Barragan vs Six Paths of Pain

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#1  Edited By Gilateen

•Barragan Starts in Ressureccion

•In Character

•Chakra=Reiahsu

•Starting distance: 75ft

•Location: Hidden Rain Village

•No Knowledge/Prep

•Canon Feats Only

•Win by DEATH

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#2  Edited By SkySanji

Barragan in a mismatch only relevant Pain is the absorption path unfortunately he has a limit to how much he can absorb and that's IF he has the speed to react

Again Barragan in a mismatch.

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Barragan with relative ease.

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Barragan slaps.

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#5  Edited By SleepingSlaves

Respira would mean the end for Nagato and his Paths.

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Inb4 rabii and his mach 560 pain and Mach 50 espadas.

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Barragan stomps

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Barrgan stomps in base. Smh,off course gliteen made this thread

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Got Milk?.

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Inb4 rabii and his mach 560 pain and Mach 50 espadas.

I never said the paths were mach 560, I said a healthy Nagato is and we don't know how a healthy Nagato's speed compare with the SPOP. I also never said Espadas are mach 50, just you strawmaning me.

OT: Baragan gets blitzed and repeatedly smacked by the Deva Path who in not a top state managed to outspeed the Rasenshuriken that crossed the chibaku tensei in a second.

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>blitz

>smack

You do realize all this leads to instant death right?

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@godren said:

>blitz

>smack

You do realize all this leads to instant death right?

Not really, energies are equalized and there's a rule in the Bleach verse that if you have more reiatsu than your opponent you can suppress their techniques and powers. Pain who has enough chakra to wipe out cities and create multi-mountain sized Chibaku Tenseis would suppress Baragan's technique and repeatedly smack him.

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Pain is faster than the 9 tails, not sure if barragan can keep up with that sort of physical strength.

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Does this guy ever make sense in threads?

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@rabii99 said:
@godren said:

>blitz

>smack

You do realize all this leads to instant death right?

Not really, energies are equalized and there's a rule in the Bleach verse that if you have more reiatsu than your opponent you can suppress their techniques and powers. Pain who has enough chakra to wipe out cities and create multi-mountain sized Chibaku Tenseis would suppress Baragan's technique and repeatedly smack him.

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How do you equalize chakra and reiryoku when they have completely different properties? lol

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#17  Edited By Darthjhawk

You know I’m going to say Pain to be honest. The Deva Path is actually very uniquely suited to countering Respira. Which would be a game ended should the paths be unable to hurt him on their own. Barragan’s own arrogance would end up being his downfall once again.

You know I actually really like this fight. Good thread Gilateen.

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Aizen meant that he could suppress her techniques and powers by paralyzing her movements with his reiatsu, lol. If you actually paid any attention in bleach you would know that.

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@jonnyjhb8127: that’s not what Aizen meant.

He really did use his reiryoku to suppress her technique.

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I swear to God almost everyone on this site ever has made the most autistic claims I've ever seen.

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@jonnyjhb8127: that’s not what Aizen meant.

He really did use his reiryoku to suppress her technique.

LOL. I'm done.

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Does this guy ever make sense in threads?

No one whose ever participated in any thread on this shithole of a site has ever made much of any sense. So don't expect much of any of the claims being made to make any sense, lol.

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Probably Barragan due to the Respira.

@jonnyjhb8127:It's made pretty clear that he meant her technique wouldn't work due to his higher reiatsu, not because he froze her. She literally stabbed him twice already, it just isn't shown in the scan.

The only argument against that you can make is if it was an illusion all along.

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#25  Edited By Rabii99

@ourmanuel said:

Does this guy ever make sense in threads?

So no response to me debunking your attempt at strawmanning me? Ok, gotcha.

@jonnyjhb8127 said:

How do you equalize chakra and reiryoku when they have completely different properties? lol

Reiryoku and chakra aren't completely differrent. The former is spiritual energy while the latter is the combination of physical energy and spiritual energy. When two or more energies have different properties we try to assume a middle ground between the two.

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#27  Edited By jonnyjhb8127

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Probably Barragan due to the Respira.

@jonnyjhb8127:It's made pretty clear that he meant her technique wouldn't work due to his higher reiatsu, not because he froze her. She literally stabbed him twice already, it just isn't shown in the scan.

The only argument against that you can make is if it was an illusion all along.

You do realize that higher reiatsu physically freezes those with much less reiatsu, right? This was made painfully clear in the first arc of bleach on several occasions by feats and statements lol. Clearly he meant his reaitsu was physically slowing her movements, and nothing more.

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@jonnyjhb8127: except he clearly states right there “I’ll use my reiatsu to suppress your techniques and abilities”

He’s not talking about movement, which wouldn’t matter since she had already hit him twice.

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#29  Edited By jonnyjhb8127

@rabii99 said:
@ourmanuel said:

Does this guy ever make sense in threads?

So no response to me debunking your attempt at strawmanning me? Ok, gotcha.

@jonnyjhb8127 said:

How do you equalize chakra and reiryoku when they have completely different properties? lol

Reiryoku and chakra aren't completely differrent. The former is spiritual energy while the latter is the combination of physical energy and spiritual energy. When two or more energies have different properties we try to assume a middle ground between the two.

