Awakening Douglas Bullet vs Karma Jigen

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Poll: Awakening Douglas Bullet vs Karma Jigen (44 votes)

Bullet fairly easy 30%
Jigen curbstomps 66%
Stalemate 5%

All-out

No prep

No morals

Both sides have knowledge

Any win conditions

Location: Punk Hazard, 50 feet apart

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Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

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@wot_m8 said:

Hahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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Really, now?

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lmao at a One Piece character vs. A Naruto God tier.

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Jigen Rekts.

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INB4 the lock

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This guy has not feats to stand a chance to someone like douglas.

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What are jigens feats though?

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jigen probably.

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@yray: great taijutsu skills, shrink object and himself, space-time Ninjutsu, absorbing energy/chakra based attack, outpaced and outskilled both Adult Naruto and Sasuke. Fodderizing those country level dudes, one-shotted them with no effort.

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Naruto and sasuke country? Wtf

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@stealthgrey: thas not even small country level, the final blow of naruto a sasuke is like large island level, an those individuals RS bijudamas of naruro are island level.

Theres nothing continent level on naruto.

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Violent shockwaves alone of their final clash were felt and nearly blew away Kakashi and Sakura who were in a different country lol.

But sure, Island level final Clash indeed.

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For the Naruto and Sasuke feat up above:

That attack was Planetary+ to Large Planet level

At least Moon Level

Bare Minimum: Multi Continental

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So it seen Bullet getting major Hype. But from what I heard he island to country if so Jigen one shot. He damn near one shot Adult Naruto & Sasuke who would solo One Piece verse easy.

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#19  Edited By Arthur_Morgan

You ppl need new eyes.

Idc what the AP of that atack was , surely higher than island level but AoE its nowhere near country level let alone continent.

Seriosly whats up with you?

and animefreak at it again.

This guy probably got sharingan on a whole new level.

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@wot_m8 said:

Violent shockwaves alone of their final clash were felt and nearly blew away Kakashi and Sakura who were in a different country lol.

But sure, Island level final Clash indeed.

OT: Jigen smacks.

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You ppl need new eyes.

Idc what the AP of that atack was , surely higher than island level but AoE its nowhere near country level let alone continent.

Seriosly whats up with you?

and animefreak at it again.

This guy probably got sharingan on a whole new level.

Ot: Jigen stomps

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OP fans cannot handle the slightest drop of hype smh

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@wot_m8:

A shockwave that get away to another "country" does not mean that the attack is country level, we can see perfectly the range of the explosion an is not more than island-large island level.

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@omnihater: they’re talking about potency not DC

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Jigen stomps.

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@ecoblitz:

Whats the diference?

We might compare characters with the energy that requires their feats, no something like separate DC from potency, when is like the same thing.

If they are talking about range of naruto by their shockswave, is another thing, the shockwave does not had like enough power to destroy a country neither.

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#27  Edited By Tyki_Mikk25

@wot_m8:

Kakashi and Sakura are in the very near of the battle, when you see the final clash, the Shinjuu Tree is right in that panel, I doubt that the distance of both country are very large. The distance between Kakashi and the place of the clash is at best 10-20km.

None of the attacks are even near at Country lvl let alone Continent lvl.

Island lvl sound fine for these feats.

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@tyki_mikk25: Nein. Kakashi and Sakura were in frost country where the fourth war took place.

Final battle took place at the Valley of the end which is in Fire country. Then there is also Hot water country in between the two... so no.

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@wot_m8:

What no? This is basically a fact that the valley of the end was right next to the frost country. The distance between these countrys aren't big, you can basically see the shinju tree right next to valley of the end and their is the position of Sakura and Kakashi. The distance is maximum 10-20km and not more.

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#30  Edited By Wot_m8

@tyki_mikk25 said:

@wot_m8:

What no? This is basically a fact that the valley of the end was right next to the frost country. The distance between these countrys aren't big, you can basically see the shinju tree right next to valley of the end and their is the position of Sakura and Kakashi. The distance is maximum 10-20km and not more.

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There is literally a small country between frost country and Valle of the End. Your lowball is seriously blowing my mind.

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Douglas has no answers to Jigen's BFR.

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God tier Mismatch.

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@omnihater: what’s the difference between potency and dc?

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#34  Edited By Omnihater

@ecoblitz:

I dont use the "potency" terminology, is the same thing that DC.

Range or AoE, is other thing, an attack can have a Dc of mountain level and his AoE is like Cityblock.

