Avengers (Earth's mightiest heroes) vs JLA (Animated)

One giant lightning attack would wreck them all. And he's got AOE lightning attacks to help with that. He's physically stronger than all of the JLA members, strikes hilariously harder than all of them combined, has durability showings which trumps any of the JLA's damage output.

Thor tanked this;

without a scratch, hell, in the next shot, Thor was shown on top of Vision, like he didn't just get drop kicked from heaven.

Intangibility will not be a problem seeing how stupid MMH utilizes his powers during combat, the dude gets tagged 9/10 times whenever he's involved in a fight.

Picking up Mjolnir won't work here, and even if it does, nothing suggests they would be able to wield it better than Thor himself. Oh, and there's Hulk.

@drfate: MMH used offensive tp like once in the show

@rudebomberboy01: your assuming thor is given time to charge such an attack which he won't have

so you're relying entirely on CIS on JL's behalf for the avengers to win

they don't have to wield the hammer like thor, just hold it and play keep away from thor

now what? hulk smashes them all

@masterkungfu:

your assuming thor is given time to charge such an attack which he won't have

Ant-Man, Iron Man, Captain America, Black Panther, and Wasp(yes, Wasp) are perfectly capable of keep the JLA team at bay, giving Thor enough time to charge up the attack(which only takes a couple of seconds). That is of course if Thor wants to end the fight with one giant lightning shot, but I doubt that. He'd probably just go in and wreck them all.

so you're relying entirely on CIS on JL's behalf for the avengers to win

I don't even have to rely on CIS, Thor's feats are unmatchable by any of the JLA member. And it's not CIS when MMH gets tagged in battle 9/10 times.

they don't have to wield the hammer like thor, just hold it and play keep away from thor

Keeping the hammer away from Thor doesn't negate his powers, he'd still have his super strength and durability, just as he had when BRB had his hammer.

now what? hulk smashes them all

Not my point, I'm saying keeping the hammer away from Thor doesn't stop Hulk from destroying them all, plus they've got Miss Marvel to worry about. Miss Marvel, a character who is just as strong as the Hulk.

@rudebomberboy01:

Didn't Thor also survive in space with no suit at a relatively close distance to the sun as well? I mean all the radiation alone would be fatal, not to mention the heat.

I think the Avengers take this, the JL have no answer for Thor or the Hulk.

I'm just going to leave this here;

How about Hulk stopping an entire city from sinking;

Yes, Avengers Assemble is a continuation of EMH.

Heat shouldn't be a problem for Thor, considering the fact that the guy bathes in lightning :D

And yes, the JL are outmatched here.

AEMH

Captain America, Wasp, Hawkeye and Black Panther are non-factors...

Iron Man won't be much help compared to the greater beings of the JL.

Thor, Hulk and Giant Man could provide some degree of help, but would eventually would be overpowered.

JL wins, once again...

@capable said:

Captain America, Wasp, Hawkeye and Black Panther are non-factors...

Captain America broke metal restrains in the Kree episode. His shield can provide protection from Hawkgirl's mace. He also outclasses her in skill and agility. He could easily take her.

Wasp went giant in the Ultron episode. Giganta has been shown to backhand Superman and take out Wonder Woman and Hawkgirl at the same time. I would not call Wasp a non-factor.

Hawkeye was pretty good too. He can occupy Batman.

Black Panther has slain Frost Giants, was handling four avengers at the same time, and his energy daggers showed to be extremely powerful. They also caused a fire effect, which would be lethal to Martian Manhunter.

Iron Man won't be much help compared to the greater beings of the JL.

Which greater beings? Flash will get one-shotted if tagged. Any of Iron Man's fire weapons will take out Martian Manhunter. Superman was hurt by guns, Iron Man's uni-beam can arguably K.O. him. Iron Man lifted cars easily, he would definitely put up quite a fight.

Thor, Hulk and Giant Man could provide some degree of help, but would eventually would be overpowered.

