Bajrang Gun vs Raditz, just how many to knock him out cold?

Raditz got bodied by a child using Headbutt.

Luffy one shots.

He no sold attacks from Piccolo and Piccolo casually blew up the moon a few Bajrang guns aren't doing shit. It would take a shit load

Enraged Toddler Gohan would be beyond Yonko level in terms of AP he had a power level of over 1000 you can't make this up

10

100 should be enough

also i doubt raditz can defend himself against attacks that can deal internal damage to his organs

Raditz no sells

A dozen

doesnt that kid solo OP or something. i forget

1 is overkill

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He is not no-selling it, especially with the internal damage element, but it will take quite a few to actually knock him out. I'd guess around 24 might do it.

Raditz is a complete moon obliteration level guy. You think a possibly country level attack is going to cause him any damage? The difference between moon level and country level is in millions.

It doesn't matter how many times Luffy punches him continuously. You would need the force of that attack multiplied by millions for Raditz to start noticing.

If it doesn't have properties of Ryou then Raditz flat out no sells it. He has already no sold moon vaporizing level attacks.

If Bajrang has same mechanics of Ryou, then I don't see Raditz tanking very many. Dragon Ball Z characters don't have internal durability showings outside a few characters with regenerative bodies like Cell and Buu. And Vegito who no diffed Super Buu jumping inside of his body. I wouldn't attempt to make this argument pass Saiyan Saga though. Hell no.

Multi-continental was the calc for Bajrang Gun, and that's the low end. Aka no consideration for AP of Hakis used (Arnament, Conquerors or Ryou) or the actual speed of punch since it was put only at massively hyper sonic (150+ mach speed).

Instead they went mostly with the size and mass of the hand thrown at massively hypersonic speeds.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Therefir/One_Piece:_Gomu_Gomu_no_Bajrang_Gun

No sells the raw force (questionable physicals aside) but the internal damage aspect might one shot

That same child was stronger than Moon busters and destroyed a space pod that can no sell impacts from space and being in the epicenter of a large country nuking attacks.

OT. Externally Raditz no sells all of 'em. Internally it's more debatable but it would still take a shit ton of hits (number of hits would also heavily depend on what part of body Luffy hits).

Champion of Comicvine Raditz shrugs it off.

OT: He can no-sell the external damage. The internal damage is what should be debated, here.

@eredin12: people like to post anti feats of dragon ball physicals like Goku struggling to move a few tons post cell saga or Vegeta struggling to move magetta.

Freeza's endurance and survivability are unique to him. We've seen Goku get one shot by less. As you pointed out they've never been hit by internal attacks so it's hard to judge. A direct punch kills though since it has durability alteration

Internal attacks usually doesn’t work on DBZ characters unless you’re strong enough to hurt them externally

Bruh, Final Bosses that are wizards could blow up the moon and they still get clapped by a Fighter with a big sword.

Point is, all people are looking at is the destruction feats and not the tanking feats or other raw stats. They aren't consider the powers involved and what evidence Raditz has in countering any of that which in this case is zero.

Raditz has no defense for the internal damaging effects of Ryou, nor has he or anyone in DBZ taking a punch with that much force behind.

In terms of raw attack stat, he's no-selling a continental+ attack like Bajrang Gun - but I don't recall him ever having any internal organ durability feats so he could take some good damage from it

Raditz literally no sold an attack from a guy that blew up the moon...

That Shit will never hurt him.

will tickle raditz and give him a giggle

You'd have to be on a similar level or a higher level as someone in dragon ball to damage them internally. Or would have to catch them off guard or if they willingly lowered their power level to someone weaker than them or lower than that. I don't recall a single instance of a db character being hurt by any attack internally to someone weaker than them. Whether it's a physical attack, ki related attack or an attack like hits and granola's. They're physicals and durability inside and out scale to one another. Raditz durability is moon+ level. That goes for internally too.

@eredin12: sure about that? I don't remember dragon ball characters having any resistance to having their bodies forcibly altered (candy vegito)

Thanks for clearing up the physicals

Luffy would be more effective just walking home

@eredin12: yeah I think that was the explanation. Goku refused to be teleported back in the name arc right

Actually, I just double checked.

