Base CCC Gilgamesh VS Xeno Goku, Demigra, and Super Mira

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Goku senses a being far beyond anything he has comprehended before entering the Dragon Ball Multiverse. Feeling incapable of dealing with the threat himself, he calls upon the help of Demigra and Mira, who reluctantly agree after feeling the incredible power of this unknown entity approaching the multiverse.

Gilgamesh is entering the Dragon Ball Multiverse while in search for a planet to live on with Hakuno after leaving the Moon Cell.

Goku, Demigra, and Mira mistake this as an invasion and attack Gilgamesh.

Gilgamesh decides to only fight them in hand to hand combat for amusement. However he is using SNI to help him with his close combat skills due to his omniscience.

Fight takes place at the edge of the multiverse.

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Gil blinks

INB4 zgt wank btw

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@beyondst1001: while I don’t agree with him on fate I think you’re an alt and shouldn’t be taking seriously.

Gilgamesh stomps utterly

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#4  Edited By zgtfreak

@ecoblitz: He's literally roasted by everyone for saying Umineko solos fiction without giving any argument. It's best to ignore him like everyone else does.

OT: Gilgamesh dances around their attacks and smacks them; then lets Hakuno play with them.

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Gil stomos dude.

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#6  Edited By BeyondST1001

@ecoblitz: It doesn't matter what you thinks dude, nobody cares, and gtfo

@zgtfreak said:

@ecoblitz: He's literally roasted by everyone for saying Umineko solos fiction without giving any argument. It's best to ignore him like everyone else does.

OT: Gilgamesh dances around their attacks and smacks them; then lets Hakuno play with them.

Never said that, can you stop lying for once, ex db wanker, ex umineko wanker, now nasu and dc wanker, what's the next

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#7  Edited By zgtfreak

@beyondst1001: ex db wanker

??? Literally anyone will tell you I hate DB. Ask any DB fan.

umineko wanker

I argue for and against Umineko, despite liking the series.

dc wanker

I hate DC. What? I say they win in fights because they do. I am not bias.

I'm done derailing with you. Have fun getting roasted in your multiversal threads like usual. You're spewing garbage and have no idea what you're talking about as usual. There's a reason literally everyone hates you.

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#8  Edited By BeyondST1001

@zgtfreak said:

@beyondst1001: ex db wanker

??? Literally anyone will tell you I hate DB. Ask any DB fan.

I know, that's what ex mean past time, genius

umineko wanker

I argue for and against Umineko, despite liking the series.

dc wanker

I hate DC. What? I say they win in fights because they do. I am not bias.

Sure I'm not biased also, everyone isn't biased

I'm done derailing with you. Have fun getting roasted in your multiversal threads like usual.

Follow your own advice

Everyone reasonable hates you as well and looks like you care even a little? I feel the same way

Anyway sure I stop derailing as well if you reply anything go to pm

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#9  Edited By Kanesada_Kuji

@zgtfreak: Stay on topic. Two seconds in and my thread is getting raped.

@beyondst1001 Oh for fuck sake, fuck off. You come in here immediately shit talking two users for no reason. You are clearly the main problem here. Stay on topic or get out. I don't care about your damn beef.

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Nope. Gilgamesh is much slower, his FTL Noble Phantasm uses jump drives to travel, so it's essentially a teleport and only useful for space travel. It's useless in a fight.

Gilgamesh ain't even a planet buster, much less multiversal. And Sha Naqba Imuru does nothing for Gil's lackluster H2H combat skills and abilities. At most it would tell him about the weaknesses and strengths of his opponents and other such info. Which he would then be too slow to properly put in application.

And even if he wasn't, a casual ki blast from any of the DB side would destroy most of the contents in the Gate of Babylon.

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#12  Edited By zgtfreak

@garbs: I like how you literally got destroyed on CCC Gilgamesh being planetary to the point you asked for direct a link to a statement about something, trying to call my bluff; then I send the exact statement and you go silent and never reply again. Then you secretly slither onto other threads to say the same crap that got horrendously debunked. Space Battles is outdated. Go back there if you wish.

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What feats does Gil have? Last time I checked fate/stay night didnt have good feats, let alone feats that put them on DBH level.

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@mattyboi said:

What feats does Gil have? Last time I checked fate/stay night didnt have good feats, let alone feats that put them on DBH level.

I think CCC is a game.

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Gilgamesh stomps these fodders

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Gilgamesh destroys all of them, he casually throws galaxies around, the others have never done anything close to that, although in an actual scenario Xeno Goku and Gilgamesh would most likely have a small sparring and then team up against the other two.