In this case the attack is like island level or maybe large islann, but his shockwave is country level, but the shockwave does not have the real DC of the explosion is only AoE

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Jigen stomps.

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@wot_m8 said:
@tyki_mikk25 said:

@wot_m8:

What no? This is basically a fact that the valley of the end was right next to the frost country. The distance between these countrys aren't big, you can basically see the shinju tree right next to valley of the end and their is the position of Sakura and Kakashi. The distance is maximum 10-20km and not more.

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There is literally a small country between frost country and Valle of the End. Your lowball is seriously blowing my mind.

Can you pls stop this nonsense and your own calculation about the place where Sakura and Kakashi beeing via using fanficition speculation. It isn´t me who draw basically the panel with the Shinjuu tree beeing right next to the valley of the end, it was the own Naruto mangaka himself who draw that shit:

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You can see the Shinjuu tree, your claim doesn´t make any sense at this point if we using the manga panel(their are tons of other panels where we see that the Shinju tree was next to the valley of the end). Their is no way based on these panels that the distance between Valley of the end and Shinjuu tree is country size let alone island large.

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#37  Edited By Wot_m8

@tyki_mikk25: War took place in Frost country. VOTE is in Fire country. According to the map, there is another country in between.

Idc about your feelings or your lowball. You can keep denying it all you want lol. Shinju being visible from VOTE is a testament to irs size not its position. And yes, it was Kishimoto who gave us the map to Elemental nations. According to him, war took place in frost country. Two countries away from VOTE.

Facts > Your opinion. Now stop bothering me with your idiocy and inability to read a map.

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@wot_m8 said:

@tyki_mikk25: War took place in Frost country. VOTE is in Fire country. According to the map, there is another country in between.

Idc about your feelings or your lowball. You can keep denying it all you want lol. Shinju being visible from VOTE is a testament to irs size not its position. And yes, it was Kishimoto who gave us the map to Elemental nations. According to him, war took place in frost country. Two countries away from VOTE.

Facts > Your opinion. Now stop bothering me with your idiocy and inability to read a map.

Stop beeing such a fool and read the manga again, the Shinju tree is at best big as a mountain as we can visible see in that panel. Do you need other panels of Shinjuu tree beeing in the near of Valley of the end??

Here we go again because Naruto fans are totally in denying to accept the manga facts.

And before we do this again, where it was confirmed that the war(at least the final battle against Obito) was in frost country. You guys come up with a visible map and saying by fancalcs that the war placed in frost country, yet it wasn´t confirmed. And even if, it would only show again that the distance between the Shinjuu tree and the Valley at the end isn´t large as you say here.

Fact one, Sasuke using Chibaku tensai on the Bijuus:

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The big stone Chibaku tensai are in the near of the Shinjuu tree as we all can see here.

And later when Sasuke and Naruto fight in valley of the end:

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And surprise surprise look at we see here, the 9 Bijuu stones and the Shinjuu tree, right after the place of valley of the end.

The stones basically are just near to Sasuke as we can see in this battle:

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The lake is the same as the one with the valley of the end. Alone by these panels shows that the place between Valley of the end and the Shinjuu tree isn´t that large. Literally manga facts with we get onpanel, outside of your headcanon(and thank god we don´t accept nonsense bullshit headcanon here in CV ^-^) you totally fail to see the visible aspect in the manga.

Manga Panels and Facts>>>>>>>>>>>Your Headcanon

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Jigen till stomps

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#42  Edited By Co-Boss

@tyki_mikk25: how are you gonna deny what’s literally on the map made by kishimoto? We know the valley of the end is in fire country, we know the war took place in the frost country, we know water country is in between. There is no denying any of that, it’s like saying that America isn’t in between Mexico and Canada, it’s just a fact that it is.

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When ever one piece gets a new character it goes right up against Naruto and bleach god tiers and as usual the god tiers stomps

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@tyki_mikk25:

The lake is the same as the one with the valley of the end.

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This is false. That's not a lake you're seeing there, its the ocean south of the frost country. You're looking at a perspective that's facing the west from within the frost country towards the fire country. Not the other way around. That should give you a scale on the level that Naruto and Sasuke are fighting at.

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@azureus:

So...

Are you telling me that the space between the god tree and the chibakus has the size of a real country?

Lol.

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@azureus:

So...

Are you telling me that the space between the god tree and the chibakus has the size of a real country?

Lol.

