Base Aizen vs Post-RG Renji & Rukia

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Shinigami Aizen vs Rukia and Renji post-Royal Realm training

Win by death

Random Encounter

Staring Distance is 100 metres

Rukia starts with Shikai, but can go Bankai

Restrictions: Kyoka Suigetsu

Fake Karakura Town

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Their only shot is Rukia's bankai. Due to the nature of her bankai, Aizen cant block or avoid it. If hit hits him he's finished. The problem, however, is that Hakka no Tagame has a very big blast radius. Theoretically Rukia can one shot Aizen, but she may also lose Renji.

Aizen loses. Bankai Renji can handle Aizen's raw power and Rukia has the hax to one-shot Aizen either by contact or from a distance.

Aizen as a shinigami loses.

This, though since Renji is there I don't see Rukai pulling her Bankai so easily which is why Aizen wins

I don't see why Aizen wouldn't respond to Rukia with Kido, which I don't see her dodging well in her brittle state. Aizen's alot smarter than Renji and far more experienced, so he'd probably beat Renji up 1v1, though he'd probably get some respectable shots in.

Rukia hates aizen, she'll go bankai and freeze the shit out of him.

she has the radius to hit him even if she's misdirected.

She may kill renji, but who cares.

Well, she would probably give Renji pre warning before she does it.

Since when was Rukia under the impression that she was fighting Aizen? *gets impaled in the chest*

Rukia can solo. Rukia's bankai is hax and is essentially an absolute zero nuke. There is really nothing Aizen can do defend against. Its an insta kill. All she has do is flash step in front of him and say BANKAI and its over. Aizen's speed is is useless. When he goes to hit her, she activates her Bankai and its over.

Team 2 stomp

@thegreatuniter: "Rukia's bankai is hax and is essentially an absolute zero nuke"

...w..what? No....not even remotely close...

Its a bankai that instant freezes everything within it's proximity to absolute Zero temperatures. There is no surviving hit.

@thegreatuniter: @thegreatuniter:

1. How is it in any way comparable to a nuke? It doesn't even cover 2/20th of the area a small one would..

2. Absolute zero is attained by removing ALL movement energy from a system. If a single fly is buzzing in the upper atmosphere on the opposite side of the planet, then NOTHING on the planet is absolute zero (unless contained in an electromagnetic field), because those vibrations disperse in the air and through the planet, adding an infinitismally small amount of energy to the surrounding matter. Even atomic motion stops at AZ.

3. Rukia's Bankai makes herself and her sword AZ (somehow allowing her to move, as well, which is impossible). This can freeze the area around her, but it does not make that AZ as well or else literally all of SS and whatever is beyond would freeze in an unstoppable chain reaction. In order to make an object AZ, it must be infinitely cold/motionless in the same sense that a black hole has to have infinite mass.

4. You're right, Aizen likely would not survive a direct hit from her sword...but given Bleach characters love to explain what they're doing and given Aizen's perception, it'd be pretty obvious he should just stay back and cast kurohitsugi or some other ranged kido. It's not like she's going to dodge anything particulatly quickly when such an action could shake her concentration and shatter her lol.

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Any reasons

Without KS base Aizen has very little showings

Without KS I don't see him winning.

How serious is Aizen for this fight? Even without using KS, Aizen stomped 4 captains in about 10 seconds. I don't think a 100% serious Aizen would give Rukia enough time to use bankai, and I doubt Renji's bankai would fare much better than Komamura's bankai, whose sword Aizen blocked and broke without much effort. Aizen is far faster than either team member, and he has enough power with kidou to handle them at range if need be.

1. You're getting a little technical for a metaphor. ._.

2. So you can't accept her as Absolute 0 unless Soul Society was destroyed by her going Bankai? That's almost like people saying DBZ aren't planetbusters because Goku and Beerus had their fight without destroying a planet. Iceman turns things to absolute 0 without ill effect, it's called PIS. Earth being frozen would be bad for the story, you know?

3. Her SHIKAI made her and the sword Absolute 0. Her BANKAI lets her turn OTHER THINGS to Absolute 0.

4. When was it stated that her concentration affected her form? It's just that she has to melt slowly.

@jeepeh:

1. It seemed like a comparison to me, comparing it to a nuke in any way is a pretty big exaggeration...

2. I didn't say that....I said she and her sword are (In that state she also passively freezes other things in her aoe). And that's Bankai, not shikai.

3. Her Shikai brings her temperature below zero, to where she is technically dead. Her bankai is what brings her temperature to absolute zero.

4. She has 4 seconds before becoming immobile, then she has to "carefully" (I'd imagine that word implies concentration) bring her temperature back to normal. She was cracking from just standing still, I doubt she's game for a round of kido tag in that vulnerable state.

1. It looked like a white Mugetsu to me. o_o

2. We're talking about her Bankai, the only freezing to the outside world that her Shikai does without cutting things is cause Icequakes.

3. Her Shikai allows her to turn herself to Absolute 0 for 4 seconds. Her Bankai was never given a time limit. All her Bankai did was freeze As Nodt from a distance. I'm inclined to believe that the Absolute 0 of her Shikai is somehow restricted to staying on her sword, otherwise As Nodt would've have been able to break free. Her Bankai though, seems to allow her to freeze other things directly.

4. She was cracking when standing still because she was heating up too quickly. Like putting a cup of steaming hot tea into the refrigerator. The cup will shatter. Hence why Byakuya grabbed her hand and told her to slow down.

Also. Based on Shinji's statement on Reiatsu, Rukia and Renji could be transcendents. Which puts both of them far out of Base Aizen's league.

Aizen blitzes. Rukia has the potential to kill every single character in bleach, but aizen can kill her before she does. Renji doesn't have the speed feats to keep up either.