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@syncroniam: Timer breaker Goku Black scythe was able to ripped time and space across numerous times lines to the point where it reach the heart of the Multiverse and the GT universe.

Characters weeker thanxeno Goku like punished Zamasu was able to survive the Eraser of a timeline consisting of a dozen universes from Zeno. or Xenoverse Zamasu was able to sirvive multiversal erasing hacks that transcended hundreds of timelines and thousands of universes possibly infinite depending on how you want to roll with things.

When Time breaker Baradock fought Mira in xenoverse in the crack of time the resulting battle destroyed numerous timelines.

Mira was later able to absorb the entire energy from of Toki Toki ehg. when it hatches its supposed to reduce a big bang capable of creating a new timeline consisting of a dozen universes.

throwing around galaxies is literally nothing. Then again it's obviously not a Galaxy considering how small it is is like saying that Goku's aura when fighting jiren is galaxy level.

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Based on the respect thread linked in #16, Gilgamesh gets stomped.

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Gil blinks

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@antonio_1996:

I think you have trouble reading or understanding that respect thread.

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db fans gonna db fan. CCC gilgamesh solos the verse

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@swagpack: Sorry I made a typo. I wanted to say "Goku gets stomped". Edited my comment.

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Gil laughs at the entire verse

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#27  Edited By etriel

We still live in a society, where ripping space-time = poofing space-time according to ill informed debaters. I mean for god's sake, every forum is making this same mistake.

It appears to be a pattern that Goku debaters and Marvel debaters use the same type of arguments. Muh conventional strength bullshit.

Let me give you an analogy, which method of closing a program in a computer is superior in potency? Uninstalling the program? (Reality Warping) or just destroying the Hardware and melting it in Lava? (Concept Warping).

And Gilgamesh wields the potency to deny and play with Non-existing, beyond-reality, Thought Space that conceptually shadow casts the forms of causality, shape, boundary, height and width and depth of Ascending, 8-Dimensional Space? The same way my body's shape and form narrates my shadow's shape and form? His reach extends deeper.

Causality ripping attacks are impressive, since Time is completely conceptual, it ignores conventional power, but if you are only ripping it instead of poofing it like Mxy did, you are gonna have a bad time.

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#28  Edited By chasekilleen

@antonio_1996

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/gilgamesh-fateextra-ccc-respect-thread-1984736/

Goku would get demolished.

Gilgamesh (base form) feats (summarized)

Power: Universal to possibly 5-D or 7-D (BB's universal attack was not just going to destroy a universe, but a universe in a higher dimension/the Far Side, while Gilgamesh didn't seem concerned or impressed).

Speed: Possibly infinite (exist in the Far Side and seemed ready to challenge base BB, who put herself in unlimited time).

Gilgamesh's (Genesis Mystic Form) feats (summarized form)

Power: Possibly Infinite multiversal level to two infinite multiverses (counting the Infinite Chimeric Lunar Sea); most likely far far higher as he is 8-D since he scales to Moon Cell BB (depends on how you want to view higher dimensions in the Nasuverse).

Speed: Beyond the concept of time (is on the same level of existence as Moon Cell BB, who can view and handle the past, present, and future at once like a book).

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Goku solos the verse. We've been over this. Gil can't even bust a planet.

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The team wins tbh as we know their multiverse has infinite timelines aswell and they also have higher dimensions such as the crack of time and the real world which looks down upon the multiverse as a piece of fiction was also going to be destroyed by chamel etc...

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#31  Edited By zgtfreak

@titansmcrough: It can take an infinite number of paths, meaning it isn't already infinite.

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Flamebait

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#33 johnsmjs36  Online

@bossmountain: Dude Zamasu had immortality than in DBverse only zeno had answer to. Scaling durability from him just because the other character is stronger is like saying Deadpool can survive this so Iron Man should too.

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I know where this thread is going...

OT: Gil stomps

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#35  Edited By Bossmountain

@johnsmjs36:

this was proven false in the Dragon Ball Heroes anime when God Slayer heart was able to completely obliterated Punished Zamasu (the guy who survived a timeline collapse) yet his attacks wasn't able to complete the obliterate characters like CC Goku or Xeno Jiren, Xeno hit . Or even Dragon Ball Heroes Piccolo or 17.

While his immortality does help with to regenerate he is not more durable than the likes of CC Goku and Xeno Jiren.

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@zgtfreak: Wait what xeno goku can be scaled to high complex multiversal!!

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50000000 x million omnipotent comicvine Gilgamesh wins becuz of "deep conceptual manipulation"

Lmao

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@titansmcrough: One: VS Battles is a joke, and two: no one in DB can even reach infinite power.