Yes. If you read the chapter before, you'd see that Sasuke pulled the CTs to the final valley (located on the border of the fire and sound country) from the frost country. According to the world map that means Sasuke pulled them across an entire country away from the shinjuu tree.

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So yes, there is a country sized space there.

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@azureus:

I dont care if kishimoto says that the space between those places have the size of a country.

What he draw does not make any sense, thats way to small to be a country.

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#48  Edited By Adi_Frost

@tyki_mikk25 said:

@wot_m8:

What no? This is basically a fact that the valley of the end was right next to the frost country. The distance between these countrys aren't big, you can basically see the shinju tree right next to valley of the end and their is the position of Sakura and Kakashi. The distance is maximum 10-20km and not more.

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Oh look! Mountains and lakes are visibl.........Oh wait.......

You have gone long enough with your lowball.

Here is a panning shot of the Naruto earth in The last movie(see above). I guess if the distance between the countries isn't big(only 20KM (loooooool), according to you) then the mountains should be EASILY visible in these shots but hey guess what, they aren't visible. Not even in the slightest.

Naruto takes place on a supercontinent which is equal to what it would be if all continents on earth were stuck together. You are official debunked factually.

"What no? This is basically a fact"

Nope, it's delusion.

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#49  Edited By Adi_Frost

@tyki_mikk25 said:
@wot_m8 said:

@tyki_mikk25: War took place in Frost country. VOTE is in Fire country. According to the map, there is another country in between.

Idc about your feelings or your lowball. You can keep denying it all you want lol. Shinju being visible from VOTE is a testament to irs size not its position. And yes, it was Kishimoto who gave us the map to Elemental nations. According to him, war took place in frost country. Two countries away from VOTE.

Facts > Your opinion. Now stop bothering me with your idiocy and inability to read a map.

Stop beeing such a fool and read the manga again, the Shinju tree is at best big as a mountain as we can visible see in that panel. Do you need other panels of Shinjuu tree beeing in the near of Valley of the end??

Here we go again because Naruto fans are totally in denying to accept the manga facts.

And before we do this again, where it was confirmed that the war(at least the final battle against Obito) was in frost country. You guys come up with a visible map and saying by fancalcs that the war placed in frost country, yet it wasn´t confirmed. And even if, it would only show again that the distance between the Shinjuu tree and the Valley at the end isn´t large as you say here.

Fact one, Sasuke using Chibaku tensai on the Bijuus:

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The big stone Chibaku tensai are in the near of the Shinjuu tree as we all can see here.

And later when Sasuke and Naruto fight in valley of the end:

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And surprise surprise look at we see here, the 9 Bijuu stones and the Shinjuu tree, right after the place of valley of the end.

The stones basically are just near to Sasuke as we can see in this battle:

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The lake is the same as the one with the valley of the end. Alone by these panels shows that the place between Valley of the end and the Shinjuu tree isn´t that large. Literally manga facts with we get onpanel, outside of your headcanon(and thank god we don´t accept nonsense bullshit headcanon here in CV ^-^) you totally fail to see the visible aspect in the manga.

Manga Panels and Facts>>>>>>>>>>>Your Headcanon

"Stop beeing such a fool and read the manga again, the Shinju tree is at best big as a mountain"

This is not even worth responding. When the tree began to form, the mere roots of the tree before being full size were already far above mountain sized and 3x to 4x times taller than the mountains below it. This was just the roots while growing and small in size.

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"where it was confirmed that the war(at least the final battle against Obito) was in frost country"

It was stated by the alliance headquarters. Go read it again. Anyway, the geography also says that. Not to mention we even know the specific place where they are fighting. It's is called "the graveyard of mountains" or "mountain graveyard".

"You guys come up with a visible map and saying by fancalcs that the war placed in frost country, yet it wasn´t confirmed. And even if, it would only show again that the distance between the Shinjuu tree and the Valley at the end isn´t large as you say here."

Keep crying. The final stage of war took place in the frost country. It is a visual fact and STATED fact. Crying isn't gonna change that. Already proved with a planetary short about the BS that you spread.

"The big stone Chibaku tensai are in the near of the Shinjuu tree as we all can see here."

In literally the panel before this statement of yours, you can see the CT and how small they are. lol

The next shot is nothing but Kishi tweaking the sizes so that it is visible to the viewer about where the CT is cause in reality, it wouldn't be visible from this far away.

"The lake is the same as the one with the valley of the end"

You always keep saying BS to others to prove it. Let me do it to you. PROVE IT. Prove that it's the same lake and not another lake that Naruto and Sasuke reached by flying over too high.

