Avengers vs JLA (big teams)

All 6 avengers teams against all JLA members ever in the new52

ANAD avengers: Thor/Jane, nova, ms marvel/kamala, spiderman/miles, ironman, vision and captain America/falcon

New avengers: songbird, Hawkeye/Clint, Wiccan, Hulkling, powerman/ victor, white tiger (has her powers) and POD

Uncanny avengers: Cable, Captain America (Steve Rogers), Deadpool, Doctor Voodoo, Human Torch, Quicksilver, Rogue, Stingray

Squadron Supreme: Blur, Doctor Spectrum, Hyperion, Nighthawk, Thundra

Ultimates: Black Panther, Blue Marvel, Captain Marvel, Ms. America, Spectrum

A-force: Captain Marvel, Dazzler, Medusa, She-Hulk (Jen Walters), Singularity, Sister Grimm

JLA: Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Aquaman, Shazam, Green Lantern (Baz), Green Lantern (Cruz), Lex Luthor, Batman, Wonder Woman, Green Arrow, Black Lightning, Hawkman, Vixen, Zatanna, Goldrush, Black Canary, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Atomica, Element Woman, Firestorm (Jason Rusch), Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond), Captain Cold

Rules:

1)All current version (no God mode for DC, if a character is currently dead it will be the way it was before death) (new avengers have anything AIM gave them during this run) (ironman has statement feats)

2)all the teams in marvel are working as Separate units leads by their respective leader but also cooperate with each other perfectly

3) no time travel bulshit!

4) everyone has their current resources to use during the prep time (aim can help prep the new avengers, every team prep only itself but they can communicate with each other so every team will prep for different frets or something. the JLA prep together as a group)

They fight in the desert away from human population

Round 1: random encounter

Round 2: 1 week prep, no knowledge

Rounds 3: 1 week of prep with basic knowledge

Round 4: 1 month of prep with full knowledge

Who will win? and why?

Flash solos

Such an original thread....

justice league

JLA wins rounds 1 - 4

@evil-incarnate: @apex_pretador: explain

@thekinfing: Exactly

Doctor Voodoo, Nova, Wiccan, Blue Marvel & Deadpool are quite a few factors in here.

Especially Wiccan & Doctor Voodoo.

They can disfigure the other team as Hulkling and the other ones back Wiccan and Voodoo up and protect them while they produce spells on the enemy team.

@tantani: JLA has too many powerhouses. WW, Superman, Flash, MM, GL's, 2 Firestorm's, CM, etc are all team wreckers. DC standards operate on a higher level. Then for prep battles you have Batman and Lex with access to Zatanna, etc. Honestly I feel bad for the likes of Thor and Hyperion because physically they'll be among the last standing and it would suck to watch your team beaten to death at FTL speeds.

no time travel bulshit!

FLash still solos. Post9: this

@evil-incarnate: that's why I used all the avengers team

They have many powerhouses that can react and compete with the DC team such as POD, Thor, Hyperion blue marvel, ms America, captain marvel etc....

And each team has thier respective prep geniuses and AIM is preparing 1 of the teams

Should I add squirrel girl?? ;)

@tantani: That's how you feel, but I see them getting stomped and apparently so do the others in this thread

@evil-incarnate: i know that how you see that but all the DC fanboys are just "flash/batman solo" but no proofs

Both avengers and JLA has many street, mid and high level heroes, I don't believe it is 1 side fight

@tantani: They say that because this thread is obvious to most, but apparently you that the JLA wins. The Marvel team lacks serious speed in comparison. Furthermore many incarnations of the Avengers can arguably be taken by one or two people from the JLA. You seem to think numbers = it's fair, but it doesn't look like you took power levels and abilities into account except where you nerfed the DC team. Avengers die. Thor's not gonna help, Hyperion isn't saving the day either. So on and so forth.

Too many factors.

JLA is loaded.

@silverplatinum: how and why the heck is deadpool a factor among powerhouses like Blue Marvel?

@divinedebater: Because after his movie his popularity has risen making him a factor in situations where he's a nonfactor. ?

Added A-force

More equal now??

There is too much going on here

Exactly, also no idea why there's a bunch of street levellers here as well.

I really love battle threads with gazillion characters. Always fun. Here are are the relevant ones imo:

ANAD: Thor, Nova, IM and Vision

New: Wiccan (hax), POD (Hickman version was OP, this one isn't)

Uncanny: Rogue, Voodoo (this team sucks)

Supreme: Hyperion, Doctor Spectrum, maaybe Blur (Flash probably destroys all the speedsters on Marvel team)

Ultimates: Everyone except Carol. She is overrated as hell. BP is a unique case.

A-Force: This is a joke team. Singularity

vs

JLA: Cyborg, Flash, Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Aquaman, Shazam, Green Lantern (Baz), Green Lantern (Cruz), Lex Luthor, Batman, Wonder Woman, Zatanna, Superman, Martian Manhunter, Atomica, Element Woman, Firestorm (Jason Rusch), Firestorm (Ronnie Raymond), Captain Cold

Others get in the way as nuisances.

DC team should have R1.

IM and BP are very good with prep and can utilize magic/ science but Batman and Lex are pretty good as well.

DC should get a majority every round except the last one. With full knowledge Marvel team can take 6-7/10.

dc wins

@divinedebater: I was joking! ?

Avengers might lose but i don't think they get stomped between Blue Marvel, Hyperion, Thor, Monica Rambeau, Ms America, Quicksilver, Ironman, Captain Marvel, Vision, Nova, Dr Voodoo, and Wiccan they should be powerful enough to not get stomped at least Monica can take multiple powerhouses her self.

Superman solos. Marvel team have never dealt with anyone weird supermans powers

eh

Justice League wins, duh

Superman gets stomped by nico lol. Flash is the only problem, but he isn't soloing shit.

Justice League wins but barely.

@tantani: add some heavy hitters on the side of Marvel...johnny blaze.World War Hulk... etc

Superman could practically solo these teams.

Avengers

@blackpantherisb: Superman and 99% of Team DC get beat by Spectrum with minimal effort.

@p00ty: What feats does Spectrum to put her above Superman?

spite JLA stomps

It's her skill set, in character regularly moves at speed of light and in pure energy forms making her immune to most JLA including Superman.

@green_skaar: Superman is still above her in speed and does she stay in energy forms for entire battles? Because if she lets up her guard couldn't he just one shot her? I'm not very knowledgeable on her.

Yes she does. It's just a bad match up, that's all, due to her power-set.

@green_skaar: Fair enough I'll have to do some more research on her in the future.

@xxdeathmakerxx: nah

I believe it was fair when I opened it (which was more than a year ago

@tantani: KK

Avengers stomp.