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#1  Edited By mrtrevorguy

fight takes place in an abandoned warehouse, neither have weapons,

fight is to the death/KO

this is the original versions of both

who wins?

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#2  Edited By nefarious

Kraven gives Spidey a run for his money. Bane has trouble with fighting peak humans.  
 
Kraven wins.

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#3  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Original Kraven on pots wins a slight majority IMO. But I wouldn't call it a stomp.

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#4  Edited By weaponmaster

Going with Kraven. he took out vermin with no weapons after a hard fight. He wins here after a decent battle.

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#6  Edited By crackerjack82

I am gonna go with bane, remember how smart he is

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#7  Edited By mrtrevorguy

@texasdeathmatch: my bad i didn't know

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#8  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@mrtrevorguy said:

@texasdeathmatch: my bad i didn't know

No worries, just try to search for the fights before you create the thread.
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#9  Edited By mrtrevorguy

@texasdeathmatch: i did, i googled it

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#10  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@mrtrevorguy: I mean search from this site. Top left corner, next to the ComicVine logo, there's a search bar. As long as you check "Topics" in the options, just type in the two names and if its already been done, threads will pop up.
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#12  Edited By jashro44

Kraven due to speed. Banes intelligence wont help him against someone like kraven WITHOUT PREP. Not a stomp.

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#13  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Nefarious said:

Kraven gives Spidey a run for his money. Bane has trouble with fighting peak humans. Kraven wins.

That's like Deathstroke> insert somebody cause he fights the Titans.

I think Bane but not sure really,k4tz has'nt been able to give a decisive winner either.

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#14  Edited By andre54

Probably Kraven. Bane looks more badass though, but looks can't kill. Maybe.

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#15  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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I was a n00b when I previously remarked on this battle.  As epic as it would be, my money is on Kraven (assuming standard gear, Bane is on venom).
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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

But really, this is a hell of a fight I'd love to see go down.  Bane's advantage is superior intellect, but overall.  When it comes to combat, that's all Kraven has known for decades (he was around 60 years old in his first appearance), and has been able to survive with just his hands for a reason.  He's a smart and skilled fighter.  I'd vouch that Bane is slightly more skilled, but Kraven wouldn't be far behind by any measure.  I can think of at least five different times when he has disabled entire limbs with nerve strikes.  Then there's the physicals.  As tough as Bane is, Sergei's on a different level.  We're talking about a dude that (for no real given reason) can keep fighting after strikes from Spider-Man.  During one classic fight, Spider-Man had to use a "punch that could drop the Hulk" to take him down.  Crazy, I know.  Then there's reflexes and speed.  Reflexes are likely the same, but speed goes to Kraven.  He can run 60mph for short bursts.  And, he's literally defied gravity with his "cat like" agility.  Pretty much I see Kraven holding all of the cards when it comes to major advantages.  Then there's also the fact he's now sporting a healing factor and brings a variety of bladed weapons to the table.   
 
Despite my belief Sergei wins, it's still an awesome fight I'd demand to see in a well written crossover.

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#17  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

But really, this is a hell of a fight I'd love to see go down. Bane's advantage is superior intellect, but overall. When it comes to combat, that's all Kraven has known for decades (he was around 60 years old in his first appearance), and has been able to survive with just his hands for a reason. He's a smart and skilled fighter. I'd vouch that Bane is slightly more skilled, but Kraven wouldn't be far behind by any measure. I can think of at least five different times when he has disabled entire limbs with nerve strikes. Then there's the physicals. As tough as Bane is, Sergei's on a different level. We're talking about a dude that (for no real given reason) can keep fighting after strikes from Spider-Man. During one classic fight, Spider-Man had to use a "punch that could drop the Hulk" to take him down. Crazy, I know. Then there's reflexes and speed. Reflexes are likely the same, but speed goes to Kraven. He can run 60mph for short bursts. And, he's literally defied gravity with his "cat like" agility. Pretty much I see Kraven holding all of the cards when it comes to major advantages. Then there's also the fact he's now sporting a healing factor and brings a variety of bladed weapons to the table.

Despite my belief Sergei wins, it's still an awesome fight I'd demand to see in a well written crossover.

Seems good enough.

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#18  Edited By nefarious

@entropy_aegis: Maybe, I'm underestimating Bane. But, Kraven is faster than him.

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#19  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Nefarious said:

@entropy_aegis: Maybe, I'm underestimating Bane. But, Kraven is faster than him.

Yeah K4tz adressed it,Kraven wins after a tough battle.

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#20  Edited By nefarious

@entropy_aegis: A tough battle, indeed. Even though, it's weird tough because of Kraven's feats.

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#21  Edited By entropy_aegis

@Nefarious said:

@entropy_aegis: A tough battle, indeed. Even though, it's weird tough because of Kraven's feats.

I think Kraven gives Spidey trouble due to smarts,technique and prep.They won't be so effective against Bane.

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#22  Edited By nefarious

@entropy_aegis: True, since he is a hunter. Kraven would probably look at Bane as a dumb brute, not know that Bane has a high IQ of his own.

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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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Kraven has taken the edge over Spider-Man without prep before. 
 
Unfortunately, I don't have scans :(
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#24  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Nefarious said:

@entropy_aegis: Maybe, I'm underestimating Bane. But, Kraven is faster than him.