Thor's blast which he used against Graviton could take out the entire league. He would crush any member of the league separately. He would provide much more than just some degree of help.

Hulk was a beast in the show. He could easily replace Chaos Grundy. He fought Thor at even grounds. As the battle takes place in New York City, he could throw cars that would explode into fire, which is lethal to MM.

Giant Man has lifted and threw a cargo ship at Garviton. I do not believe anyone in the JL has shown such strength. As already mentioned, Giganta swatted Superman, and even took down WW and Hawkgirl at the same time. Ant Man can do even better.

JL wins, once again...

Debatable. Let's take a look at the Justice League.

1. Superman - Though known as the most powerful hero of the planet, the Man of Steel has not lived up to his name. Throughout the show, the "bullet proof" hero was beaten up by robots, K.O.ed by electric shocks, and worst of all: hurt by bullets. He has never shown to be able to speed blitz anyone, much less fly anyone into suns. He has shown extreme weakness to magic on several occasions, including his fight with Captain Marvel, in which Billy's lightning hurt Superman badly. It is quite clear that Thor's blast that he used against Graviton completely dwarfs Billy's "Shazam."
2. Flash - The fastest man alive is not anyone to mess with in the comics, but in the show, he was messed up. Sure, he had a few good feats like running to the sun and running around the world in the luthor/brainiac episode, but most of the time, he is running into fists, getting caught off guard, and tripping on rocks. He can get one-shotted by any Avenger, and was rarely shown to be able to cause serious physical damage.
3. Martian Manhunter - Famous for his ability to "mind rape," the Martian Manhunter has not shown it once in the show. The only time he fulfilled such a feat, he was badly hurt, he took minutes, and his victim was already K.O.ed. MM is also known for his intangibility, which was proven useless nearly as often as Flash flopped. Electricity has shown to be especially fatal to his intangibility, which Thor, Iron Man, and even Hawkeye are in possession of. Throughout the series, he demonstrated his inability to keep his tranformed appearance, locate evil witches/bald geniuses, and read minds. Worst of all, he can be taken out by a someone lighting a match. In the heat of battle, fire (MM's greatest weakness) is quite common.
4. Hawkgirl - Hawkgirl simply has not shown anything impressive in the series. She did not seem too durable, strong, or fast. It is probable that she can get taken out by some explosive arrows or a well thrown shield.
5. Green Lantern - Unlike his teammates, Green Lantern was actually impressive in the show. There were several occasions when his shields were broken/overpowered, such as his fight with Volcana, but he has mostly remained consistent. Despite this, I still see him falling to Thor's blast, Hulk's rampage, or perhaps Iron Man's uni-beam. His ring can also run out of energy, meaning that he will lose if the battle goes on for a long time.
6. Wonder Woman - Wonder woman was also very impressive in the series. She has proven to be very strong, fast, and extremely skilled in combat. She even beat Superman in "Paradise Lost." However, Wonder Woman seemed to lack durability. Mostly, she blocks the oncoming attacks with her bracelets, but in the rare circumstances that she could not, she got taken out pretty easily. For instance, in her fight against Amazo, the android used Green Lantern's ring on her. She blocked each blast with her bracelets, but when Amazo released more smaller in size blasts, she got hit by one of them, and was K.O.ed for the next part of the fight.
7. Batman - Though very smart and skilled, Bruce is only human. His intellect would not be of much use in this fight, as there is no prep time, and he would get taken out very quickly.

Here are some possible scenarios the fight could go:

1. Thor easily and quickly takes out Superman due to Supes' weakness to magic and Thor's insane power. Hulk takes down Martian Manhunter due to Hulk's resistance to telepathy and MM's weakness to fire, which can be caused by cars thrown by Hulk exploding. Giant Man beats Wonder Woman as he is superior to Giganta, and at the very least he can stalemate her. Iron Man and Giant Wasp hold off Green Lantern. Captain America holds off Hawkgirl, and Hawkeye holds off Batman. Flash beats up Black Panther, who still has a decent chance to win. Then, Thor, Hulk, and possibly Giant Man help their teammates, one-shot Flash, and the Avengers win.

