Avengers (MCU) Vs. Guardians of The Galaxy

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Avengers:

War Machine, Hawkeye, Captain America, Black Widow, and Black Panther.

Guardians:

Rocket Raccoon, Groot, Star Lord, Gamora, and Drax.

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Bonus Round:

Avengers and Loki vs. Guardians and Ronan The Accuser (no gem)

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  • Random encounter
  • Start 100 ft apart

Fight here:

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Who wins?

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#2 juiceboks  Moderator

Tony and Scott solo.

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The trash panda solos

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So far GotG are decidedly street level, while Tony and arguably Scott are way above that. The Cap alone should prove bothersome for the GotG crew IMO.

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If Groot wasn't there. I'm sure Cap could Solo them. The Guardians get humiliated

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#6  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

Iron Man could beat everyone here if he fights smart

and has enough ammo

and keeps his distance

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Alright, this seems one-sided for the Avengers, so I will replace Ant Man with Hawkeye, and Iron Man with War Machine.

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war machine's mini gun solo.

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Avengers p. Easily, even when ronan fights for the Gotg, they can't last too long

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#10  Edited By basicfan30

This entirely depends on if War Machine can do enough damage to Groot. which i'd say is 6/10 for WM.

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WM can easily riddle them with bullets.

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Avengers.

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#14  Edited By ToffeeX

@lucano: yes, the guardians of the *galaxy* are street level lmao

@Mee09: trolling? Cap has no way of even putting down drax, lmao gamora is more durable and more skilled than him, rocket could put him down with one shot, and star lord could easily beat him in a dance off.

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@toffeex: Show me a single video from any of them who is above street level.

The best feat from any of them is Groot's branches shield... And I highly doubt it will be of any use in this fight.

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Lol the team you mentioned are not Avengers, there's only one Avenger there, and it's the weakest one. Never in the history of the MCU has been a Marvel Avengers team like this. This is literally like all part-timer human members assosiated with the Avengers put together and you call them Avengers? Change the title or the picture or the OP. Because nothing is in place here.

War Machine? - Not an Avenger. He stole Tonys suit and works for the government. Never had his solo movie like every Avenger had.

Hawkeye, Black Widow - Not an Avenger. He/She is an assasin who works for Fury the entire time and only helps out the Avengers team when Fury wants them to help them. He//She never had his solo movie like every Avenger had.

Black Panther - Not an Avenger. He is a solo player and actually fought Avengers more then helped them so far.

Captain America - The only Avenger in the team, but also the weakest one and the guy responsible for strategy, not the muscle. He can kick ass of other humans, but super-villains? Yeah, check again his fight with Loki and see how that went.

So that's like 4 extras with no super abilities and a single, weakest Avenger. And you put them against Guardians who have 2 super humans, a rat version of Iron Man, a tree version of Hulk and only ONE human? Yeah.. that's totally fair.

seriously now, obviously Guardians stomp this team.

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#18  Edited By SupremeGeneration  Online

@thoromdil:

Hawkeye, Black Widow - Not an Avenger. He/She is an assasin who works for Fury the entire time and only helps out the Avengers team when Fury wants them to help them. He//She never had his solo movie like every Avenger had.

Wtf is this? Have you seen any Avengers movie ever? Hawkeye and Black Widow are Avengers, I laughed and cringed so hard while reading this.

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trolling? Cap has no way of even putting down drax, lmao gamora is more durable and more skilled than him, rocket could put him down with one shot, and star lord could easily beat him in a dance off.

Drax and Gamora have 0 feats that might put them on Cap's level.

That's a lie, they might have 1 or 2, but they most certainly aren't taking Cap down 1-on-1.

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#19  Edited By Airgetlam

@supremegeneration: I'm not 100% with you on Drax vs Cap. Check Drax's fight with Ronan when Drax tries to fight Ronan's army single-handedly. Ronan ragdolls him without effort, and leaves him to drown for a few minutes anyway. Drax is walking around minutes later. Drax is also run over by a spaceship going extremely fast late in the movie. Not sure how Cap will top that.

If I'm not mistaken the only real fight we've seen Gamora in was against Nebula while she was distracted. Hard to tell too much from that, but Gamora is likely at least a match for Cap.

Don't wanna go too A>B>C, but Cap was able to stalemate Ultron (partially without his shield!) under really bad conditions. I think Ultron would handle Gamora fairly easily. So who knows.

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@supremegeneration: @airgetlam:

I learned some spoilers for the next guardians movie. If what I heard is true, Drax is easily above Cap and Starlord is easily the most powerful here. Both are super durable as well.