We all know that is not the lake but the ocean to the south of the frost country. That is a shot from a different direction and it's evident as the CT seems to be over the land which comes after the OCEAN that you can see while if the ocean was the lake (as you think) then the CT should be over the ocean but they are not, they are over the land( a small lake is there which is not visible to us cause of the mountains). Naruto and Sasuke were fighting flying over multiple countries.

"Alone by these panels shows that the place between Valley of the end and the Shinjuu tree isn´t that large"

Debunked by the space shot that I posted before this reply.

"outside of your headcanon"

Outside of our headcanon is your BS.

"and thank god we don´t accept nonsense bullshit headcanon here in CV ^-^"

Some do. Hence why you are able to speak here.

"Manga Panels and Facts>>>>>>>>>>>Your Headcanon"

Everything else >>>>>>>> your BS.

Now, answer a few questions.

You say the distance between these 2 countries is barely 20Km or so.

Then tell me, why aren't the deserts and forests that the war took place on visible? Why aren't the other countries and their villages visible?

Why isn't the hidden leaf village visible as the forest of death is 20KM in diameter and the leaf village is bigger than that?

The leaf village is ridiculously smaller than the fire nation as on the map, the leaf village is as big as a dot to the fire country. Same for every other great nation who are all the similar size or bigger than the fire nation and their villages are also pretty big. Why aren't they visible?

When deidara blew himself up, his explosion reached a height of 40KM in height and we saw a shot of it from a height of nearly the mid point of the height of the explosion i.e from 20KM high, then why were the other countries and villages, etc not visible ?

Why is that on the naruto map, seas and oceans are visible from the VOTE "lake" isn't visible as an area which is bigger than the frost and hot water country combined? According to your logic, we can clearly see that the "lake" is larger than the frost and the hot water country, so it should be visible on the map near the sound nation. Why not ?

And if the countries are as small as you mentioned then why wasn't the curvature of the world visible from that much height? The shot should have been from space and deidara's explosion should have reached the exosphere.

We know that the size of the moon is huge. Same as ours. We can see entire island systems inside the moon. The moon is easily at least a 100km (let's lowball and use your logic) then how come it isn't the same size or similar size to that of Naruto earth? It should be, according to your logic.

Why aren't the mountains and "lakes" visible from the space shot in Naruto the Last if the the distance between fire and frost nation is barely 20km which makes the lake of VOE bigger than the entire frost nation and hot water nation combined ?

In boruto anime (CANON) we see momoshiki, kinshiki and urashiki close to the Naruto earth, looked like the exosphere as it was still space, and we couldn't make out any landscape on the planet. The mountains and lakes weren't visible which should be considering the size of the countries that you stated and the lake that you showed which is bigger than the entire frost country using your logic. Why?

Why did it take ninjas who can run faster than trains and cars really easily take 3 days at a good enough speed without rest to reach the village hidden in the sand from the leaf village? It's just a few KM so it should have been done in minutes.

In Boruto anime, Boruto has been travelling over countries. And we have seen how much time it takes for them to run to borders, etc. Large patches of land dozens of KM's in size could be seen in singular grounded shots of the anime which are a small part of the outskirts of the countries. How come that is possible? dozens of KM's mean bigger than the frost country using your logic and statements.

We also seen in the Boruto anime that the hidden stone village is humoungous in size. Dozens of KM's in just visible shots and we didn't even see all of it. So I guess the stone village is bigger than the frost country and quarter the size of the rock nation. How is that possible?

Itachi vs Sasuke takes place on a hill which is at least 1KM high. And we see panned shots of the area they are in which is humongous and there were multiple of these hills in far away distance and the rest of the area was covered in forest and outside all of it was a mountain range. How come this wasn't visible in the shots from Naruto vs Sasuke's VOTE fight ? cause that area was bigger than the frost country and probably half the size of the fire nation using you logic.

Naruto vs Gaara part 1 fight took place in a similar humongous forested area. Why wasn't that visible?

Now the quintessential question. How come all these humongous areas exist inside the same planet when the entirety of the landmass is barely 100km in size using your logic?

It makes 0 sense and we know for a fact that the final stage of war took place in the frost country. That is indisputable stated fact.

People need to learn to distinguish between shots that are clearly made and have the purpose of giving the size of an object/area/person, to other shots.

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@azureus:

I dont care if kishimoto says that the space between those places have the size of a country.

What he draw does not make any sense, thats way to small to be a country.

Or in other words you reject canon for your headcanon.