Baldur ( GoW ) vs Eren Yeager and The Armored Titan ( AOT )

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#1 Posted by Red_Ruby_Petal (8418 posts) - - Show Bio
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#2 Posted by Mountiel (58 posts) - - Show Bio

Baldur one-shots both

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#3 Posted by vjbthe3 (190 posts) - - Show Bio

Team. Baldur's has superior damage output... but so. Eren is faster. Reiner should be faster as well. Eren has the range, and even if baldur could put a hole in them or knock their heads off, they just come back. And honestly eren could one shot with a spike through the gut. Baldur's was never shown to survive getting bisected in half which is what a building sized spike would do.

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#4 Posted by Reddsevil34 (284 posts) - - Show Bio

Baldur decimates. He was strong enough to fight the likes of Kratos, knock down the World Serpent, got out of Hellheim, and toss boulders that are 3x's his size around like nothing. Not to mention his superhuman speed and durability and that invulnerability curse he has.

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#5 Posted by Laskt (442 posts) - - Show Bio

Considering OP didn’t turn off his curse, Baldur wins cause he literally cannot be killed

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#6 Posted by Atomickitten15 (169 posts) - - Show Bio

@vjbthe3: If Kratos couldn't cleave Baldur in half, then the Titans have no chance. Kratos and Baldur are on a level of strength far above the entire AOT verse. Kratos has his bridge moving feat that even low-balled blows Titans out of the water and Baldur was shown to match him in strength.

Baldur is also much faster than any Titan in the series. He's a blur to Kratos in active combat and Kratos was able to perfectly perceive Hermes as well as lightning time so Baldur is on another level of speed entirely.

He'd literally rip them to shreds faster than they could recover. Not to mention he has basically infinite stamina and he feels no pain. He's literally unkillable due to his curse and he came back from total death - Kratos snapping his neck.

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#7 Posted by Atomickitten15 (169 posts) - - Show Bio

@vjbthe3:If Kratos couldn't cleave Baldur in half, then the Titans have no chance. Kratos and Baldur are on a level of strength far above the entire AOT verse. Kratos has his bridge moving feat that even low-balled blows Titans out of the water and Baldur was shown to match him in strength.

Baldur is also much faster than any Titan in the series. He's a blur to Kratos in active combat and Kratos was able to perfectly perceive Hermes as well as lightning time so Baldur is on another level of speed entirely.

He'd literally rip them to shreds faster than they could recover. Not to mention he has basically infinite stamina and he feels no pain. He's literally unkillable due to his curse and he came back from total death - Kratos snapping his neck.

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#8 Edited by vjbthe3 (190 posts) - - Show Bio

@atomickitten15: who knows how much faster or slower kratos has gotten since gow 3. He couldn't dodge an arrow from his child son. OM kratos doesn't have a single impressive speed feat. Eren, a giant, has moved fte speed and dodged and blocked bullet speed projectiles.

Baldur not being cut in half is just a massive low showing for kratos's blade weapons. Baldur was pierced by an arrow and dagger by a small child. And somehow even though kratos has the strength to snap baldur's neck he can't decapitate? That being said, eren uses spikes that are 50+ feet tall and strikes faster than bullet timers can react. Baldur's never come back from being split in half again, what a spike that size that grows larger towards the base would do.

Yes baldur is stronger and hits harder. If he puts a hole in either of the titans they just heal from it. He could take off their heads and they would just heal from it. Mean while eren can atta k from dozens of feet away with building sized spikes.

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#9 Posted by Red_Ruby_Petal (8418 posts) - - Show Bio

did this just get its first post in 11 months? LMAO.

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#10 Posted by Zuriel-el (3774 posts) - - Show Bio

titans

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#11 Posted by Atomickitten15 (169 posts) - - Show Bio

@vjbthe3: Kratos hasn't really shown any signs of weakening. His Demi-God / Full God status should prevent this at all.

He's reacted to point blank explosions and lightning before yet Baldur has the ability to blitz him? Even if his speed was a mere fraction of what it was, Baldur would still be leagues above Eren.

When you talk about Atreus like he's a weakling, you'd be dead wrong. He tanked a direct punch from Baldur and is a half breed of God and Jotun (those massive giants). By all means he would be able to hurt Baldur.

