- Both characters are blood lusted
- No defusing
- Vegetto from fta and Gogeta from the Broly movie
- Win via KO or death
- Who is the winner?
Bonus round- Vegetto gets to use kkx20
Vegito stomps so hard its not even funny. Both Goku and Vegeta haven't gotten nearly strong enough to suggest Base Gogeta stands a chance.
@rxdking: The movie isn't out yet?
@rxdking: The movie isn't out yet?
There's been spoilers and a private screening that got leaked
For people to claim that Gogeta wins here, they have to also be claiming that Goku/Vegeta got over 500x stronger in their base compared to the Future Trunks Arc (And that's a massive low-ball, we all know SSB is a much higher multiplier than 500x aswell as the fact that Potara is stronger than Metamoran fusion anyway).
There isn't any evidence suggesting Post-ToP Base Blue Goku and Vegeta have significantly surpassed their Future Trunks Arc Blue form selves, so Vegito takes this.
Which is why SSB Vegito easily defeats even SSB Gogeta, simply because the Potara Fusion is canonically more powerful and additionally benefits from the rival boost.
@noobsnowman: gogeta has dimension busting feats though
Wasn't base gogeta One-shotting dimensions?
With just punches....
No... that was after he transformed.
@noobsnowman: gogeta has dimension busting feats though
How big were the dimensions? Doesn’t GT base Goku have a feat of blasting apart a dimension?
Vegito stomps so hard it's not even funny. Both Goku and Vegeta haven't gotten nearly strong enough to suggest Base Gogeta stands a chance.
@scotchbear: So does SSB Vegeta, SSB Goku and to a greater extent, SSR Goku Black. Not impressed.
I wish the movie would hint that Gogeta and Vegito are of the same level, thus ending these discussions.
@noobsnowman: no they broke out of dimensions and tore holes in dimensions. Goku destroyed a tiny pocket dimensions
Gogeta was just straight busting massive dimensions casually with punches, hell him and broly were warping through different dimensions and busting them just from fighting
We’ve never seen anything on that scale in db
@scotchbear: Based on what is it massive, and based on what did him and Broly warp different dimensions? Based on what did he do it casually? We don't even know the size of the dimension and the nature of their fight.
Personally I don't buy that Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta. If we look at the manga when Vegetto started overwhelming Boo, Kaioshin exclaimed that this must be the power of Potara. Elder Kai responded that he's a fool, and the reason Vegetto was so strong is because of Goku and Vegeta and their compatibility. I think that any fusion between the two of them, since they are so compatible, would be just as OP.
@the_hajduk said:
Personally I don't buy that Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta. If we look at the manga when Vegetto started overwhelming Boo, Kaioshin exclaimed that this must be the power of Potara. Elder Kai responded that he's a fool, and the reason Vegetto was so strong is because of Goku and Vegeta and their compatibility. I think that any fusion between the two of them, since they are so compatible, would be just as OP.
The Daizenshuu kind of says so
Potara
First Appearance: chapter 501
Category: miscellaneous
Explanation: Ear decorations worn by Kaioshins and their attendants for generations. Despite being worn so casually, they’re actually an incredible power-up item. The Elder Kaioshin gave them to Goku as a trump card for defeating Majin Buu.
Special Characteristics: To use them, the two people who will merge simply each take one of the two earrings and put in on their left or right ear, respectively. Furthermore, after merging the power is greater than with Fusion. However, the two people will automatically merge as soon as the earrings are put on, and in principle will be unable to ever split up again, so caution is needed when handling them. The merged person will only split up when touched by the air inside Majin Buu’s body. Also, while with Fusion the post-merged clothing is the native dress of the people of Planet Metamor, when merging with the Potara not only are the two people’s bodies mixed together, but their clothing is as well. In addition, pathetically enough the East Kaioshin and his attendant Kibito merged together without knowing a thing about Potara fusion. (Daizenshuu 4, p.163)
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13080
As well as not needing to lower your power levels to match the other fusee
@the_hajduk said:
Personally I don't buy that Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta. If we look at the manga when Vegetto started overwhelming Boo, Kaioshin exclaimed that this must be the power of Potara. Elder Kai responded that he's a fool, and the reason Vegetto was so strong is because of Goku and Vegeta and their compatibility. I think that any fusion between the two of them, since they are so compatible, would be just as OP.
