Avengers (MCU) vs. Hargreeves Family (Umbrella Academy)

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In Character

All are at their best.

3 Minutes Prep.

Location - Crowded Football Stadium

Teams start 100 yards apart.

All have standard weapons and gear.

Five can use an Adamantium Sword in this fight.

Win by Incapacitation or Death.

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Vanya, Allison, Klaus and 5 all solo.

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I realise I have been kinda lowballing how powerful Vanya is even when not charged up.

For some reason I thought Vanya had only KO'd these soldiers but I have realised that she actually killed all of them with that single pulse.

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Using just her heartbeat she blew down this heavily armored door. And later destroyed the entire mansion in short order.

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A casual blast from Vanya did this.

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She also blew up the side of a building with a single blast.

And TK strength wise she did this. Casually held up all this water with no effort.

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Know none of this is on the caliber of Thor/Hulk or even enough to say she wouldn't struggle against Ironman. But this is without charging.

When charged she did this.

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She destroyed the moon with a single blast. Assuming her TK power grew as much as her blast power did when she charged up on sound and emotion then she can hold the Avengers with ease and probably crush them. Even without crushing she solos nearly everything in the verse with this blast. Guys like Surtur and even Ego would get one shot by this blast let alone anyone on the actual Avengers team.

Not to mention it is never made clear how much she actually needed to charge and how it is insinuated she could go of the rails and destroy the planet again threw at season 2 it is reasonable to say it doesn't take her that long to build up power.

Now in a straight 1v6 Thor or Hulk and potentially Ironman could probably put her down before she can actually kill them. With the rest of the academy it is made more difficult. They are for the most part fodder but Five with an adamantium sword will be cutting them apart and protecting Vanya while she unleashes the heavy hits. The fight will obviously be loud absorbing the sound and using it to blast the avengers will be devastating.

Overall it is close but despite everything in this post if I had to lean towards a team it would probably be the Avengers.

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@money_brings_happiness: Maybe put on a spoiler block, bot everyone saw S2 yet.

Also, Klaus and Allison aren't really fodder. Allison says "I heard a rumour you attacked your own team" to Thor or Hulk and then they have extra force. Klaus can potentially summon Thanos and other MCU villains.

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The Hargreeves Family stomp hard.

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@bramvanelteren:Allison in character barely uses her powers and almost always engages with her fist. She loses to any of the Avengers in character. Klaus has never summoned a villain like Thanos and has no knowledge here to do so. He has never conjured up a powered person other than Ben and Ben is merely an inconvenience to Thor,Hulk or Ironman. Maybe in the future seasons he will get some more feats though until then there is not a single way he is not getting fried by lightning.

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#7  Edited By Namebk

@money_brings_happiness: How long did it take for her to charge to bust the moon? Also does she have any speed or reaction feats?

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@money_brings_happiness: Tbh, if the family is attacked Allison will use her powers and we have already seen that happen. Klaus while he might not be able to summon Thanos he could summon an army.

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@namebk: She played her violin for a concert of sorts for what would be around 5-10 minutes in verse or at least somewhat around that time IIRC the entire scene correctly maybe a more though whether that amount of time was actually necessary is unknown and probably unlikely imo.

She is also super fast in reaction speed.

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This isn't even her best reaction feat. She blocks bullets on more then one occasion but her best is stopping a tank shell from close range. I believe the tank shell could be fired at potentially up to mach 5.

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It is also uncertain if Vanya was even fully charged or if she can even be fully charged power wise when she destroyed the moon. Had she played her violin for a little longer the moon could have very likely been blown away even more violently.

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Vanya could solo

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@money_brings_happiness: If Allison is fighting other very obvious Superhumans, I think she'd be a lot more likely to break her powers out quick.

Why gove Five an Adamantium sword? Seems kinda unfair.

As for the fight, I'd say Avengers wins pretty easily. Ironman can take out half of them via firing energy blast in quick sucession. And I imagine that would be his response after Vanya opens the fight with her energy wave effectively Ko'ing Black Widow at the very least.

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If Vanya is fully charged with her violin then she could arguably one shot the whole of Team 1.

Hulk is obviously immensely stronger than Luther though.

Alison could completely hax most of them if they're in range considering how they were all manipulated by Wanda.

Hulk and Thor are the two biggest factors for Team 1 but I believe Vanya could lead Team 2 to victory.