Eren has one weak-point and it's gonna get hit eventually. Literally one hit to the head and neck area will kill him.

TDLR: Baldur is really too fast to be hit, much much stronger, has amazing regen and can tank whatever Eren can throw at him (The arena isn't stated so i'm not sure where all those spikes are coming from - sure he could make them with Warhammer titan powers but I doubt he'd be fast enough to manage it before he gets clobbered.

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#12 Posted by vjbthe3 (190 posts) - - Show Bio

@atomickitten15: I just don't think he's as fast. And he doesn't have proof of being as fast as he was previously.

Not really. A fraction is a fraction. he could be slower than a bullet timer now, as I said he got tagged by an arrow in cutscene That being said, Kratos has shown the capabilities to react to Baldur. So it's not like Baldur is guaranteed as fast as an explosion or lightning either way.

Atreus isn't a weakling, but he has no strength feats anywhere near as impressive as Kratos and there's no reason to think he's anywhere near Kratos in strength. So the fact Atreus can cut him and pierce him with an arrow/dagger and Kratos can snap his neck, but can't do any significant cutting damage, is really just a weird low showing for his blades.

Eren can get his whole head blown off and be fine.. That neck spot is a lot more specific than you think. We're talking Eren is like 1/30th the size of his titan. Though you're if given the opportunity he would get hit eventually

His warhammer titans happen with a thought, and honestly can't see him surviving one spike through the gut.. Eren was getting attacked By a bullet timer+ while incapable of attack, and within meters of being attacked regained operation and utilized his powers before getting hit. That being said Eren also has the armored titan to run distraction, while he utilizes spikes.

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#13 Edited by Atomickitten15 (169 posts) - - Show Bio

@vjbthe3: There's equally no proof of him being slower in any way. Kratos is a half-god and was even a full-god. He's cursed with immortality to repent for his sins which is how he survived his impalement at the end of GOW 3. You'll need to provide an argument for a god to have gotten weaker over time. Seeing as he's managed to keep his immense strength totally intact (flipping multi-dimensional Temples and such) there's no reason to think he's any slower.

Even so, Eren has Supersonic reactions at best and Baldur scales far higher than that off Kratos. In GOW 3, Kratos is canonically a lightning timer and even if he was literally 200 times slower, he'd still be much too fast for the entire AOT verse.

Going by standard rulings, as no location is given, a populated city street is used and combatants start 10 ft apart. This means that the Titans have a movement disability due to large buildings and they are stuck rather close to Baldur so they cannot engage at a distance.

Once more by standard rulings, as no win conditions are given, the win is given by KO, death or BFR and thus Baldur has another way to win the fight. He could simply punch Eren or Reiner far enough away to secure a win.

The Armoured Titan is absolute fodder in this match. It doesn't have the speed feats of the older Eren to contend with Baldur and his armoured plating would offer absolutely no protection from his attacks. He'd literally be instantly knocked on his ass the moment the fight begins.

Baldur's blunt force durability (tanking face fulls of Kratos' punches) is far higher than anything the titans can produce. Not to mention that Baldur has his curse active in this match, meaning that he heals from all injuries and cannot feel pain. I actually has a solid hypothesis as to how he's damaged by arrows and daggers, yet isn't bisected by Kratos - He has highly resistant skin (only broken by a god or a god/jotun hybrid) but it's his skeletal system that is never injured. This is shows particularly when Kratos lands a full force hit on his shoulder and the Axe penetrates till it reaches the bone. In the same vein it takes a solid effort from Kratos to break his neck (Kratos as you know is incredibly strong) yet his skin is harmed by easier hits (Kratos draws blood from him with punches).

Even if he is speared, I doubt it would kill him and he'd recover basically immediately. It's only a matter of time before Eren and Reiner are either tagged in the nape or removed from the battle-field.

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In their final fight, Kratos literally guts Baldur (who no-longer has his curse) and he rather casually heals it off. It'll take a lot more than a spike to put down Baldur

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#14 Posted by Woodward (927 posts) - - Show Bio

Baldur stomps.

He scales to Kratos who overpowered mountain-sized titans with his bare hands.

Attack on Titan is a weak Shounen manga.

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#15 Posted by ValorKnight (12858 posts) - - Show Bio

Eren could honestly solo at this point.

