avengers (IW) vs doomsday and zod (DCEU)

Doomsday solos

The Avengers. A number of them will probably die though.

Doomsday stomps, the Avengers only chance is Thor, Dr Strange or Hulk

Avengers die as usual to DCEU high tiers.

@DammeFavour: Doomsday can survive fighting stark, Wanda, strange, and Thor simultaneously?

Who are even the Avengers anymore? All I know is Tony, Thor, and a couple of fodder, anyone else?

@xzone: well yea. This entire team lack the damage output to even hurt him and lack the durability to survive

doomsday or zod solo, none of the avengers can hurt them or survive any of their attacks. massive speed advantage too

Zod and Doomsday, with Doomsday as MVP (they’ll see him as probably more of a threat when they catch on to him regenerating and adapting).

Doomsday kills 90% of the marvel team within the first few minutes.

@DammeFavour: Doomsday was showing pain from 30mm rounds. You think Stark can't put that much damage out? Did you watch any of the iron-man movies?

@xzone: dude, what pain? Dude got absolutely no damage from any of that then went ahead and tanked a nuke

And yea stark cannot put out as much damage as a nuke or even 30mm rounds, even war machine doesn't have that kind of ammo

Both are powerhouses

But avengers have their own share of powerhouse

And a bucket ton of versatility

Avengers 6/10

They can't put down Doomsday.

@DammeFavour: Stark can't do as much damage as 30mm rounds. That's all I needed to hear. Can't debate someone who's that biased

@xzone: dude, what is wrong with you? The 30mm rounds did no damage to him, the missiles he got hit with did no damage to him, the nuke and the Fall from orbit did no damage to him. Stark doesn't actually have bullets in his suits thats why i used war machine as an example, and bigger explosions than he's capable of did no damage to doomsday.

So yes, unless stark can produce something more powerful than a nuke which did absolutely no damage to doomsday, he's not damaging him

30mm rounds >>> Iron Man confirmed.

@tonymartial: Wanda lifted several thousand tons of metal and slammed it down to the ground. She'll be able to hold down DD or Zod long enough for Strange to open portals or lay spells on them.

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@DammeFavour: There's plenty of things wrong with me, but that has nothing to do with this debate. You said Stark can't produce the power of 30mm rounds. That bias is so unbelievable that it's not worth debating with you. Good day

Starks not doing anything to Doomsday, where the hell did this all come from.

Avengers curbstomp. The wank of live action in general has gone through the roof since Ragnorak.

Lol at Stark being a threat.

If you're counting Dr. Strange as an "Avenger" then he could easily BFR Doomsday to the Mirror Dimension or use the Time Stone on him.

The Avengers could surely win. But the odds are against them.

Doomsday alone had a clear edge against Superman (a guy who can fly from the atmosphere to the ground in just under a minute: speeds of around mach 27-28) Doomsday also has some pretty solid combat; being able to really keep Superman off of him. Doomsday also apparently absorbs energy, even a large explosion allowed Doomsday to create an explosive wave that leveled large buildings (id say about a km in diameter from him). Doomsday can also heal. After having his arm cut off it didnt even take a minute to come back, and when it came back, he had also gained larger spikes. Doomsday also survived a Nuke! which is pretty nuts. And he can fly.

HOWEVER! Doomsday is very flawed. He isnt very good at fighting multiple foes at the same time, often can only focus on a single target at a time. He also isn't very accurate with his heat vision (though it is mighty!) it took him a while to finally take batmans batwing out of the sky. Which means that if the avengers tackle Doomsday, the 'Similar' way they did Thanos. They could potentially, take him down, especially since Doomsday doesnt foe transition very well. The only issue im having here.... is that they can only beat him by kryptonite(which they dont have) and by hitting him VERY hard. To bad the Tectonic Plate holding Superman couldnt pummel him very well. It will be up to Doctor Strange to take this monster down. But hes do doubt going to go through so many heroes before that.

Now we have Zod. Who is in similar power areas as Superman. (except the strength. Superman only did his Tectonic Plate holding feat by the time of BvS. Zod is MoS Sups area)

At MoS time, Superman was strong enough to move a Massive boat through Ice (25'000 ton range). Was fast enough to break the sound barrier(combat included). And can get back up from hits that also break sound. (seeing at to how these beings all hit each other while flying. That's roughly 40 tons of force per hit. All of which are pretty much tanked.

Zod isnt nearly as much of a threat as Doomsday. But he can surely do some damage.