The Daizenshuu kind of says so
Potara
First Appearance: chapter 501
Category: miscellaneous
Explanation: Ear decorations worn by Kaioshins and their attendants for generations. Despite being worn so casually, they’re actually an incredible power-up item. The Elder Kaioshin gave them to Goku as a trump card for defeating Majin Buu.
Special Characteristics: To use them, the two people who will merge simply each take one of the two earrings and put in on their left or right ear, respectively. Furthermore, after merging the power is greater than with Fusion. However, the two people will automatically merge as soon as the earrings are put on, and in principle will be unable to ever split up again, so caution is needed when handling them. The merged person will only split up when touched by the air inside Majin Buu’s body. Also, while with Fusion the post-merged clothing is the native dress of the people of Planet Metamor, when merging with the Potara not only are the two people’s bodies mixed together, but their clothing is as well. In addition, pathetically enough the East Kaioshin and his attendant Kibito merged together without knowing a thing about Potara fusion. (Daizenshuu 4, p.163)
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13080
As well as not needing to lower your power levels to match the other fusee
Wow, so it seems this is irrefutable. Nice one. Thanks for being polite and cool too.
@the_hajduk said:
Personally I don't buy that Vegetto is stronger than Gogeta. If we look at the manga when Vegetto started overwhelming Boo, Kaioshin exclaimed that this must be the power of Potara. Elder Kai responded that he's a fool, and the reason Vegetto was so strong is because of Goku and Vegeta and their compatibility. I think that any fusion between the two of them, since they are so compatible, would be just as OP.
The Daizenshuu kind of says so
Potara
First Appearance: chapter 501
Category: miscellaneous
Explanation: Ear decorations worn by Kaioshins and their attendants for generations. Despite being worn so casually, they’re actually an incredible power-up item. The Elder Kaioshin gave them to Goku as a trump card for defeating Majin Buu.
Special Characteristics: To use them, the two people who will merge simply each take one of the two earrings and put in on their left or right ear, respectively. Furthermore, after merging the power is greater than with Fusion. However, the two people will automatically merge as soon as the earrings are put on, and in principle will be unable to ever split up again, so caution is needed when handling them. The merged person will only split up when touched by the air inside Majin Buu’s body. Also, while with Fusion the post-merged clothing is the native dress of the people of Planet Metamor, when merging with the Potara not only are the two people’s bodies mixed together, but their clothing is as well. In addition, pathetically enough the East Kaioshin and his attendant Kibito merged together without knowing a thing about Potara fusion. (Daizenshuu 4, p.163)
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=13080
As well as not needing to lower your power levels to match the other fusee
Spoiler alert
They're equals now
I wish the movie would hint that Gogeta and Vegito are of the same level, thus ending these discussions.
every kind hearted person should get the chance to quote himself at one point.
I am happy with this statement " needless to say "
It was just confirmed both fusions are equal in power.
So in regards to this thread it’s a mismatch in favor of Vegitto
Based on the previous Janemba movie, it seems that Gogeta is way smarter and way more objective than Vegito, but the potara-fusion is always stronger, so it's not always about who is more powerful, but who has a better performance, who can use its powers better, as an example, Gogeta's Star Dust doesn't has a casual or an AoE destructive capability but an objective and absolute destructive power.
@limitlesssigil: all of that information on potara is now false. and held little weight to begin with since nothing in the manga corroborated the daizenshu. the fan canon of vegetto being a stronger fusion takes another hit since toriyama states the only reason they didn't do the dance was because it was already used in the movie, he would have been fine with gogeta.
Vegito stomps
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