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#21  Edited By Savitar71

@superhero24 said:

@supremegeneration: @airgetlam:

I learned some spoilers for the next guardians movie. If what I heard is true, Drax is easily above Cap and Starlord is easily the most powerful here. Both are super durable as well.

The first part's true, but Peter's only that powerful under special conditions. It wouldn't be standard for something like this. He'd be regular Peter here.

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@airgetlam: Drax is definitely on par with Cap in strength now.

Gamora, however, could defeat Cap very easily. Better agility and her new strength feats put her at least at 10 tons.

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@tony_shark: ... On par?

Drax is to Cap as luke cage is to a normal human

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@soaringturkeys: As an overall, I feel that Drax is still lacking.

What Cap lacks on strength against him, he makes up with skill and agility.

And vice versa.

It isn't such a big of a gap where it seems unbelievable (Ex: Iron Man vs Cap).

However I do have to see the movie again in theaters just to make sure.

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Cap and BP are still beating Drax with standard gear, although they can't really hurt him without it. Lol at Gamora taking either.

Guardians should win both rounds due to Rocket and Groot though.

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Cap and BP are still beating Drax with standard gear, although they can't really hurt him without it. Lol at Gamora taking either.

Guardians should win both rounds due to Rocket and Groot though.

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@superhero24: I don't know why there has been any debate wether who would win, in the first guardian film when they are scanning gamora and drax it says in the bottom corner that gamora is cyber enhanced and that drax has a healing factor and impact resistant skin. They are easily above cap. Even if cap was more skilled he wouldn't be able to put them down whereas it would take them to land one blow with their weapons to leave him in hospital.

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@toffeex:

beats me. His fight with ronan should easily put him above Cap. Ronan one shot the other who is loki level in power, so being able to go a round with him and survive is impressive. James Gunn states the other is Loki level. Nebula took a bazooka to the face with almost no damage, Gamora defeats her in h2h. Drax is even more dangerous than them. People dont notice feats if they arent spelled out for them. I tend to look at the little things.

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Lol @ Drax = Cap. Drax would destroy Cap in h2h. Cap with his shield might be able to give Drax a decent fight but would still lose ultimately. Drax took multiple blows from Ronan who's probably Thor level before going down. I don't think Cap would've lasted that long.

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#30  Edited By deltahuman

The way I see it, Drax is superior in physical stats to MCU Supersoldiers. Specially in Durability. He got amped in the latest movie but he already had feats to suggest he's that powerful in the first movie itself.

First of all James Gunn stated himself that The Other is either Loki level or maybe higher than Loki since he was able to strike fear in Loki. Ronan didn't give two shits about the other and killed him in one strike and Drax fought the same Ronan in a significant H2H battle and althought he lost, he was fine physically with no cuts or bruises whatsoever. This Ronan guy could be either MCU Thor level or a little less than him in power scale. Also Drax Bitchslapped Korath who was shown to be able to jump from high enough buildings and stuff. Overall I'd rate Drax as having Normal to Elite Asgardian Soldier level physique. Drax could have similar physical stats as Loki or may be slightly more than him.

Regarding Gamora, I always imagined her as female equivalent of Bucky. She's a cybernetically enhanced assassin much like Bucky. She was definitely superior to Black Widow in the first movie Itself. But in the second movie she's apparently got 10 ton level lifting feat. That's more than even the Supersoldiers. She maybe even better than them in Physical Stats.

But all that being said, MCU Cap has fought Ultron with his shield, managed to penetrate his armour, throw him away tens of feet away and one shot Ultron Bots. He's exchanged blows with Iron Man himself and managed to hold his own. He's defeated Spidey with superior skills. He might be able to defeat Gamora.. MIGHT.. with his shield. Russo force might allow him to be on Drax level in Infinity War. That's pure speculation. And with BP's Vibranium suit, he's as capable as Cap if not more.

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@deltahuman:

nebula was also shot by drax with a bazooka. It really didnt do that much to Nebula. Gamora is similarly enhanced possibly more enhanced seeing as she is superior.

Guardians win first round in a close match. They win the bonus round in a stomp. Ronan one shots all of them.

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With that team of Avengers the Guardians take a strong majority, especially if you consider there new feats and abilities in Vol. 2. The only real threat for them is war machine in my opinion. And does Quill get his amp for Vol.2 or is he just a regular guy?

With Round 2 I can see Loki helping alot but Ronan equalizes it I think for a similar outcome to occur.

