact that you clearly didn't even read the scans (Since it tells you it's not official at the bottom) doesn't even surprise me, Naruto debaters are a joke.

What?am I supposed to make sure every little detail is right for you?lol,and calling naruto debaters jokes doesn't make you less of a clown.

It is black, unlike you I've actually read the colored version published by Shueisha

Oh really??, you any proof of that or are you just saying because....?

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@zuriel-el: @ultimatesage:false biju bombs are mostly black

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Not to mention narutos cloak is half black aswell. And his tsb

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@limitlesssigil said:

@ultimatesage said:

@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@ultimatesage said:

Bijuudama are black durr...lmao, to purple is black durr...lol

Ichibei only advantage is speed and his hax that doesn't work on other verses, naruto beats him in every other stats.

Planetary Ichibei is as funny as every other plantary bleach character claim.

>Uses a fan coloring to try and disprove me.

Is this you assuming it to be a fan colored scan?lmao ok

Ichibe has the Speed/Hax/Intelligence/Experience/Physical Strength advantage

Speed?yes, but naruto's 2 precog hard counters that, Hax?sure, experience/intelligence?so was pain, obito, kabuto, and orochimaru and you forget naruto has a 500+ old beast in his belly, physical strength?wut...show those mountain+ physical strength then...

Durability?naruto easily, ability to one shot?naruto

And yes, his hax will work.

And no, his hax won't work

Naruto debaters are like monkeys, it's fun to tease them for a while but quickly becomes boring.

Bleach debaters are pure sodium chloride....too much and it's bad for your health.

Pathetic, trying to deceive people with fan made coloring on Reddit

ColorKage is literally a subreddit where people fan color certain chapters

This is beyond sad.

There goes any credibility you never actually had.

Me lose credibility because a bleach fan said so?lmao, get that weak sauce outta here boi.

There is a colored version.....that scan I posted was something you can find on google.

At least I'm not the guy telling people it's black because the author can only use two colors.lmao

The fact that you clearly didn't even read the scans (Since it tells you it's not official at the bottom) doesn't even surprise me, Naruto debaters are a joke.

What?am I supposed to make sure every little detail is right for you?lol,and calling naruto debaters jokes doesn't make you less of a clown.

You're suppose to check the authenticity of things that you're using as proof yes, not knowing that shows how terrible of a debater you are.

It is black, unlike you I've actually read the colored version published by Shueisha

Oh really??, you any proof of that or are you just saying because....?

Maybe, err, read the official colored manga?

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So we're still on naruto stomping this?ok

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So we're still on Naruto getting stomped? Ok.

You have to work on your grammar, it's okay though. I fixed it for you.