Chakra is not spiritual energy and physical energy, its physical energy and mental energy, the common misconception is that one half of chakra is spirit energy when really its mental energy because many times in the dub and sub of naruto manga and anime its been called spirit energy rather than mental energy, but some translations indeed have called it mental energy.

and its just obvious that its energy of the mind and not energy of the soul. seeing as to recover chakra you must eat and sleep to recover the energy of the body and the mind.

Even if half of chakra was spirit energy and not mental energy, it wouldnt be the same spirit energy as the one in bleach, as that would just be two different fictional verses calling different energies the same thing. What I call fun another may call boring, get the idea?

Plus, if naruto characters really did have the spirit energy shown in bleach, then why dont naruto characters have reaitsu, or why arent the bleach shinigami then in the same verse as the narutoverse?

Reiryoku emits reiatsu lol, chakra emits nothing. That alone debunks chakra being able to be equalized to reiryoku.

Also, reiryoku is produced by will power lol, chakra is produced by physical energy and mental energy. Once you run out of physical and mental energy, no more chakra, but will power is something you never run out of. So its ridiculous to equalize the two energies.

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@jonnyjhb8127: except he clearly states right there “I’ll use my reiatsu to suppress your techniques and abilities”

He’s not talking about movement, which wouldn’t matter since she had already hit him twice.

He was saying he would begin to emit enough reaitsu to slow her movements.

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#31  Edited By InvadedTBD

Barragan bodies, only pain that matters is the one that absorbs energy since chakra=reiatsu.

Respira GG

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Barragan bodies, only pain that matters is the one that absorbs energy.

Respira GG

What? That pain is far weaker than tendo pain, tendo pain is stronger than ulquiorra physically lol.

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@jonnyjhb8127: and as I already said, that wouldn’t matter as she’d already hit him twice

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@jonnyjhb8127: and as I already said, that wouldn’t matter as she’d already hit him twice

What wouldnt matter?

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Barragan, nothing in Pain’s arsenal has the needed range and DC of Soifon’s Bankai to deal heavy damage.

For soul rips Barragan will just age the corpse of Human path, CT in Deva paths case the debris is what deals the damage all of which Barragan will have aged before it reaches him. Despite everything offensively the paths can do Respira can counter.

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#37  Edited By FaradaySloth

Rabii complaining about strawman arguments is rich.

OT: Pain doesn't know how to suppress attacks comparable to age manipulation on the levels of aging literal time. Besides, people weaker than Barragan have already surpassed city level and Ulquiorra himself is a casual multi-mountain buster, tf what Pain does is impressive? Barragan stomps.

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#38  Edited By Raziel2014

@jonnyjhb8127 said:
@invadedtbd said:

Barragan bodies, only pain that matters is the one that absorbs energy.

Respira GG

What? That pain is far weaker than tendo pain, tendo pain is stronger than ulquiorra physically lol.

lol pain physically stronger than ulquiorra, oh god i have never seen this amount of wank in my life

none of the paths of pain can even match Jidanbo from SS in physical power much less Ulquiorra.

the 5 paths of pain are all physically weaker than Choji/Chouza, durability weak enough to be killed by them and konohamaru.

Deva Pain physical stats are weaker than Tsunade and Sakura, so please explain to me how the hell is he physically stronger than ulquiorra

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Rabii complaining about strawman arguments is rich.

OT: Pain doesn't know how to suppress attacks comparable to age manipulation on the levels of aging literal time. Besides, people weaker than Barragan have already surpassed city level and Ulquiorra himself is a casual multi-mountain buster, tf what Pain does is impressive? Barragan stomps.

Ulquiorra cant be that powerful, as even dangai ichigo wasnt that powerful lol.

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#40  Edited By FaradaySloth

@jonnyjhb8127 said:
@faradaysloth said:

Rabii complaining about strawman arguments is rich.

OT: Pain doesn't know how to suppress attacks comparable to age manipulation on the levels of aging literal time. Besides, people weaker than Barragan have already surpassed city level and Ulquiorra himself is a casual multi-mountain buster, tf what Pain does is impressive? Barragan stomps.

Ulquiorra cant be that powerful, as even dangai ichigo wasnt that powerful lol.

Ulquiorra is that powerful, and Dangai Ichigo is also that powerful.

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@jonnyjhb8127: First of all, Chakra is the combination of body energy and spiritual energy, not mental enegy and body energy.

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Second of all, chakra is equalized with reiatsu not reiryoku so your reiryoku can't be equalized with chakra argument gets automatically debunked.

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@rabii99: it officially translate to mental

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#44  Edited By Rabii99

@undre: Even if we took that translation over all the other translations, that doesn't change anything since energies are equalized.

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@jonnyjhb8127: when did I mention physicals? Lol

I said the only relevant pain is the one that absorbs energy because since energies are equalized he is the only one with a hope to counter respira.

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Barragan.

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@undre: Did you read my post? "that doesn't anything".

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Pain stomps hard

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@rabii99 said:

@jonnyjhb8127: First of all, Chakra is the combination of body energy and spiritual energy, not mental enegy and body energy.

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Second of all, chakra is equalized with reiatsu not reiryoku so your reiryoku can't be equalized with chakra argument gets automatically debunked.

Just because a scan calls it spiritual energy doesnt prove your point.