Bane vs The Kingpin

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#1  Edited By Hadrelius

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#2  Edited By Espada

I would give this to Bane

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#3  Edited By Andferne
Espada said:
"I would give this to Bane"

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bane

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Bane

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Wilson Fisk went toe to toe with a Captain America clone. He can handle Bane.

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#7  Edited By BraxusDune

Fisk for the win because Fisk would of stomped on Batman's head after brakeing his back.

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#8  Edited By gunswordfist
BraxusDune said:
"Fisk for the win because Fisk would of stomped on Batman's head after brakeing his back."

He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner.
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#9  Edited By OgreMan

I'd give this to Bane. Kingpin isn't the monster he once was. He's still badass though.

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#10  Edited By gunswordfist
OgreMan said:
"I'd give this to Bane. Kingpin isn't the monster he once was. He's still badass though."

Really?! Everyone's turning nice these days. Or vice versa like Penance..
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#11  Edited By OgreMan
gunswordfist said:
"OgreMan said:
"I'd give this to Bane. Kingpin isn't the monster he once was. He's still badass though."
Really?! Everyone's turning nice these days. Or vice versa like Penance.."

What I mean is Kingpin's stats aren't what they used to be.
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#12  Edited By gunswordfist
OgreMan said:
"gunswordfist said:
"OgreMan said:
"I'd give this to Bane. Kingpin isn't the monster he once was. He's still badass though."
Really?! Everyone's turning nice these days. Or vice versa like Penance.."
What I mean is Kingpin's stats aren't what they used to be."
Oh. Damn retcons.
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#13  Edited By Chaos Rosso

Bane outclasses The Kingpin in pretty much everything but intellect.

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#14  Edited By Magicalmoment

bane wins

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#15  Edited By TruePwnge

close

really depends on the situation

Perp time Kingpin wins by smarts, wins by not fighting and sticking Goblin or Spidey on Bane. Kingpin wins with any kind of weapon
his walking stick (laser cutter cane) or with guns
Bane loses his head, his body gets dumped into a concrete foundation for some building in NYC

Bane wins hand to hand,
he can duke it out with Bat with a good venom steroid injection then Bane just lifts up  Kingpin to the slams ground multiple times and breaks his back
Bane has just become the new crime boss of the Gotham underworld






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#16  Edited By the creator

Bane is stronger, quicker and a hand to hand fighter.

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#17  Edited By The_Martian

I think this is actually pretty close. I would give this to Bane for having more experience fighting hand to hand.

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#18  Edited By the creator
Nobody said:
"I think this is actually pretty close. I would give this to Bane for having more experience fighting hand to hand."
The Kingpin is an immensley skilled and experienced hand to hand fighter.
Miller's writing on Daredevil showcased his abilities.

gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.
Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.
Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them.

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#19  Edited By The_Martian
the creator said:
"Nobody said:
"I think this is actually pretty close. I would give this to Bane for having more experience fighting hand to hand."
The Kingpin is an immensley skilled and experienced hand to hand fighter.
Miller's writing on Daredevil showcased his abilities."
I'm not saying he is bad. I just think Bane beats him.
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#20  Edited By the creator
Nobody said:
"the creator said:
"Nobody said:
"I think this is actually pretty close. I would give this to Bane for having more experience fighting hand to hand."
The Kingpin is an immensley skilled and experienced hand to hand fighter.
Miller's writing on Daredevil showcased his abilities."
I'm not saying he is bad. I just think Bane beats him."
I'm agreeing but I don't think the differnce in their skill level is big.
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#21  Edited By gunswordfist
the creator said:
gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."