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#16 Posted by buildhare (8866 posts) - - Show Bio

B L I T Z

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#17 Posted by KingCrimson (6175 posts) - - Show Bio

The Titans size works against them in this scenario, as they’re going against somebody who has comparable strength to them who is much smaller in size.

It wouldn’t be an easy fight for either side - either Titan would have a rough time trying to eat Baldur - but Eren’s Warhammer powers might just clinch it for them.

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#18 Posted by Zuriel-el (3774 posts) - - Show Bio

the war hammer titans infinite weapons and much harder crystals give titans the win.

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#19 Edited by Eredin12 (1068 posts) - - Show Bio

Baldur destroys them, Kratos didn't get any weaker and Baldur was blitzing him and was a complete blur to him, plus he is very small compared to them which is a big advantage

He should be faster, much stronger( Milion toner), and to durable for them to hurt him, he knocked out Multi Montian sized World serpent in 3 hits, the evrey strike was shaking entire body of a serpent to its foundations and serpent weights like million tons , not only that but Serpent has solid durabiltiy feats like one shooting titan and hitting them with its head at hypersonic speed and no selling those impacts, when serpent fighted Thor, their clash shocked all nine realms

Baldur should make short work of them

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#20 Posted by KingCrimson (6175 posts) - - Show Bio

@eredin12: Baldur and Kratos both got tagged by arrows. Even arguing they moved at twice the speed of regular arrows isn’t enough to give them any speed advantage here.

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#21 Edited by Eredin12 (1068 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingcrimson: I can give you like 10 examples of Superman beign tagged by street levelers, FTL speedsters being tagged by street levlers, MUCH more example of Wolverine being tagged by normal humans and other slow thigns like bullets, arrows, DCEU Superman being tagged by every single bullet fired at him ...It happens with the evrey character

Kratos and Baldur have great healing factor they dont care about arrows, but I can give you a feat of Kratos effortlessly dodging point-blank arrow when he wanted to , But they have other speed feats to prove they have an advantage here, i mean if titans are only mach 1

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#22 Posted by deactivated-5d5789e65ebaa (2099 posts) - - Show Bio

@eredin12: Baldur and Kratos both got tagged by arrows. Even arguing they moved at twice the speed of regular arrows isn’t enough to give them any speed advantage here.

neither of them were trying to dodge them lul

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#23 Posted by Hypnos0929 (6903 posts) - - Show Bio

Baldur gets smashed but as they turn to leave Eren stands still, screams a bloody scream then falls down as Baldur punches out the back of his skull. Baldur then turns, jumps and knocks the armored titans knee caps out. He then gives a speech about living without pain before ripping the armor off piece by piece

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#24 Posted by KingCrimson (6175 posts) - - Show Bio

@randomguy287: You could make that argument for Baldur I suppose, but why would Kratos choose to get shot by an arrow that he could apprently so easily react to?

I get that sometimes bullet timers get tagged by bullets, I’m not arguing that if you can dodge something you should 100% of the time, but Kratos speed in IV was underwhelming.

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#25 Posted by KingCrimson (6175 posts) - - Show Bio

@eredin12: All of those comic characters have tonnes of showings written by several different writers over decades. Comic continuity is shit, you won’t get any argument from me there.

Yeah can I see Kratos dodging an arrow in GoW IV? I might have missed that.

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#26 Edited by deactivated-5d5789e65ebaa (2099 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingcrimson: Yeah you can argue so that Kratos is weaker and slower due to being older and even add the fact that he was blitzed by Baldur

but you can also argue he really didn't want to dodge it like he was holding back and thought his son would simply put down the bow, not wanting to get angry again like he was before in the later games

Specially with the fact he has dodged those before

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Depends on what you think

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#27 Posted by Eredin12 (1068 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingcrimson:

Similar is here really, the god of war games are created over decades with difirent writers and people, inconsistencies can do and happen but like I said evrey character has feats like that ( DCEU Superman, comic characters,...)

Kratos dodging arrows were in the previous game not in GOW 4 but he still created shockwaves with a punch in GOW4 and dodged or blocked some of Baldur blizes who is a complete blur to him and that is better than arrow timing and he is not slower than in previous game