Mismatch, Aizen wins easily, without KS. With his Kido, I think he could defeat them without even touching them. He's too fast, too strong, and might deny Rukia's abilities.There is also a narrative reason.

Speed : Bankai Ichigo can block Gin's Bankai, the fastest Bankai. Bankai Ichigo + New Mask can't see anything against Aizen, even if he's faraway. Shunsui can't touch him either, even with an underhanded attack from behind, while he's fast enough to impress Yama and to avoid Stark's Cero Metralleta. Aizen also outspeeds everyone at the end. Therefore, Aizen can take down both Renji and Rukia before they can do anything, or at least Rukia (who is their only chance).

Strength : Aizen can destroy Komamura's Bankai with one single hit. Komamura isn't the most powerful shinigami, but in pure strength he might be the best after Kenpachi (and Yama of course). Yet, it's useless against Aizen. He also proved that he can stop and destroy Renji's Shikai barehanded. Even if you say that Renji powered-up since then, Aizen also easily handled Captain's Shikais with his bare hands. So Renji's fighting style would be useless.

Absolute Zero Denial : We saw with Soi Fon that even if Aizen was touched twice by Suzumebachi at the same spot, it didn't work, bacause his Reiatsu was too powerful, and could nullify Soi's abilities. It would be the same thing here, he wouldn't suffer from the absolute zero. At worse it would be (slightly) slowed down, and since he's way too fast from the beginning, it wouldn't change much.

Stamina : Even if Rukia can hit Aizen with her Bankai, remember that he just suffered moderate damages from the point blank Yamamoto's Hadou 96. I doubt Rukia's Bankai can match an ultimate sacrificial Hado from Shigekuni Yamamoto Genryuusai, especially if she got it recently and doesn't fully master it. If she could kill Aizen just with her Bankai, I don't know what they're waiting for, they should send her to save the world against the Elite SR and Yhwach by killing them in one shot with her nuke. How foolish xD.

Narrative Reason : We just saw that Aizen almost freed himself with only one key, all the other are sealed into Shunsui. It just shows how powerful and beyond the others he is. The Central 46 and Shunsui speculated that he would kill Shunsui, while he doesn't even have the Hougyoku powers anymore. And if he's released, it's because he's the only one remaining to be strong enough to stop Yhwach, the SR or replace the king. It has to be one of those 3 reasons, otherwise Shunsui would have never done that.

Do you think 2 Byakuya would beat Aizen, even if he couldn't use KS ? It's absurd. And Rukia and Renji are at best at Byakuya's level, since he has powered-up too. Even if we say that Rukia and Renji are at a regular Captain level, Aizen easily handled 7 of them, even without KS, including Shunsui.

Anyway, Aizen doesn't have the Hougyoku powers anymore, so we will see in a few chapters if he's weak enough to be defeated by Rukia and Renji, or if he will be as impressive and strong as ever.

Aizen is fused with the hogyouku hence his immortally

@gxrevolution96: Aizen is immortal because he was exposed to the Hougyoku. He shouldn't have his powers anymore because :

1 - We saw that he lost all his transformations.

2 - Ichigo and Urahara have a conversation about that, and they say Aizen was rejected by the Hougyoku, or secretly wished to lose his powers.

http://z.mfcdn.net/store/manga/9/48-422.0/compressed/fbleach_422_sleepyfans.15.jpg (we can also notice how dominant Ichigo thinks Aizen is. But of course, Renji and Rukia beat him haha)

Sorry for bumping a 2 years old thread, but Renji during his fight against Jackie stated that he trained all this 18 months to fight against opponents like Aizen. Going by this statement, it's quite clear that he alone from the Quincy Arc would destroy shinigami Aizen before Hogyoku. Rukia isn't even needed here.

FB arc Renji was FKT base Aizen level and Rukia was at the very least comparable to or stronger than his shikai based in their performances against Byakuya in the ZR arc (Which is canon btw, read CFYOW), and in TYBW, they were unimaginably stronger than their FB arc selves

Either of the team solo

CFYOW says Base Aizen (FKTArc) > TYBW Arc Byakuya > Renji and Rukia

Either should neg base aizen honestly

Both solo

Aizen stomps.

Base Aizen scales to around the same level as Base Yamamoto and slightly weaker than Base Kenpachi.

Rukia cant beat him even if she uses Bankai as Shikai BYakuya was already far above her

Renji on the other hand could win with Bankai as he scales to Bazz-B who manages to offset enough of Yamamoto flames to survive.

novel says Tokinada = Byakuya and Byakuya EOS > Renji > Rukia, Tokinada was confirm to posses far less reaitsu than Yamamoto and Aizen/Shinigami.

Rukia would stomp Shikai Aizen.

Aizen is easily the most overrated character in the HST

@raziel2014: Novels can't be used for scaling. Same novels have Kensei messing up >Renji level ppl with bankai. Yk that's BS as Kensei couldn't hurt Mask and Mask couldn't hurt Renji.

Yama is above Kenpachi and Aizen should be round about Kenpachi's level comparing Yoruichi and Kisuke. Renji would probably have a slight power edge in bankai... But this is Aizen.

Rukia is fodder here, she's more comparable to the vizard captains.

Aizen should still completely defeat those two

@allhellkingdox: Kisuke and Yoruichi is where base Aizen's level should be... As Nodt is pre training captain level. Almost any captain would be as strong as or stronger than he is by the 2nd invasion. Hell Shuhei could take out base Mask who was round about As Nodt's level. Shuhei is fodder to Kensei. Rukia beating As Nodt with ease doesn't mean much with ppl like Aizen in the picture