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@zgtfreak: goku xeno base would already defeat gil first let's go to dragon ball cosmology so you don't get lost The Deadly Universe is the realm of reality in which Goku lives. Jaco is said to contain numerous Milky Way-like galaxies, with Jaco being a space-savvy spaceman: https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/13/Calc_1.jpg/revision/latest? cb = 20151127214856

The episode from where the scene is Jaco is episode 31, if anyone wants to see it for themselves, skip to 5:00

Daizenshuu 7 states that galaxies exist infinitely throughout the universe, saying that there are an infinite amount of galaxies:

https://i.imgur.com/va2sLhi.png

http://www.magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/images/07-036-a.gif

https://imgur.com/a/A0Vdq

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/0/03/Received_1518754101546178.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20171121043345

Finally, the universe is a space of "infinite expansion".

To recap the Mortal Universe is based on ours, which means physics, stars, similar cosmic phenomena, and so on. and contains an infinite amount of galaxies, many of which are as large as the Milky Way in infinitely expansive space.

Dragon Ball is infinite. By the theory of how the universes are constructed are supported by the "bubble theory"

Mira exists completely outside the concepts of time ...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102323/4934782-dragon-ball-super-6577987.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102323/4934783-dragon-ball-super-6577993.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/102323/4934785-dragon-ball-super-6577999.jpg

There are 12 other macrocosms

As we all know, they don't all share the same spacetime: timeline ...

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/94c19f851dedd6bf0d53718773503d1f9f174f0ar1-515-545v2_hq.jpg

Timeline = / = 4th dimension for some fictions, especially Dragon Ball. History itself exists as a parallel world

https://uploads.spiritfanfiction.com/fanfics/capitulos/201809/dragon-ball-super--saga-kierehn-14387332-250920181035.jpg

realm of zeno is infinitely above the conventional universes that are infinite

The space between the universes; not as described by the world of Zeno.

The space between universes is on a 5-D axis.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/6c0a1c6bac61f5340d7fd856c9463cbb8c0486cdr1-1409-793v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/8923ca840847c1635d09cb34f83517a90f481892r1-1200-675v2_hq.jpg

As seen in the zeno world, universes are viewed from another perspective. This world is possibly infinitely larger than the previous macrocosm.

It exists outside the multiverse and contains no time or space - but for space it is likely to refer to general 3D space / matter. At least before the high priest implemented matter within the kingdom before setting rules.

summary there are infinite universes in dragon ball and each one has 5d dimensions ie infinite 5d constructions

This image shows that the space between the timelines would also exist on a different dimensional axis.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d0be3f83400c04f7724ee0c69caed66df349307ar1-400-221v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/02388cd8f25d7dbcbd3f5d8d8055d3c01ea115bfr1-402-308v2_hq.jpg

The time machine does not travel in time but out of time in parallel worlds. The space between the timelines.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/00ee7b35fc0b3b58b05ac666a64c41435951c343r1-400-202v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b4a8daa72ec7447cae3d40e6b158844c86c0454cr1-305-383v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/328ce6032eaf195fb697645e1947b8b2bbd2c3aar1-670-461v2_hq.jpg

SUPER TIME! Since they already have separate spacetime continuos, it's fiction and not everything aligns with comic vine or vs wiki.

The story is endless: https: //pm1.narvii.com/7165/40a080a9a1045434834736e8396add0df65ce23ar1-640-360v2_hq.jpg

Xenoverse scenes will be transferred to Heros, just as Heros loads Xenoverse events.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/c0853c3f032a0e72c2b28162e535ffe1f163163dr1-619-408v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/86abc295c8773ba1408e07c976e3e427ff1ee60br1-808-738v2_hq.jpg

- Demigra can create and destroy infinite timelines, which can be from the 7th dimension after all the dragonball cosmololgia and spawned by an infinite universe 4d realm an infinite 5d transcends infinite, as time and history are infinite, and the past, present and future are infinite.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/0785303c2005f74156da3a22393eabd900cc82d8r1-732-215v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/4e2cd053ffd580cffd513dd6f58c55c50c5186bcr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f03a6baa8d3d843a5f7ea585769caaf0d1d3519dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/487572d65dca9230e5668a8f985ad450800a1073r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/39730a90b65dd1be0f37045d02167812aff083e2r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d69e0470c8c6ab2982bd2fdadb2d95291224d74br1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/df8e967a2b0d93ef38fb15da40edfba039e39ef6r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/79eecd556a8f9a0f0cf470d62235a2454e45837dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e0c9a42edffa7fcd32e9a4b47ed7dfea49ad8d92r1-808-465v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/f5361a0ba0032e4b3dcb48d65f20566e3727a11er1-741-160v2_hq.jpg

well, the time vault is on a 7th or 8th dimension axis - and the Crack of time

If you have ever played Xenoverse 2, you know that at the end of the game it is revealed to the player that the fight of Bardock and Mira has cracked all the timelines ... if you don't know there are endless timelines and every single line. of time there are universes. This feat does anything in Dragon Ball Super, child's play.

https://pm1.narvii.com/6771/d881abd5a2b8d800b7c8ebc3371677e3f88d036dv2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3f76bbd65929c28c504809cae27ef51639da021ar1-1159-493v2_hq.jpg

Extra Dimensional huh ...