2. Thor easily takes out Green Lantern due to being OP. Giant Man slaps around Superman (like Giganta did). Hulk will take out Wonder Woman, due to being stronger and far more durable. She may be able to block/dodge some of his punches, but she does not have any defense against a thunderclap. Martian Manhunter will beat Iron Man eventually. Black Panther would beat Batman, since he is far stronger, more durable, faster, more agile, just as skilled, and just as smart. Captain America and Hawkeye are very likely to beat Flash with some neat arrow/shield trick. Wasp would hold off Hawkgirl, since I can't see Hawkgirl tagging Wasp with her mace. Wasp can also turn giant and one-shot. Then, Thor, Hulk, Giant Man, Black Panther, Captain America, Hawkeye, and Wasp would pound down Martian Manhunter and maybe Flash. Avengers win here too.

3. Thor takes out Wonder Woman due to being much stronger and more durable. Hulk takes out Flash since Flash cannot do anything to hurt Hulk, and Hulk can use a thunderclap. Superman beats down Iron Man. Giant Man stalemates Green Lantern. Captain America beats Batman, due to being superior in strength, speed, and durability. Black Panther protects Hawkeye while he shoots down Hawkgirl. Martian Mahunter easily beats Wasp. Then, Thor, Hulk, Giant Man, Captain America, Black Panther, and Hawkeye fight Superman, Green Lantern, and Martian Manhunter. Thor takes out Superman. Hulk takes out or stalemates Martian Manhunter. Giant Man, Captain America, Black Panther, and Hawkeye take out Green Lantern. Then they all gang up on Martian Manhunter, and avengers win once again.

4. Thor solos.

The last one is the most likely.

Please name some scenarios in which the Justice League wins.

@capable:

The JL would indeed crush the avengers in the comics, but they seemed awfully weak in the cartoon. Please explain how the JL will prevail?

@bladeoffury: Superman JLU was stated to be top speed of Mach 8

@capable:

Alright. Here we go. Thor and Martian Manhunter would go at it. They would eventually stalemate, taking them both out of the equation.

Thor and MM would not stalemate, Thor would win, and easily. In "Injustice for All" Part 2, at 16:05 to 16:15, MM's intangible form is proven useless against Humanite's electric rod. As Thor's lightning is electric, MM's intangibility can be disregarded. Martian Manhunter has not shown feats of mind rape in the show either. With just his physical power, MM would get crushed by Thor.

Hulk and Giant Man would battle Superman and Wonder Woman. Superman defeats Giant Man sooner or later than assists Diana with The Hulk. They both claim victory and move on to stomp Iron Man.

I doubt Superman would defeat Giant Man. In most of their encounters, he got destroyed by Giganta. At 0:55, Giganta takes out WW and Hawgirl at the same time. At 1:00, she beats down WW again. At 1:05, she one-shots (or one-claps) Superman himself. From 1:16 to 1:32, she completely trashes Supes around.

And Giant Man is much more powerful than Giganta. He is arguably physically stronger than Superman. Ant man lifted and then threw a cargo ship in the fight with Graviton. Superman has never shown such strength.

Ant Man even kicked around Abomination, Hulk's equal:

At the very least Ant Man would hold off Superman until Hulk finishes Wonder Woman. And then they can take the Man of Steel down.

Meanwhile, that leaves Hawkeye, Captain America, Black Panther and the Wasp fighting against GL, Flash, Hawkgirl and Batman. Batman beats Hawkeye with some effort. GL effortlessly claims victory over the Wasp. Flash defeats Captain America with ease. And Hawkgirl and Black Panther go toe to toe in a close fight. Then Superman and Diana come and stomp the last Avenger before the others can help.

