Azula (insane) vs Korra (unbalanced)

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In this battle, Princess Azula will take on Avatar Korra, with a twist. Who will win?

For this fight, Azula is post-mental breakdown. Any feats from the finale onwards into the comics are valid.

Korra is unbalanced, like she was when she first fought Kuvira. Any feats from the beginning of book 4 to her visit with Zaheer when she found her balance again are valid

No Avatar State

All are in character. Victory by ko or death

Round 1:

Fight takes place where Korra first fought Kuvira

No lightning

Round 2:

Fight takes place in the Crystal Catacombs

Lightning on (Korra knows Azula has lightning)

Who will win?

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Do you have any scans from the comics? Also, nice thread. Best one of yours in while

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Eh azula both rounds

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Round 1 Korra. Azula insane doesn't have much of her agility feats and has pretty much been handled by Zuko with minimal bending. Korra can win with the level of earth vending she used on Kuvira.

Round 2- Azula. Lightning is fast and Korra's reaction time is down. If Azula pulls it out randomly it'll probably hit her.

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination

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Eh azula both rounds

any reasons?

@koays said:

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination

That is possible

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@arcus: AS allowed?

L. D.

Nah. Unbalanced Korra would ko herself going into the AS anyway, though it is possible she'd take out Azula in the process

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@arcus: cause azula is a dangerous azula to an unbalanced korra XD

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Do you have any scans from the comics? Also, nice thread. Best one of yours in while

Here's some stuff

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Mismatch. Azula is still incredibly dangerous, and was able to keep Zuko and Katara on their toes, whereas Korra couldn't take down some no-name earthbender in an underground fight.

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Mismatch. Azula is still incredibly dangerous, and was able to keep Zuko and Katara on their toes, whereas Korra couldn't take down some no-name earthbender in an underground fight.

This is Korra with the poison removed but still unbalanced-like she was when she fought Kuvira the first time

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Azula both rounds.

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@jonez120 said:

Azula both rounds.

Any reasons?

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@koays said:

Round 1 Korra. Azula insane doesn't have much of her agility feats and has pretty much been handled by Zuko with minimal bending. Korra can win with the level of earth vending she used on Kuvira.

Round 2- Azula. Lightning is fast and Korra's reaction time is down. If Azula pulls it out randomly it'll probably hit her.

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination

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I'm thinking both rounds for Azula. Though she did use her lightning for a majority of the comics, she was fighting against Katara, Aang, and Zuko who were amongst some of the most powerful benders in the world. Her duels while short did provide her with some good agility feats that I'd say put her on top of Korra. Korra was really out of wack during that fight.

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I'm thinking both rounds for Azula. Though she did use her lightning for a majority of the comics, she was fighting against Katara, Aang, and Zuko who were amongst some of the most powerful benders in the world. Her duels while short did provide her with some good agility feats that I'd say put her on top of Korra. Korra was really out of wack during the fight.

At the same time, she generally wasn't able to keep up with them for long. She might be more agile than unbalanced Korra, but even if she is it's not like that's the only factor in a fight. Kuvira was also a highly skilled bender

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Couple battles that could use some love

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/korra-air-vs-zuko-1655268/#12

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles-7/kuvira-vs-zuko-read-op-1655072/

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@koays said:

Round 1 Korra. Azula insane doesn't have much of her agility feats and has pretty much been handled by Zuko with minimal bending. Korra can win with the level of earth vending she used on Kuvira.

Round 2- Azula. Lightning is fast and Korra's reaction time is down. If Azula pulls it out randomly it'll probably hit her.

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination

@arcus I lol'ed at the final panel of the first scan you posted, where Zuko avoids a burst of flame by simply jumping over it, when he should have been burned by the rising heat. Ohhh avatar physics.

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@arcus: after reading those, I fully well beleive that Azula can take both rounds. All that really happened to Azula is that (other than going nuts) she lost her control and composure that made her a high level threat. Korra, on the other hand, completely lost her inner strength and was severely handicapped by PTSD. She was owned by fodder twice and got humiliated by Kuvira even while in the Avatar State. Azula all day

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@justicethorpsylocke: the fodder thing was with the poison inside her. Kuvira didn't beat Korra in the AS, essentially Korra beat herself. However, since there's no AS, that won't be an issue.

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@arcus said:

@mrunsmiley said:

Mismatch. Azula is still incredibly dangerous, and was able to keep Zuko and Katara on their toes, whereas Korra couldn't take down some no-name earthbender in an underground fight.

This is Korra with the poison removed but still unbalanced-like she was when she fought Kuvira the first time

That's what I was referring to. She didn't fare any better, and didn't even land any hits on Kuvira. She's not going to land many, if any, on Azula either.

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@lvenger said:

@koays said:

Round 1 Korra. Azula insane doesn't have much of her agility feats and has pretty much been handled by Zuko with minimal bending. Korra can win with the level of earth vending she used on Kuvira.

Round 2- Azula. Lightning is fast and Korra's reaction time is down. If Azula pulls it out randomly it'll probably hit her.

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination.

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@arcus: The traces? I thought the fight with Kuvira was before she trained with Toph

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Azula, both rounds.

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It's very close, i think, but i can see Azula winning this. Tenacity, ferocity, sheer power and still very skilled, in spite of being crazy-go-nuts. I imagine it going similarly to Korra's first fight with Kuvira, actually, with Korra doing better, perhaps, but Azula eventually wearing her down.