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Guardians feats haven't been all that far as the 1st movie goes. Going with the Avengers.

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Avengers.

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#37  Edited By The_Fub

Avengers lose both rounds. You didn't give them any power houses but War Machine. I guess an arguement could be made for him and Black Panther bringing the team to victory, but I don't see it.

Round 2 unless Loki tricks him and stabs him from behind (which I see as possible) he dies. Ronan already one shot someone that was stated to be above Loki (The Other)

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Avengers stomp.

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Hulk or Thor can solo

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I don't think there is a single Guardian that can get close enough to a flying War Machine to bring him dow. He has the firepower to mow then down rather quickly.

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#41  Edited By HarryPri

Nice fight, however I think Avengers take this 6 maybe 7 times out of 10.

Mainly because War Machine, Black Panther and Cap (with his shield) have amazing defense. The relatively long distance plays in Avengers advantage. Guardians have a chance to pull the win if they work as a team.

Let's analyse what the fighters can do:

For WM the only real threat is Groot. Keep the fair distance and he should tear him apart with his crazy fire power (WM's feats show that he's capable of doing that as he quickly destroyed the truck Giant Man threw at him during Civil War). Hawkeye should take cover and help by shooting arrows from distance or else he goes down. Cap's feats speak for himself – his combat skills (but not pure strenght) and acrobatics are superior to any of the present Guardians and his shield is perfect for distance and a powerful long-ranged weapon (long distance advantage again, around perfect for cap here). Black Panther with his new suit is as capable as Cap if not more. Black Widow besides her fighting skills has a whole line of weapons and gadgets so she can work as a good support (paralyse someone – so others can beat them). If Avengers focus firstly on taking down Groot they can basically chill for the rest of the battle.

Rocket...I saw him firing with some machine guns and other weapons but does he actually have any fighting abilities besides that? Groot is definitely the muscle of the Guardians, being able to pierce enemies with his rapidly-groving brunches, however people are overestimating him a lot – he's definitely not Hulk level, Groot got both of his armed ripped by Gamora in their first encounter. Quill has guts and is really good but has nothing that could seriously hurt WM or BP – he could still shortly paralyse them with his gravity mines while Groot would obliterate them. Gamora is also low-tier compared to the previously mentioned Avengers – Hawkeye and Widow (maybe Cap but I'm being very optimistic here) are the only ones she could be expected to defeat. And Drax is subpar – he was KOd by Ronan like a little bitch and taken down by Dr.Strange's coat. (okay, he's not completely irrelevant but I have no idea why people here say he's Cap level or actually above). For Guardians I suggest them to focus on taking down WM firstly, if they succeed, they have fair chance to win.

But since I like this fight, let's also go with situation they go divide and conquer strategy and fight one on one like this:

War Machine VS Groot

Hawkeye VS Rocket

Captain America VS Starlord

Black Widow VS Gamora

Black Panther VS Drax

(I think this is quite equal in the terms of choices)

War Machine gots this if he keeps his distance. Groot could give him a hard time and possibly even manage to destroy his suit if WM won't be careful but Rhodey is actually more level-headed in battle than Tony is.

Hawkeye is deffinitely more skilled in hand-to-hand combat than Rocket in the case this would be close range. Otherwise I believe his skill let him shoot an arrow through the racoon and win the battle. If Rocket wouldn't shoot him apart before Clint could do anything – not sure on this one.

Starlord has guts and likes a challenge, however Cap likes challenge too and has superior skills to Quill. Maybe Peter would be able to pull something out of the hat but I doupt Cap would let himself getting defeated here.

With the girl vs girl... people say Gamora is stronger 'cause reasons like her species is more powerful than humans, she was modified, she was trained by Thanos etc. However I would give this one to BW also – I didn't see any Gamora's feats that put her above BW's level. As I mentioned Natasha's got her toys and she's probably one of the strongest non-super humans to ever walk the realm of MCU.

And the final fight between close range specialists – both also have good defense. Drax has powerful skin, but BP now has a suit that freaking reflects damage. Drax would try to punch BP and end up hurting himself lol.

Bonus round

Adds interest but I'm too tired to do a in-depth analysis here so just few points:

If we're talking about Loki without his Chitauri scepter, he alone isn't too impressive. Ronan, which is pretty hardcore and actually felt like an OP villain, would give Avengers quite solid run for their money. But if it's Loki with scepter, Guardians are even more fucked.

Generally speaking this fight could go either way if it was for plot reason, however I'm saying that Avengers are more important so they'd probably win.

I'm looking forward for you hating me :D

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Avengers both rounds