You got the first part right except for the fact that Iron Man will be there too. Then, Bruce will beat Clint in a good fight. Flash beats up Captain America (though I see Wally tripping on a rock). Hawkgirl will stalemate BP, as you said. However, Green Lantern will be held off by the combined efforts of Iron Man and Wasp.

Then: Thor, Hulk, Giant Man, Iron Man, Black Panther, and Wasp will fight Green Lantern, Flash, Hawkgirl, and Batman.

Thor will take out Green Lantern. Hulk will take out Flash. Iron Man and Wasp will beat Hawkgirl. Black Panther will beat Batman.

Avengers win this.

@capable:

Captain America may take Hawkgirl, but not easily.

I agree, I meant that Cap can easily hold off Shayera, not beat her.

Wasp went Giant once, and I doubt she would have the chance to do so before Superman swatted her out of the air.

I agree with this too, I was simply implying that Wasp is not a non-factor.

Batman is far more intelligent and his combat skills rival Black Panther's...

Yes, Batman is far more intelligent than Hawkeye. But how will intelligence help in a battle of skill? There is no prep. I agree that Batman will beat Hawkeye eventually, but not easily.

What fire effect?

The fire effect caused by BP's energy daggers. You can find it from 16:12 to 16:16 in "Widow's Sting."

Flash is much to fast to be tagged. He could run up a building, jump and EMP punch Tony millions of times before he could blink.

Too fast to be tagged? Really? He wasn't too fast for Grodd, who knocked him out at 17:44 of the "Brave and the Bold" Part 1. Or for Green Lantern who had time to say "I hate to do this" before one-shotting Flash at 19:20 of that same episode. Green Lantern did not even enhance his punch with his ring. If Flash couldn't run up to a member of the marine-corp before he finishes a sentence, how will he run up a building and punch Tony millions of times before he could blink? Plus, when has Flash ever demonstrated such abilities in the show? Plus, Flash would hurt his hand upon the first punch.

Martian Manhunter is as powerful as Superman physically,

Proof?

and is able to shape-shift, mind rape,

MM could not mind rape in the show.

shoot lasers and turn intangible.

When has MM shot lasers?

His intangibility is useless against electricity.

Iron Man is getting stomped.

I never said Iron Man could beat MM.

A full uni-beam would daze Clark at best.

Clark was hurt by guns, a uni-beam > guns. Tony's beam destroyed those huge Hydra octopus robots.

I know Thor is very powerful. Believe me, he is one of my favorite superheroes, but he simply cannot solo the league, Superman or Wonder Woman would be a handful, MM would stalemate him.

In that case, you believe that any member of the league can tank Thor's godblast, the one that K.O.ed Graviton?

Doubt it.

Hulk's "car throwing" is not effective when MM turns intangible.

However, when those cars explode, they cause fire. MM is weak to fire, and his intangibility does not help against it.

Ant-Man lacks combat skills to hang with Superman, WW or MM, even as a giant.

So does Giganta, and yet she fared quite well against those three, as shown in the video provided.

Ant Man > Giganta.

Thor beats Clark, but not easily.

Thor's magic gives him the easy win.

Hulk was moderately resistant to telepathy, MM can throw far more than that at Bruce,

MM could not even mind rape at all in the show.

and even if that fails, Martian Manhunter is a physical equal to Superman,

Proof?

along with Intangibility and Shape-shifting. He should be more than enough to defeat Hulk. Then he and Thor would stalemate.

Unlikely. His intangibility can be beat by fire, which is very common in battle, especially one that takes place in NYC. Thor would defeat MM easily, as explained earlier.

"Giant Man beats Wonder Woman." ROFL! No way...Wonder Woman is stronger,

Can WW bench and throw a cargo ship? She had trouble stopping a missile.

faster, more durable and has far superior combat skills.

And yet, her superior speed and combat skills did not help much against Giganta. WW has not shown good durability either.