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/4778da53ee7223ecaa1e5c74a1240bac9c598a7fr1-480-141v2_hq.jpg

Remember that Demigra can not only destroy infinite Super Timelines, but also Time Nest, Crack of Time, and recreate infinite history. How do we know?

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d6a8cbdde105b13977480a5028503bbd538a8a27r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/22803ec9700fbf82e8d5db167898d2ff7fdd4e16r1-780-612v2_hq.jpg

Also, if there is a "void world" in each story, a plane that can theoretically fit Infinite objects 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D 5d 6d, or 7 and 8d after all there are infinite universes and each has a void world one dimension at a time. least 5 of or more after all there is no time or space in it.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/55098339606f3e182190dd96bdd023e394b99dffr1-602-338v2_hq.jpg

After all, it is OUT of the Multiverse, and has no "time" or "MATTER" in its existence. "The Void World (Mu no Kai?) Is a realm without time and space."

kingdom of demons is a kingdom superior to the multiverse of heroes being a higher dime

The real world / higher dimensions

we know the shonen jump contains no dbh verse

The real world for those who haven't played the game yet is represented by "Beat". Most consider Hero to be a parallel world to the world of Dragon Ball, but the truth is that Dragon Ball Heros is just a card game. "Example, we three-dimensional beings see two-dimensional beings almost as fiction."

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/ce1c6f2b0e5ea5143e27eb7a30487a70116981fer1-1920-1080v2_hq.jpg

That is, he is above them and sees them as fiction + shonen jump.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b62f89aa62c0985456d4b7d66f2ee83f769580c9r1-784-474v2_hq.jpg

DBH exists, but is still separate from them.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/cd9447494d2ea022bc6b83d86153b7a3984f329cr1-1057-1518v2_hq.jpg

Not only threatened the real world, but the real world universe ...

Once again ... it's just a game for them-

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/16ed3173d7470ae291e9c31aba8da99c4a9ca346r1-1057-1518v2_hq.jpg

Again you have to TRANSCEND to win the world

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/31bf6b388e45fb10440a198206e479e44970584dr1-500-336v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/03e41f857a32c11e6ba3416fc7011c8f7ecacf09r1-480-269v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/8b87f8bf475c32e321b921376029d9cccb6c05car1-480-375v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/27b6706b2b457633ba6a8b396849d17baadc498ar1-405-727v2_hq.jpg

Real World = 12 Spatial Dimensions / M-theory.

Establishing this is the real world.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/21ae62499d304c6afa9f4bf6cf46371db99dd7a7r1-1063-538v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/45fe75fc12b6826961fbb95a0a0c35a2e7c592bar1-400-225v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/a45dbe5e586e33b1fb99fdac7f8e8015edeaf702r1-1074-527v2_hq.jpg

more wait is not only that goku xeno can also destroy jonen jump?

first let's go to the deeds the super dragon ball universe is directly connected shonen junp multiverse

remembering that joining jump comten several verses like medaka box and saint saiya

ie if goku xeno succeeds in destroying jonen jump he isomatically destroying the verse of medaka and saint seiya naruto one piece and gintama bastard others ie he would be put on a scale above cosmic beings more and of course we will not consider why would be a stomp and could also be hard to quantify its power remembering that arale is in the dbs universe remembering that it has 4 wall power

The idea is that God Broly was so strong that he required Son-Goku to completely break the fourth wall and interact with the audience. Since this is a live event, it means "You" + "Me" as in real viewers. (After all, he has no difficulty Broly just merging with the girl Similar to Como:

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/7b43d773928473adaf5335406e9bb1562595d372r1-739-229v2_hq.jpg

12-Dimensional via M theory, stating that our real world was in danger of being destroyed out of existence of course again we will disregard

Again, we always have the argument that Demigra is beyond all space - and all time. We know they can exist within space that doesn't exist, but again:

The presentation here is to establish that Dragon Ball Heros with all its continuity, knowledge and expansion of an infinite Multiverse / Xenoverse + Real World Hierarchy.