I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey.
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#22  Edited By The_Martian
gunswordfist said:
"the creator said:
gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."
I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
Kingpin isn't stronger than Spider-Man. He doesn't even have superhuman strength.
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#23  Edited By Andferne
gunswordfist said:
"I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
Spidey is WAY stronger than Kingpin. While Spidey lifts 10+ tons Kingpin is maybe, Maybe hitting half a ton.
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#24  Edited By gunswordfist
Nobody said:
"gunswordfist said:
"the creator said:
gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."
I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
Kingpin isn't stronger than Spider-Man. He doesn't even have superhuman strength."
Huh?
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#25  Edited By The_Martian
gunswordfist said:
"Nobody said:
"gunswordfist said:
"the creator said:
gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."
I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
Kingpin isn't stronger than Spider-Man. He doesn't even have superhuman strength."
Huh?"
Kingpin is by far weaker than Spider-Man. Spider-Man lifts 10 tons while Kingpin lifts about 800 to 900 lbs, maybe
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#26  Edited By gunswordfist
Nobody said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Nobody said:
"gunswordfist said:
"the creator said:
gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."
I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
Kingpin isn't stronger than Spider-Man. He doesn't even have superhuman strength."
Huh?"
Kingpin is by far weaker than Spider-Man. Spider-Man lifts 10 tons while Kingpin lifts about 800 to 900 lbs, maybe"
Dammit, you're right.
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#27  Edited By Triumphant

Bane

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#28  Edited By gunswordfist

Yeah Bane wins here.

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#29  Edited By OgreMan
Nobody said:
"gunswordfist said:
"Nobody said:
"gunswordfist said:
"the creator said:
gunswordfist said:
He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."
I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
Kingpin isn't stronger than Spider-Man. He doesn't even have superhuman strength."
Huh?"
Kingpin is by far weaker than Spider-Man. Spider-Man lifts 10 tons while Kingpin lifts about 800 to 900 lbs, maybe"
Damn thats all the Kingpin can lift these days? I remember the dude use to be at least class 5.
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#30  Edited By The_Martian

Kinpin has never had superhuman strength.

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#31  Edited By OgreMan
Nobody said:
"Kinpin has never had superhuman strength."

He regularly used to perform superhuman strength feats.
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#32  Edited By The_Martian
OgreMan said:
"Nobody said:
"Kinpin has never had superhuman strength."
He regularly used to perform superhuman strength feats."
like?
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#33  Edited By OgreMan
Nobody said:
"OgreMan said:
"Nobody said:
"Kinpin has never had superhuman strength."
He regularly used to perform superhuman strength feats."
like?"

  • Fisk once picked up a barbell that weighed a minimum of 1500 lbs with one hand (in Amazing Spider-Man #197)

  • Fisk has used that heavy barbell as a quarterstaff while fighting Spider-Man.

  • Fisk has one-handedly tossed around girders weighing hundreds of pounds.

  • Fisk has kicked off the armoured door of his limousine.

  • Fisk has ripped an arm off someone.

  • Fisk has twisted off someone's head.

  • Fisk has effortlessly snapped someone's neck with one hand.

  • Fisk has crushed a man's skull between his hands (and shattered men's skulls with his punches).

  • Fisk has crushed steel pipes in his hand.

  • Fisk has broken and crumpled steel support beams by punching when he intentionally destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in a battle with Spider-Man.

  • Fisk recently shattered the concrete walls of Ryker's prison in a fight with other inmates.

  • Fisk has, with one hand, casually opened up a vault door so heavy that even the teenaged Spider-Man could barely open it and which Daredevil could only move with supreme effort.

  • Fisk once took out a would-be assassin by kicking his heavy oak desk into the guy.

  • Fisk has demonstrated that he can physically overpower a peak human like Captain America.

  • Fisk physically overpowered the Red Skull, with the latter now a peak human since he was resurrected into the cloned body of Captain America.

  • Fisk was physically equal to the college-aged Spider-Man (when the latter was already capable of lifting several tons) and even defeated him in combat after a prolonged battering match that ended when Fisk deliberately destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in order to collapse tons of wreckage onto the wallcrawler, knocking him out.

  • Fisk has casually picked up a heavy sofa and used it as a battering ram
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    #34  Edited By gunswordfist
    OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "gunswordfist said:
    "Nobody said:
    "gunswordfist said:
    "the creator said:
    gunswordfist said:
    He sure would have. Kingpin fights Spider-Man. Bane fights Batman. Kingpin is the clear winner."
    Spiderman would not dare hit Kingpin at full strength otherwise it would have killed Kingpin.Don't mistake Kingpin fighting Spiderman as meaning that Kingpin could actually survive the encounter if Spiderman cut lose.Spiderman has shown on many occasions that he holds his strength back when fighting 'normal' humans for fear of hurting them."
    I completely disagree. Kingpin is stronger than Spider-Man and I believed he said he his body was 98 or 99% muscle. I'm sure he can take a full strength punch from Spidey."
    Kingpin isn't stronger than Spider-Man. He doesn't even have superhuman strength."
    Huh?"
    Kingpin is by far weaker than Spider-Man. Spider-Man lifts 10 tons while Kingpin lifts about 800 to 900 lbs, maybe"
    Damn thats all the Kingpin can lift these days? I remember the dude use to be at least class 5."