Zod however, is smart! Doomsday being the big gun, while likely be Strange's first target. Zod being as smart are rusthless as he is, would surely take down Strange, which means that the rest of the remaining Avengers must battle Zod.

Though thats not to much of an issue. If Mantis is around still, she can potentially mind hold him. Vision MIGHT be able to do some sort of faze attack (if Vision ACTUALLY DOES SOMETHING FOR ONCE! the guy doesnt use his power nearly as well as he could be using it; which im holding against him, because its consistent) Scarlet Witch MIGHT also be able to do something. Seeing that she was able to push back Thanos, and mess up his tens of tons wheel weapons, she very likely could damage, and even beat Zod (especially so if Zod were to take down Vision) Its also possible that Zod might find a random interest in the Mind Stone. Grabbing it might also be the end of Zod, since stones can only be wielded by powerful enough foes (though Zod MIGHT be able to..... but this is a pretty big if as it is).

And if all that fails Thor could likely take down Zod. Thor will likely have a speed issue here, but with so many other members, Thor will likely be able to find an opening.

A big MAYBE is is Doomsday and Zod are weak to Magic!

They are kryptonian. However the movies still have yet to show if Magic hurts the cinematic version. We also dont know 100% if the lightning thor uses is Magical. While Thor does use a magical weapon, it is only there to help him use his powers, rather than casting the lightning itself.

If Thor does have magical lightning, and DCU Kryptonians arnt resistant to magic, than this Surely goes to the Avengers.

There are SO MANY factors in the fight. And it overall comes down to who ends up fighting which characters at which point in the battle.

Though my guess would be...

Zod and Doomsday both kicking 1/10

Zod only 2/10

Doomsday only 1/10

Avengers 6/10

Avengers if magic effectiveness is in play 9.5/10

and vision and hulk

just because dooms day can shoot lasers doesnt mean he is better than hulk

you got to be as strong as hulk and very skilled at fighting or you will just make him more angier .. dooms day is a mindless monster .. he doesnt know how to box weave and jab like MCU thanos.. i am not saying base thanos can beat dooms day but you cant use ABC logic .. dooms day doesnt have any fighting skill he is basically a lion with rabies

Lol what is this? The Avengers kill them, Thor can already beat them individually

Doomsday and Zod would rip them apart.

What kind of a mismatch is this. Except BFR by Strange, Nobody can even touch or hurt DCEU Team. Doomsday can solo. Zod can potentially solo if he abuses his speed to its full extent.

Doomsday kills 60 percent of the team with AoE lighting, 20 percent with heat vision and the remaining 20 by beating them into jelly. Zod could kill 90 percent of them with heat vision as well and the remaining by hypersonic bullrushing and punching. Just watch the Superman vs Zod fight in MOS folks. Zod is at some another level and Doomsday is several tiers above him.

Wait did someone claim 30mm rounds have more damage output than Ironman???

I need to avoid Dceu battles

@thanosii:

You're surprised by the nonsense the DCEU fans spew? How long have you been around for again?

Doomsday and Zod win.

hahahahaha. Mismatch Doomsday can solo

After looking at that speed feat of Zod posted by some people in other threads, I can't imagine him losing to anyone of the Avengers, he can just blitz them.

Besides, they cannot at all put Doomsday down.

Both solos

Poor Spiderman. :( he never catches a break. Even on the Vine.

Thor solos both with Stormbreaker...Kryptonians don't have the feats to survive it yet some ignore this point again and again.

Which feat is that?

@jsdoctor: He grabs Superman and flies him in space in like 2 seconds.

It's hard to say Zod solos at this point cuz Thor has had bit of an upgrade. Doomsday definitely solos though.

DCEU Team Godstomps

Dc wins lol at bullets hurting doomsday

I've always considered that to be an outlier as it would put his speed at about Mach 146, which is way above how he's portrayed in the rest of the film. No-one in the entire DCEU comes close to that speed. IMO it's much more likely that they just cut from him grabbing Superman to them being in space without showing the full flight. In one shot Zod grabs him and pulls him upwards, but they are still within blue/grey sky, and then it instantly cuts to them already being in space and grappling with each other. There's definitely a major part of their flight that's been cut out, so I don't personally regard that feat as legitimate.

Doomsday solos if they dont bfr him.

Doomsday soloes

Maybe thats because Stormbreaker doesn't have the feats to put it's energy output close to that of a nuke, that the weakness to magic in Kryptonians isn't established in the DCEU, and because according to Kevin Feige who runs the MCU... magic doesn't exist.

Doomsday goes to the mirror dimension and Zod gets stomped by Thor.