Probably this is accurate based on superstring theory, temporal dimensional actions + spatial existences

https://imgur.com/a/xrNRr

https://i.imgur.com/AAx6cXJ.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/1Ck1ozL.png

https://imgur.com/3a7NZ8i

https://i.imgur.com/P8vJLfx.png

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/d/de/Chronoa4.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20190204184020&format=original

https://i.imgur.com/3Jr3aEg.png

https://i.imgur.com/8XjxrvB.png

https://i.imgur.com/Qr9IQ2U.png

https://i.imgur.com/MWUpRaD.png

https://i.imgur.com/t9KVmfi.png

https://i.imgur.com/KNanu3c.png

https://i.imgur.com/lSAWRjn.png

https://i.imgur.com/73tMPuB.png

https://i.imgur.com/CHjpYWR.png

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/xeno-goku-dragon-ball-xenoverse-vs-super-tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-ttgl.770267/page-3#lg=_xfUid-1-1571507408&slide= 0

https://pm1.narvii.com/6946/f296b76c86e5843f5623e94c982997c6f04ef9a7r1-1334-750v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6946/73766fbcea60644620f8da054773a05c916cb908r1-1334-750v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6946/be653a5d20dccd00948070902900944be1e6b467r1-750-547v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6946/39ccadf7164afb5095fc2e50800cbd48b203589dr1-1334-750v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6950/9f961022ffa7585ba1587580cfb78d41ad78c100r1-1800-1625v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6950/d769d827fed59246b6ae5dc0c43ab27d37cd614dr1-1536-1407v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6950/c556861c80e0fffbec5165b1411154a6cb4a6bb9r1-1107-1605v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/6950/414d5d5f4d5e9617ce272d6f7bdc7fb687f32788r1-1483-1457v2_hq.jpg

VERDICT!

goku xeno: force 8d or 12d if we disregard various achievements

gil strength: 8d or 7d

xeno goku:

speed surpasses the concept of space time

gil speed: infinite

goku xeno: unknown resistance

gil: unknown resistance

serious stomp goku xeno

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Xeno Goku compound is a fan invention I don't see no reason to discuss a fanfic version of any character.( this powerscalle is a shame)

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#41  Edited By zgtfreak

@thelordofdarklight: goku xeno base would already defeat gil

Gil blinks his verse out of existence. Oh am I going to have fun with this.

first let's go to dragon ball cosmology so you don't get lost The Deadly Universe is the realm of reality in which Goku lives. Jaco is said to contain numerous Milky Way-like galaxies, with Jaco being a space-savvy spaceman: https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/1/13/Calc_1.jpg/revision/latest? cb = 20151127214856

> Brings up galaxies in an attempt to argue that Goku can beat Gilgamesh. lol

Daizenshuu 7 states that galaxies exist infinitely throughout the universe, saying that there are an infinite amount of galaxies:

Hyberbole. Your previous scan states that there is a center of the universe. There can't be a center if it's infinite. Hell, your last scan here states that the universe is divided into four sections, and that Earth exist on the outskirts of the North Quadrant, which means that those four quadrants that make up the universe is finite. Otherwise, there would be no outskirts.

Mira exists completely outside the concepts of time ...

He exist outside of physical time that can be overpowered by raw physical strength. An example being Hit's time hax being overpowered.

There are 12 other macrocosms

As we all know, they don't all share the same spacetime: timeline ...

And?

Timeline = / = 4th dimension for some fictions, especially Dragon Ball. History itself exists as a parallel world

There is no difference in power between temporal 4-D and physical 3-D.

realm of zeno is infinitely above the conventional universes that are infinite

The space between the universes; not as described by the world of Zeno.

The space between universes is on a 5-D axis.

Never stated. And the links you sent have all been 404'ed.

As seen in the zeno world, universes are viewed from another perspective. This world is possibly infinitely larger than the previous macrocosm.

You mean Zeno playing a board game? Nothing states that that was even real. lmao

It exists outside the multiverse and contains no time or space - but for space it is likely to refer to general 3D space / matter. At least before the high priest implemented matter within the kingdom before setting rules.

Never stated or remotely implied.

summary there are infinite universes in dragon ball and each one has 5d dimensions ie infinite 5d constructions

Nope.

This image shows that the space between the timelines would also exist on a different dimensional axis.

That's irrelevant to volume/power/infinitely higher dimensions. And your links are all 404'ed here too.

The time machine does not travel in time but out of time in parallel worlds. The space between the timelines.

And how is this impressive to Gilgamesh? And your links are all 404'ed here too.

The story is endless:

Hyperbole and horribly bias and unfounded extrapolation on your part.