    That's what I thought too. Kingpin is just big for no reason. lol
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    #35  Edited By gunswordfist
    OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Kinpin has never had superhuman strength."
    He regularly used to perform superhuman strength feats."
    like?"

  • Fisk once picked up a barbell that weighed a minimum of 1500 lbs with one hand (in Amazing Spider-Man #197)

  • Fisk has used that heavy barbell as a quarterstaff while fighting Spider-Man.

  • Fisk has one-handedly tossed around girders weighing hundreds of pounds.

  • Fisk has kicked off the armoured door of his limousine.

  • Fisk has ripped an arm off someone.

  • Fisk has twisted off someone's head.

  • Fisk has effortlessly snapped someone's neck with one hand.

  • Fisk has crushed a man's skull between his hands (and shattered men's skulls with his punches).

  • Fisk has crushed steel pipes in his hand.

  • Fisk has broken and crumpled steel support beams by punching when he intentionally destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in a battle with Spider-Man.

  • Fisk recently shattered the concrete walls of Ryker's prison in a fight with other inmates.

  • Fisk has, with one hand, casually opened up a vault door so heavy that even the teenaged Spider-Man could barely open it and which Daredevil could only move with supreme effort.

  • Fisk once took out a would-be assassin by kicking his heavy oak desk into the guy.

  • Fisk has demonstrated that he can physically overpower a peak human like Captain America.

  • Fisk physically overpowered the Red Skull, with the latter now a peak human since he was resurrected into the cloned body of Captain America.

  • Fisk was physically equal to the college-aged Spider-Man (when the latter was already capable of lifting several tons) and even defeated him in combat after a prolonged battering match that ended when Fisk deliberately destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in order to collapse tons of wreckage onto the wallcrawler, knocking him out.

  • Fisk has casually picked up a heavy sofa and used it as a battering ram
  • "

    ..........DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
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    #36  Edited By OgreMan
    gunswordfist said:
    "OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Kinpin has never had superhuman strength."
    He regularly used to perform superhuman strength feats."
    like?"

  • Fisk once picked up a barbell that weighed a minimum of 1500 lbs with one hand (in Amazing Spider-Man #197)

  • Fisk has used that heavy barbell as a quarterstaff while fighting Spider-Man.

  • Fisk has one-handedly tossed around girders weighing hundreds of pounds.

  • Fisk has kicked off the armoured door of his limousine.

  • Fisk has ripped an arm off someone.

  • Fisk has twisted off someone's head.

  • Fisk has effortlessly snapped someone's neck with one hand.

  • Fisk has crushed a man's skull between his hands (and shattered men's skulls with his punches).

  • Fisk has crushed steel pipes in his hand.

  • Fisk has broken and crumpled steel support beams by punching when he intentionally destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in a battle with Spider-Man.

  • Fisk recently shattered the concrete walls of Ryker's prison in a fight with other inmates.

  • Fisk has, with one hand, casually opened up a vault door so heavy that even the teenaged Spider-Man could barely open it and which Daredevil could only move with supreme effort.

  • Fisk once took out a would-be assassin by kicking his heavy oak desk into the guy.

  • Fisk has demonstrated that he can physically overpower a peak human like Captain America.

  • Fisk physically overpowered the Red Skull, with the latter now a peak human since he was resurrected into the cloned body of Captain America.

  • Fisk was physically equal to the college-aged Spider-Man (when the latter was already capable of lifting several tons) and even defeated him in combat after a prolonged battering match that ended when Fisk deliberately destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in order to collapse tons of wreckage onto the wallcrawler, knocking him out.