Bajrang does in fact have same mechanics as Ryou. There is a literal flashback panel with Hyogoro before hand.

As we know, Ryou directly applies pressure to internal body parts of opponent, ignoring eternal durability. So Raditz outer durability feats like being unphased by moon level ki blast is not really relevant here.

So pretty much every inch of Raditz body would be suffering from internal damage. MC+ to Moon level power (where ever Bajrang is at) directly to his heart, lungs, inside of his tail, pelvic region, etc. I don't think he tanks this at all. Just straight up lacks the feats.

@chris2kzombieki: Raditz doesn't have any feats whatsoever to suggest he could tank even Law's Gamma Knife to the chest. Unlike Kaido, doesn't have Conqueror's Haki flowing through his entire body as a defense mechanism.

stop giving OP fans hope

OP fans at it again lmfao. Bet it can also oneshot ssj namek saga goku( who has no internal damage resistance feat)

@agustos:

Ah, yes. Your high IQ and totally layered response indefinitely changed my opinion on this matter. And Piccolo's destroying a moon definitely has everything to do with internal damage and totally correlates.

What was I thinking???

OT: there's literally nothing luffy has that can harm raditz who eat moon vaping attacks like nothing. " muh but internal damage with ryou" he used it on far weaker characters than raditz, luffy would be lucky to make raditz notice him let alone harm him. Again stop giving OP fans hope in the face of opponents they can only dream of beating.

probably tickles raditz

@agustos:

I could give a flying fuck about giving people hope. That just sounds stupid. lol. Just giving my honest opinion and none of your "high IQ" post are changing my opinion.

Kaido has Conqueror's Haki flowing through his body which is why he can shrug off Law's Gamma Kinfe and Ryou. His internals are just that durable. Raditz has no such defense mechanism to suggest that even regular ass Gamma Knife to the heart wouldn't kill him. Outer durability feats like tanking a moon level blast is not relevant at all. Has nothing to do with his heart / organs and such.

I can legitimately argue a building level attack to his heart ignoring his externals would kill him.

Ignoring Raditz has no internal organ durability feats and spamming "moon level durability" is kinda cope IMO. People need to accept that outmuscling someone's durability tier isn't the only way to hurt someone.

Same kind of people that say a Saibaman solos Gojo, Makima or Uta

Also want to point out that Krillin who is no where near on the level of Nappa was going to kill him with a Destructo Disc. So we already have instances in Dragon Ball where unconventional attacks are enough to one shot characters of a much higher tier. I have zero reason to believe chatacter much weaker then Nappa like Raditz would survive even Gamma Knife to the chest, let alone Bajrang Gun which has same mechanics as Ryou's internal destruction. An attack that would envelop Raditz entire body from the inside out.

@wushu59 said:

Also want to point out that Krillin who is no where near on the level of Nappa was going to kill him with a Destructo Disc. So we already have instances in Dragon Ball where unconventional attacks are enough to one shot characters of a much higher tier. I have zero reason to believe chatacter much weaker then Nappa like Raditz would survive even Gamma Knife to the chest, let alone Bajrang Gun which has same mechanics as Ryou's internal destruction. An attack that would envelop Raditz entire body from the inside out.

actually

the destructo disc is planetary for hurting nappa

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@xebec: Well, yeah. Krillin is obviously in the planetary ranges but he still unable to damage Nappa via any other method. The point I was making is Dragon Ball characters having showings of being able to die to unconventional attacks that are below their own weight class durability wise. It's the not the AP of Destructo Disc that makes the attack dangerous for Nappa.

i was joking

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then what is it then ?

@agustos: As far as we know, just the shaprness and cutting properties. Dragon Ball doesn't really go in depth to explain the technique. Krillin also cuts off 2nd form Frieza's tail in Namek Saga and he obviously doesn't even scale to Frieza 1st form in any capacity AP wise.

Lol if kinetic energy from casual moon-level blast is insignificant damage for Raditz, how would anything like a Bajrang gun damage his exterior to the extent that it can cause "Internal organ damage"?

Raditz would not even feel it