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Mcu Thor took a blast from a Neutron Star... Moon busting isn’t enough to take him down.

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#15  Edited By GangOrca

@avengergamer676 said:

Mcu Thor took a blast from a Neutron Star... Moon busting isn’t enough to take him down.

lol even the extremely wanked/highballed calc of that feat is only country level given how small the star is and how most of the energy didn't go to Thor. Not to mention that feat is an extreme outlier compared to all of his other performances. Thor fanboys gotta realize their god isn't invincible.

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#16  Edited By Avengergamer676

@gangorca: most of the energy didn’t go to Thor? Are you high? You don’t know anything about Neutron stars, which are the second most powerful thing in the real universe. Get your goofy ass out of here.

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Mcu Thor took a blast from a Neutron Star... Moon busting isn’t enough to take him down.

He almost died to Sokovia explosion though

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@avengergamer676: Shall I compare the radius of the blast to Thor's surface area that encompassed it just so you understand? The star was also hilariously small so it wouldn't be producing the same levels of energy as a neutron star of real life size. Also, black holes and supernovas are two things much more powerful than a neutron star.

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@gangorca: Supernovas are different, and a black hole is 100% more powerful. I agree with you on that.

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@hydratedfubuki6: that was a weaker version of Thor.

Oh you mean post-Ragnarok?

He was also knocked out and badly harmed by the explosion of the power stone in the beginning of IW, the debris of the ship aren't vaporized but only shattered.

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The family wins, with Vanya as MVP. And in-character, Allison will use her tk/reality warping if her family is in danger, they’re obviously in danger here.

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#24  Edited By imagein

The family wins, with Vanya as MVP. And in-character, Allison will use her tk/reality warping if her family is in danger, they’re obviously in danger here.

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@avengergamer676: He can teleport the adamantium sword in them. He's faster than anyone on the team in combat speed.

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#26  Edited By BruceAndTheBeast

"I heard a rumor that you all surrendered..."

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Allison or Vanya could solo.

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As what i see from season 1 , the avengers curbstomp , seriously the hargreen struggle again Hazel and cha cha , i don't see how they can beat the avengers ....

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Hargreeves stomp, especially because Fives has that sword so he's able to hurt people, even without Vanya being able to take down Hulk/Thor Fives could kill them with that sword rather easily

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Anybody (except for Black Widow and Hawkeye) from the Avengers can solo this... 🤦🏻

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Anybody (except for Black Widow and Hawkeye) from the Avengers can solo this... 🤦🏻

lol at Cap soloing.

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@gangorca: It's true... Anybody from the Avengers will take this as an easy win...

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@gangorca: It's true... Anybody from the Avengers will take this as an easy win...

He isn't taking Vanya and Alison with the others as distractions.

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@gangorca: No, Captain America solos the whole team with absolute ease... 😂 🤦🏻

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#35  Edited By GangOrca

@angelwithl said:

@gangorca: No, Captain America solos the whole team with absolute ease... 😂 🤦🏻

No he doesn't. Klaus and Five alone would distract Cap long enough for Alison to make him hear a rumor or for Vanya to destroy him. At least, if they are bloodlusted and not in-character.

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Luther strugle again Hazel , Diego strugle again cha cha , Five was stomped by the assassin in the hallway , klaus army of dead would be useless again Thor or Hulk , Vanya is insanly powerfull but pretty sure wanda can stand again her , i don't see how the hargreeves can win here....

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@gangorca: No... Just no... Captain America one-shots all of them at once...

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#38  Edited By GangOrca
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@gangorca: Bruh... You do realize that I am joking, right? 🤦🏻

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@gangorca: Bruh... You do realize that I am joking, right? 🤦🏻

I thought you were serious. It's hard to tell with your original comment since you did make exceptions about Black Widow and Hawkeye.

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OMG i forgot how Hulk ugly is here 🤢🤢🤢🤮.

Btw Avengers stomp

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#44  Edited By Ccbm2208

The academy probably wins here but one thing I'm sure of is that Luther will be a non factor . He is so vulnerable to physical attacks and random huge guys can box him . Lmao.

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Hargreeves. In Five we trust.

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#46  Edited By bruhmoment6

infinty war thor should solo them all

thor was almost able to kill thanos who had full infinity gauntlet and he survived sokiva he wins this hands down

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Vanya or allison can solo