  • Fisk has casually picked up a heavy sofa and used it as a battering ram"
  • ..........DAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!"
    Yeah man Fisk used to be a monster.
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    You know, I'm actually leaning toward Fisk here.  After rereading the Knightfall arc, Bane doesn't seem as impressive to me as he used to.  Sure, he's really big and strong when he's hopped up on Venom, but he's never shown to be much more than a brawler in terms of fighting skill.  Plus, his strength feats aren't all that special.  Classic Fisk could probably match them.

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    #38  Edited By Matezoide2

    Classic Fisk would win,currently while displays great feats (crushing a wood table with minimal esfort) would lose to Bane

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    #39  Edited By the creator

    Here's what a Marvel Handbook said about the Kingpin at the time,

    Height: 6 ft. 7 in.
    Weight: 450 lbs.

    Strength Level
    : The Kingpin possesses the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engages in intensive regular exercise. The Kingpin is virtually as strong as it is possible for a man of his age, height, and weight to be without having superhuman powers. His great bulk does not consist of fat but of muscles that have been developed to enormous size, as in a sumo wrestler. The Kingpin can lift (press) approximately 650 pounds.

    Known Superhuman Powers: None

    Abilities: The Kingpin has extraordinary skill in hand-to-hand combat. His fighting skills and unusual agility for a man of his size compensate for the great difference between his human level of strength and Spider-Man's superhuman strength when the two engage in unarmed combat, (Spider-Man also has inhibitions about using his full strength against an opponent without superhuman powers for fear of killing him or her.)

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    #40  Edited By albanmanson

    Bane

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    #41  Edited By lagoon_boy
    kingpin barely
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    #42  Edited By lagoon_boy
    kingpin barely
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    #43  Edited By Zoom

    Good fight.

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    #44  Edited By geraldthesloth

    Bane

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    #45  Edited By SuperGamera

    BANE!!!!!!!!!

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    #46  Edited By gandalf3219

    Bane is stronger,faster,more agile. He has about equal intelect and knowledge of fighting skills. Bane wins. Unless Kingpin brings some of his buddies like Bullseye and others. Plus Bane has superhuman stregnth.

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    #47  Edited By iLLituracy
    OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "OgreMan said:
    "Nobody said:
    "Kinpin has never had superhuman strength."
    He regularly used to perform superhuman strength feats."
    like?"

  • Fisk once picked up a barbell that weighed a minimum of 1500 lbs with one hand (in Amazing Spider-Man #197)

  • Fisk has used that heavy barbell as a quarterstaff while fighting Spider-Man.

  • Fisk has one-handedly tossed around girders weighing hundreds of pounds.

  • Fisk has kicked off the armoured door of his limousine.

  • Fisk has ripped an arm off someone.

  • Fisk has twisted off someone's head.

  • Fisk has effortlessly snapped someone's neck with one hand.

  • Fisk has crushed a man's skull between his hands (and shattered men's skulls with his punches).

  • Fisk has crushed steel pipes in his hand.

  • Fisk has broken and crumpled steel support beams by punching when he intentionally destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in a battle with Spider-Man.

  • Fisk recently shattered the concrete walls of Ryker's prison in a fight with other inmates.

  • Fisk has, with one hand, casually opened up a vault door so heavy that even the teenaged Spider-Man could barely open it and which Daredevil could only move with supreme effort.

  • Fisk once took out a would-be assassin by kicking his heavy oak desk into the guy.

  • Fisk has demonstrated that he can physically overpower a peak human like Captain America.

  • Fisk physically overpowered the Red Skull, with the latter now a peak human since he was resurrected into the cloned body of Captain America.

  • Fisk was physically equal to the college-aged Spider-Man (when the latter was already capable of lifting several tons) and even defeated him in combat after a prolonged battering match that ended when Fisk deliberately destroyed the foundations of his own mansion in order to collapse tons of wreckage onto the wallcrawler, knocking him out.

  • Fisk has casually picked up a heavy sofa and used it as a battering ram
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    They say that under Fisk's tailored suits isn't a fat belly...but another Fisk.
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    #49  Edited By Dark King

    fisk ftw.

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    #50  Edited By Colossus666
    Secret Turchin Man said:
    "

    Wilson Fisk went toe to toe with a Captain America clone. He can handle Bane.

    "

    CLONE!!!!