- Demigra can create and destroy infinite timelines, which can be from the 7th dimension after all the dragonball cosmololgia and spawned by an infinite universe 4d realm an infinite 5d transcends infinite, as time and history are infinite, and the past, present and future are infinite.

There are not infinite timelines, as timelines are being created due to manual changes being made by time travelers; and the Time Patrol are trying to correct those timelines anyways. So the timelines aren't even rapidly multiplying since they are being corrected. If anything, the amount of timelines are decreasing due to corrections. Higher dimensions infinitely above lower? What a joke.

well, the time vault is on a 7th or 8th dimension axis - and the Crack of time

Headcanon. Even though your links are 404'ed, I've played Xenoverse 1 more than anyone here, and have played Trashy Xenoverse 2 enough times as well; and I can confirm that none of the stuff you are claiming has ever been even remotely hinted at. Prove me wrong. Send me actual working links.

If you have ever played Xenoverse 2, you know that at the end of the game it is revealed to the player that the fight of Bardock and Mira has cracked all the timelines ... if you don't know there are endless timelines and every single line. of time there are universes. This feat does anything in Dragon Ball Super, child's play.

Again, there are not infinite timelines, as timelines are being created due to manual changes being made by time travelers; and the Time Patrol are trying to correct those timelines anyways. So the timelines aren't even rapidly multiplying since they are being corrected. If anything, the amount of timelines are decreasing due to corrections. What you are saying is complete headcanon that never has been stated anywhere.

Extra Dimensional huh ...

Extra-dimensional is not higher-dimensional. And higher dimensions work entirely different from fiction to fiction. Hell, most higher dimensions in fiction aren't even infinitely above lower. You need confirmation that higher dimensions are infinitely above lower, in what way, are they physical dimensions, or conceptual, ect.

Also, if there is a "void world" in each story, a plane that can theoretically fit Infinite objects 1D, 2D, 3D, 4D 5d 6d, or 7 and 8d after all there are infinite universes and each has a void world one dimension at a time. least 5 of or more after all there is no time or space in it.

That's not how the dimensions you are arguing for work even remotely. LOL And the World of Void is stated to be eternal nothingness. It's not an infinite sized dimension.

After all, it is OUT of the Multiverse, and has no "time" or "MATTER" in its existence. "The Void World (Mu no Kai?) Is a realm without time and space."

How time works is relative to the fiction using it. Time in DB is physical and can be bypassed by raw physical power. Gil lives in a conceptual void of nil and fights with omnipresent entities that exist throughout all of time on a conceptual level.

kingdom of demons is a kingdom superior to the multiverse of heroes being a higher dime

The real world / higher dimensions

we know the shonen jump contains no dbh verse

The real world for those who haven't played the game yet is represented by "Beat". Most consider Hero to be a parallel world to the world of Dragon Ball, but the truth is that Dragon Ball Heros is just a card game. "Example, we three-dimensional beings see two-dimensional beings almost as fiction."

The real world is just another reality. It's not a higher realm that makes DB fiction in comparison. Otherwise, DB characters couldn't go there and stomp on everyone. Also more 404 links.

Not only threatened the real world, but the real world universe ...

Once again ... it's just a game for them-

Then why are they in danger from these mere fictional characters? You debunked yourself

Again you have to TRANSCEND to win the world

Transcend needs context. Also more 404. Learn what you're doing before posting.

Real World = 12 Spatial Dimensions / M-theory.

M-theory? lmao Higher dimensions in M-theory aren't infinitely above lower dimensions. Higher dimensions in M-theory merely add more complex possibilities/timelines to one single infinite multiverse. The higher the dimension, the more complex the possibilities there are. It has nothing to do with higher dimensions being infinitely above lower ones. And not every fiction uses dimensions in the same way. You have to prove that a fiction even uses M-theory, to which DB does not. (Oh, and M-theory has 11 dimensions, not 12.)

first let's go to the deeds the super dragon ball universe is directly connected shonen junp multiverse

remembering that joining jump comten several verses like medaka box and saint saiya

ie if goku xeno succeeds in destroying jonen jump he isomatically destroying the verse of medaka and saint seiya naruto one piece and gintama bastard others ie he would be put on a scale above cosmic beings more and of course we will not consider why would be a stomp and could also be hard to quantify its power remembering that arale is in the dbs universe remembering that it has 4 wall power

Metafiction garbage. DBH does not contain other copyrighted fictions. This doesn't even need to be addressed. Also, the combined might of every shounen series is irrelevant and powerless before Gilgamesh. So even this isn't helping you.

The idea is that God Broly was so strong that he required Son-Goku to completely break the fourth wall and interact with the audience. Since this is a live event, it means "You" + "Me" as in real viewers. (After all, he has no difficulty Broly just merging with the girl Similar to Como

Goku Vs. Battler Ushiromiya PTSD.