Black Panther does not have a decent chance to win. He falls within seconds, no reaction time can change that.

If a regular guy can react and one-shot Flash, a trained and physically enhances King of Wakanda can as well. I do think Flash should dominate, but BP still has a chance, considering Flash was flopping quite a lot in the show.

Then Flash takes care of Captain America and Hawkeye.

Which is also debatable, but very possible.

Then he, Hawkgirl and Batman move on to crush Iron Man.

Who has no reason to fight them alone, he has Thor, Hulk, and Giant Man to back him up.

Even if Thor, Hulk and Giant Man lived through the JL onslaught, Flash couldn't be touched.

Feats speak otherwise.

This is not a stomp, but JL wins handily.

Very unlikely.

JLA dies horribly.

EMH for the win!

Damn, clearly I need to rewatch EMH.

Easy win for the JLA.

So the consensus is the JL wins, right?

Good, that settles that.

JLA wins...

The "big" factor on Avengers is Thor, and the chance for Avengers to beat JLA's personil is only Batman and Hawkgirl

this thor aint a slugger. he uses his powers really well. and he is a beast.

This thor is above supes IMO. saying that the avengers can only beat batman and hawkgirl? dont think so

@sportjames23:

Not exactly, most people think JL wins because they are far stronger than the Avengers in the comics. For this cartoon however, EMH are very likely to take the win.

EMH for the win, as BladeOfFury already stated before. They are too much for the JLA/JLU team. There is nothing they can do to Thor or Hulk or even Giant-Man. A cargo ship can weigh 200k tons that is much more than anything we have seen from Superman in the show. And then you have Thor who stopped a part of New York from smashing down into the ocean and break instead he caught it and let it sink fairly slowly down so it didn't split or whatever.

Thor and Hulk and Ant-Man/Giant Man is too much for the JL. I say Thor solo with mid difficulty. Hulk can't solo but cna take out the majority before going down. BP and IM has shown to be as smart as Bat's has, so Bat is really a non-factor here.

Thor is the biggest threat. He solo's while the rest of the Avengers just eating pop-corn while watch Thor beat the s**t out of JL.

Thor vs Vision just wanted to put it up because it is awesome and shows some of Thors durability (not english but still awesome)(Vision go to 500 ton and run straight on Thor without hurting him).

Avengers vs Graviton:

Going with avengers for basically all the reasons everyone else used. Everyone is overrating the Justice League. However I only looked at a few pages of the arguments and maybe someone can make a more compelling argument.

Marvel fans will say EMH and D.C. Fans will says JLA truth is JLA takes this and the fact is JL has much higher feats than EMH whose feats were very inconsistent throughout the show.

What higher feats does the Justice League have exactly?

Jla wreck marvel team easy peasy

EMH Avengers destroy

@larcadedragneel:

A near light speed speedster

A telepath

A guy with shields who could take a planetary blast

@doom_phd:

A near light speed speedster

Flash has never ran anywhere close to light speed.

A telepath

Who can read people's minds but barely ever uses offensive TP.

A guy with shields who could take a planetary blast

When did John ever do that?

@rudebomberboy01:

Yes, Avengers Assemble is a continuation of EMH.

Nope. If it was, then how did the Avengers not recognize Kang the Conqeror, who they fought twice in EMH and then encountered in Assemble:

Gallery

Or Winter Soldier, who became a hero at the end of EMH and helped stop Galactus, but all has been forgetten in Assemble and he fought Cap like EMH never happened:

Gallery

Or Black Panther, who was their own teammate in EMH, but then turned into some jerk wanting to steal Cap's shield who they didn't know in Assemble:

Gallery

Their power levels also differed greatly. For instance, Thor could levitate without his hammer in EMH, but could not in Assemble.

Assemble is parallel to Ultimate Spiderman, Hulk Agents of Smash, and some other shows no one likes.

EMH has better feats

Justice League. EMH are wanked

The Avengers

Avengers

Avengers in a stomp.