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@mrunsmiley: she had clearly improved from when she was losing to random benders

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R1 Korra

R2 Azula

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@wrglfan2814: she can't enter the AS without basically ko'ing herself, plus she wouldn't in character

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is AS a thing here?

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is AS a thing here?

Let's just assume not, it wasn't effective when Korra was unbalanced anyway

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@arcus said:

@just_banter said:

is AS a thing here?

Let's just assume not, it wasn't effective when Korra was unbalanced anyway

alright, wait help me out here, when Korra was unbalanced didn't she just lose to everyone? Like that random earth bender, Kuvira, Toph etc?

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@arcus said:

@just_banter said:

is AS a thing here?

Let's just assume not, it wasn't effective when Korra was unbalanced anyway

alright, wait help me out here, when Korra was unbalanced didn't she just lose to everyone? Like that random earth bender, Kuvira, Toph etc?

Her fights with Toph and the random earth bender were with the poison. She lost to Kuvira while unbalanced (not that an insane Azula would've won), but she was handling Kuvira's followers when she rescued Prince Wu

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@arcus: Azula's insanity was a mental block inhibiting her composure and exhausting her quicker then normally during fights. Korra's problems we're extremely more detrimental, coupled with the fact that since this is in character, could she even kill or knockout Azula during this point in time when her block prevented her from killing Kuvira?

Azula's mental block didn't prevent her from killing anyone and she also kept a strategizing mindset through the whole ordeal. She attacked Katara instead of Azula to remove Zuko, saved Sokka from the plant monster in order to have more numbers to fight it. She is crazy but not dumb. Also, Aang mentioned that there was some hope for her indicating that her illness maybe going away, though this is speculation on his part.

You mentioned agility wise Azula had the upper hand. I could also argue that she still had her old feats of strength, albeit less refined. Korra was extremely unimpressive during that fight. I'd say she clearly has more raw strength then Korra during this time.

Korra also hasn't seen a whole lot of activity in the past three years, was off her games, suffering from PTSD, and experienced hallucinations which literally and metaphorically fought against her. The extent of Korra's problems were extremely severe and Azula takes both rounds imo.

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@koays said:

Round 1 Korra. Azula insane doesn't have much of her agility feats and has pretty much been handled by Zuko with minimal bending. Korra can win with the level of earth vending she used on Kuvira.

Round 2- Azula. Lightning is fast and Korra's reaction time is down. If Azula pulls it out randomly it'll probably hit her.

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination

This.

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@sean12345:

Korra was unable to kill Kuvira as a result of spiritual inbalance hindering her in the AS. She ko'ed Kuvira's supporters just fine, so it's not that she can't ko people

Both are limited to the feats they showed during their insanity/unbalanced period

Azula's problems were pretty severe as well, she had hallucinations as much as if not more than Korra

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#45  Edited By johnfrank120

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@koays said:

Round 1 Korra. Azula insane doesn't have much of her agility feats and has pretty much been handled by Zuko with minimal bending. Korra can win with the level of earth vending she used on Kuvira.

Round 2- Azula. Lightning is fast and Korra's reaction time is down. If Azula pulls it out randomly it'll probably hit her.

Really could end in a double KO by hallucination

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@arcus: nothing ever suggested or demonstrated via show or comic stated that Azula's power was hindered by her insanity. Her usual grace and refinement however was hampered quite a lot.

She was making equally powerful flames as Zuko was during SC. Which means if we put her at Zuko's level of power it would still be above Korra imo who hasn't demonstrated any agility or strength feats on par with Azula insane. Briefly held her own against members of Team Avatar including Aang, fought evenly with Zuko when she was trying to get the letter proving she was the rightful heir to the throne, fend of spirits, and was able to dodge and burn the swamp vines and saved Sokka before Katara came and bent the vines.

Korra's hallucinations again manifested to a point where it was attacking her. If you wanna say it's because of the poison I guess you could, however, there is still trauma from her fight with Zaheer. Zaheer quite literally ruined her. Ursa constantly expressed her love to Azula which infuriated her to attack team avatar time and time again as well as jump off of Appa. She did ignore Ursa quite a bit as well so she could resist it to a certain extent. It was bad of course, I just feel that Korra's imbalance affected her to a greater degree then Azula's insanity.

The intelligence is still there, the power is there, the agility is there, the refinement is the only matter which she lacks. It really goes by how powerful you gauge the opponents they both faced. Korra couldn't even touch Kuvira while Azula at least put up a fight with people who are somewhat in the same vicinity of power as Kuvira.

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@sean12345:

Azula got put down by Zuko relatively quickly each time they fought (quicker when she used lifghtning), and Zuko didn't even want to fight her. In one of their fights she couldn't touch him and was yelling at him to stand still. Yeah, she burned vines, that's good, but I don't see how it puts her above Korra in a stomp.

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@arcus: Never said it was going to be a stomp. She was trying to get the note, I assume she's being careful not burn him completely since her golden ticket was on him. As she was getting up to leave Zuko grabbed her.

Want to address the agility or power feats between the two?

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@sean12345: Azula didn't care about him. Zuko, however, was trying to not hurt Azula. Not to mention the other times Zuko took down Azula easily

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@arcus: She still managed to hold her own to a certain degree. Keep in mind Zuko post series is also very strong able to potentially give Kuvira a good run for her money. What would you say Korra has done that could take down Azula?