Goku Vs. Battler Ushiromiya PTSD.

Goku Vs. Battler Ushiromiya PTSD.

No. Drawing power from the REAL WORLD (meaning us) is impossible. He is scripted by the writer to gather energy, regardless of if the audience was even there or not. The end.

12-Dimensional via M theory, stating that our real world was in danger of being destroyed out of existence of course again we will disregard

M-theory is fodder. And if you think fictional characters can harm us, you need help.

Probably this is accurate based on superstring theory, temporal dimensional actions + spatial existences

None of what you sent confirmed any of that. What? LOL And you have no idea how String Theory works (as evident in your post).

VERDICT!

goku xeno: force 8d or 12d if we disregard various achievements

gil strength: 8d or 7d

xeno goku:

speed surpasses the concept of space time

gil speed: infinite

goku xeno: unknown resistance

gil: unknown resistance

serious stomp goku xeno

VERDICT!

Xeno Goku is finite multiversal.

Gilgamesh is at least infinite multiversal even in his base form. (Read RT for most of his stuff.)

Even if Goku was 12-D physically, the dimensions Gilgamesh transcends are conceptual in nature and treat the dimension below it as fiction. That is far beyond mere physical spatial dimensions.

Goku has no feats of harming or tanking attacks from conceptual entities.

Even base Gilgamesh is faster. Time can be overpowered in DB. Existing without it in DB is meaningless. Base Gilgamesh's speed is probably beyond time since he can move in the conceptual nil space void of the Far Side that can't simply be overpowered.

Gilgamesh is superior to everyone from DB in H2H combat via the nigh-omniscience SNI grants him.

His strikes alone can harm and kill conceptual entities. So one punch from him is erasing Goku's concept out of existence.

He overrides conceptual laws.

As Etriel said:

Let me give you an analogy, which method of closing a program in a computer is superior in potency? Uninstalling the program? (Reality Warping) or just destroying the Hardware and melting it in Lava? (Concept Warping).

And Gilgamesh wields the potency to deny and play with Non-existing, beyond-reality, Thought Space that conceptually shadow casts the forms of causality, shape, boundary, height and width and depth

His reach extends deeper.

Gilgamesh wills DB and the rest of the Shounen Jump series to die.

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@zgtfreak: seriously you talk about hyperbole what a ridiculous first thing to understand in the dragon ball universe there are infinite galaxies affirmed in kaizenchu ​​ie it is impossible to deny that the universes are infinite the bubble theory dis that the universes are in eternal espionage plus the kingdom do zeno a 4d place https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQHjdBm2zTmrN7LFi6IkR9xbszrd9-cnVJHcA_mMcd2F5Nr3F8A the world of emptiness is a 5d dimension after all and infinitely larger than the realm of zeno stop using argumentative fallacies or ignoring facts there are infinite 5d dimensions in the dbh multiverse ie 6d crack time and a higher dimension ie 7d real world dimension higher ie 8d to 12d if we consider the super string theory what exactly you can't understand you talk about hyper bole but gil you ignore facts and use the classic argument "this link is broken" and use hyper bole that's sad

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@zgtfreak: >There can't be a center if it's infinite

Wouldn't every point be the center in that case?

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@gabrielthelord: Everything you just said is headcanon garbage that I've already debunked.

@zgtfreak: >There can't be a center if it's infinite

Wouldn't every point be the center in that case?

You can interpret it either way. Regardless, you wouldn't need to get to the center if there is none or everywhere is already the center.

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@zgtfreak: Wait i don't get your point here nobody needs infinite powers to be complex multiversal level if that's what you were referring to.

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@zgtfreak: Actually the guy above have made a lot of sense you have not debunked any of his points.

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@zgtfreak: first evidence that the universe of fate has temporal space dimensions

first xeno goku on several occasions has already surpassed space and time

he overcame a superior dimensional space

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/b/b3/6A45C00B-A5D9-47CF-A329-CBDFA6ED62EC.png/revision/latest?cb=20191017233030

extra + dimensions

Theory of World Quantum Mechanics, where "many different futures are created in the smallest things."

https://imgur.com/a/0FNKN

also based on the theory of the universe in bubbles that say the universes spread infinitely

overcoming time / space again and controlling it and overcome

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/6/61/Beyong_space_and_time.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181225022042

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/8/87/Time_space_god.png/revision/latest?cb=20160421033950

The Kingdom of Demons is out of time

https://imgur.com/a/0nxM2

Not part of the story

The kingdom of demons is out of the flow of time

let's talk about

Also, destructive capability = / = range of motion = / = being dimensional.