Kraven is faster because he's on a superhuman level.  Bane is by no means slow, though.  That's a common misconecption about the character.
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#25  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@entropy_aegis: Kraven has taken the edge over Spider-Man without prep before. Unfortunately, I don't have scans :(

I believe you.

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#26  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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In that case, he's also solo'd the Avengers. 
 
And by Avengers, I mean West Coast.  And by the whole team,  I mean Tigra.  :D
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#27  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@entropy_aegis: In that case, he's also solo'd the Avengers. And by Avengers, I mean West Coast. And by the whole team, I mean Tigra. :D

I still have a brain.

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#28  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@entropy_aegis
LOL.
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#29  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@entropy_aegis: LOL.

LOL,so i was thinking of making a Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes vs Deathstroke and Bane thread on the other site,what do you think?

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#30  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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As much as I love Bane, I think he's the odd man out there.  Despite his skill, being unarmed against a bunch of armed dudes with skill on par = weak link, imo.
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Kraven the Hunter.
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#32  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@entropy_aegis: As much as I love Bane, I think he's the odd man out there. Despite his skill, being unarmed against a bunch of armed dudes with skill on par = weak link, imo.

Then we'll arm him with venom,a gun,an axe and an assault rifle lol.

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#33  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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It's tough since he's so limited with feats for weapons, but sure.
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#34  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@entropy_aegis: It's tough since he's so limited with feats for weapons, but sure.

So i think you should make it,since your better with the scenarios,take your time.

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#35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
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LOL.  It's not tough to make an OP for that.  Besides, I'm trying to re-format a respect thread for Kraven :P
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#36  Edited By entropy_aegis

@k4tzm4n said:

@entropy_aegis: LOL. It's not tough to make an OP for that. Besides, I'm trying to re-format a respect thread for Kraven :P

Cool,i'll see that when it's done.

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#37  Edited By Manchine

Kraven.  He is Stonger, Faster and he has several tricks up his sleeve.
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#38  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@Nefarious said:

@entropy_aegis: A tough battle, indeed. Even though, it's weird tough because of Kraven's feats.


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#40  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Bane would break the Hunter.

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#41  Edited By Recoil1985

Kraven wins. Bane's sole advantage is his skill, but admittedly it isn't enough to overcome Kraven's superior speed, agility and stupidly impressive durability. A man who can withstand numerous hits in a slug-fest with Spidey isn't likely to collapse against Bane's 2-3 ton strength anytime soon, meanwhile Bane will feel each of Sergei's strikes and his weapons will be able to dish out even more damage.

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#42  Edited By jashro44

I would back kraven due to better stats and weapons.

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#43  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@Recoil1985 said:

Kraven wins. Bane's sole advantage is his skill, but admittedly it isn't enough to overcome Kraven's superior speed, agility and stupidly impressive durability. A man who can withstand numerous hits in a slug-fest with Spidey isn't likely to collapse against Bane's 2-3 ton strength anytime soon, meanwhile Bane will feel each of Sergei's strikes and his weapons will be able to dish out even more damage.

The OP doesn't take away Venom so wouldn't Bane be stronger than Sergei? Also I don't quite understand Kraven's durability. I've never seen a source that suggests he has the stats to take punches from Spider-Man. Spider-Man should be able to one shot him with a good one.
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#44  Edited By BringnIt

@Vance Astro They are both two tons (pre-new 52, of course). As to how he is that durable, prior to his resurrection, partially Parker's propensity toward pulling punches and PIS that eventually became part of the character.

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#45  Edited By Saren

@Vance Astro said:

The OP doesn't take away Venom

It doesn't have to. Recent events aside, Venom has not been standard equipment for Bane for a long time.

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#46  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Recoil1985:

Bane drops the following line and Kraven runs away, promptly BFRing himself.

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#47  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@CitizenBane said:

@Vance Astro said:

The OP doesn't take away Venom

It doesn't have to. Recent events aside, Venom has not been standard equipment for Bane for a long time.

Wasn't he just using Venom in Secret Six?
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#48  Edited By Recoil1985

@BringnIt said:

@Vance Astro They are both two tons (pre-new 52, of course). As to how he is that durable, prior to his resurrection, partially Parker's propensity toward pulling punches and PIS that eventually became part of the character.

Parker could definitely drop him with a handful of good connects, but it was rare he'd drop Sergei with just one shot. I remember with the issue involving Vulture Spidey said he had to use a punch that could "drop the Hulk." lmao

@Vance Astro said:

@Recoil1985 said:

Kraven wins. Bane's sole advantage is his skill, but admittedly it isn't enough to overcome Kraven's superior speed, agility and stupidly impressive durability. A man who can withstand numerous hits in a slug-fest with Spidey isn't likely to collapse against Bane's 2-3 ton strength anytime soon, meanwhile Bane will feel each of Sergei's strikes and his weapons will be able to dish out even more damage.

The OP doesn't take away Venom so wouldn't Bane be stronger than Sergei? Also I don't quite understand Kraven's durability. I've never seen a source that suggests he has the stats to take punches from Spider-Man. Spider-Man should be able to one shot him with a good one.

Sergei's durability has never been explained, but it has been consistent that he's one durable mother.

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#50  Edited By Mercy_

@Vance Astro said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Vance Astro said:

The OP doesn't take away Venom

It doesn't have to. Recent events aside, Venom has not been standard equipment for Bane for a long time.

Wasn't he just using Venom in Secret Six?

Under incredibly extenuating circumstances and not regularly.