An example of a 4th dimensional being / that does not have a three-dimensional body but an abstract 4th dimensional existence across the entire timeline + sp

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/16d77dabc29202c418c47836d22edab0d735c362r1-455-323v2_hq.jpg

Destroying all three dimensional matter and fourth dimensional spatial motion

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3e7814c9ce3841619c913d710099b3ffe38d8877r1-480-360v2_hq.jpg

Being able to move on a temporal axis even though your physical body exists on a three dimensional plane. Goku and Vegeta survived out of time - but still

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e691e1484da36f02d9342a70641e44cd8d36a19cr1-853-480v2_hq.jpg

Macrocosmo

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/2937de432f49455e86410ee5224fc40401176ee8r1-600-400v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/88403c2291a73bbf25b0c01c762a7d170390caa1r1-800-450v2_hq.jpg

As we all know, they don't all share the same spacetime: timeline ...

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/94c19f851dedd6bf0d53718773503d1f9f174f0ar1-515-545v2_hq.jpg

they share the same timeline.

Timeline = / = 4th dimension for some fictions, especially Dragon Ball. History itself exists as a parallel world. But we'll get into that later.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/6c0a1c6bac61f5340d7fd856c9463cbb8c0486cdr1-1409-793v2_hq.jpg

The space between the universes; not as described by the world of Zeno.

The space between universes is on a 5-D axis.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/6c0a1c6bac61f5340d7fd856c9463cbb8c0486cdr1-1409-793v2_hq.jpg

As seen in the zeno world, universes are viewed from another perspective. This world is possibly infinitely larger than the previous macrocosm.

this is irrefutable and there are also infinite galaxies in each universe

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/8923ca840847c1635d09cb34f83517a90f481892r1-1200-675v2_hq.jpg

https://aminoapps.com/c/join-the-battle/page/blog/dragon-ball-heros-xeno-goku-beyond-5th-dimensional/YYvb_jrSbuL7V5lkldY8wqYdVaxJrqXP1

It exists outside the multiverse and contains no time or space - but for space it is likely to refer to general 3D space / matter. At least before the high priest implemented matter within the kingdom before setting rules.

Not much to say but God Toppo destroy the kingdom; demonstrating its huge 3D spatial variety being infinite. But no one destroyed the kingdom itself.

This image shows that the space between the timelines would also exist on a different dimensional axis.

https://aminoapps.com/c/join-the-battle/page/blog/dragon-ball-heros-xeno-goku-beyond-5th-dimensional/YYvb_jrSbuL7V5lkldY8wqYdVaxJrqXP1

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d0be3f83400c04f7724ee0c69caed66df349307ar1-400-221v2_hq.jpg

Pilaf is probably referring to temporal / spatial dimensions in this context.

The time machine does not travel in time but out of time in parallel worlds. The space between the timelines.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/00ee7b35fc0b3b58b05ac666a64c41435951c343r1-400-202v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/b4a8daa72ec7447cae3d40e6b158844c86c0454cr1-305-383v2_hq.jpg

Parallel worlds are schedules

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/328ce6032eaf195fb697645e1947b8b2bbd2c3aar1-670-461v2_hq.jpg

SUPER TIME! Since they already have separate spacetime continuos

The story is endless

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/40a080a9a1045434834736e8396add0df65ce23ar1-640-360v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/c0853c3f032a0e72c2b28162e535ffe1f163163dr1-619-408v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/86abc295c8773ba1408e07c976e3e427ff1ee60br1-808-738v2_hq.jpg

Demigra can create and destroy infinite timelines, which can be of the 4th dimension. Trans-infinite, as time and history are infinite, and past, present, and future are infinite.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/0785303c2005f74156da3a22393eabd900cc82d8r1-732-215v2_hq.jpg

Crack of Time is another dimension / Reality - The real totality of the 5th dimension and the Multiverse.

As we know, the time machine cannot move through time.

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/d69e0470c8c6ab2982bd2fdadb2d95291224d74br1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/df8e967a2b0d93ef38fb15da40edfba039e39ef6r1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/79eecd556a8f9a0f0cf470d62235a2454e45837dr1-854-480v2_hq.jpg

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/e0c9a42edffa7fcd32e9a4b47ed7dfea49ad8d92r1-808-465v2_hq.jpg

Hmmm ... infinite number of space time continuum in 5 dimensions?

https://pm1.narvii.com/7165/3f76bbd65929c28c504809cae27ef51639da021ar1-1159-493v2_hq.jpg

how close is he to the 6th dimension?

Remember that Demigra can not only destroy infinite Super Timelines, but also Time Nest, Crack of Time and recreate infinite history. How do we know?