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#1 Edited by StormShadow_X (13976 posts) - - Show Bio
  • Young Zuko in his Prime ( Whenever that was during the continuation in the comics)
  • Ghazan
  • Both willing to Kill
  • Basic Knowledge
  • Standard Gear

R1 - Normal Fight

R2 - Sozins Comet Amped Zuko

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#2 Edited by GothamCiti (2768 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Ghazan. Simply more versatile with a environmental advantage.

R2: Feeling Zuko cause he has a lot of raw power.

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#3 Posted by StormShadow_X (13976 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Ghazan. Simply more versatile with a environmental advantage.

R2: Feeling Zuko cause he has more raw power.

What would be a more "common" ground place to have them fight?

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#4 Posted by Amendment50 (13108 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghazan

Zuko

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#7 Posted by GothamCiti (2768 posts) - - Show Bio

Still siding with Ghazan in Round 1 for his versatility as well as skill.

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#8 Posted by Arcus1 (25514 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Zuko stomps round 2

R1 could go either way, maybe Ghazan in a close one

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#9 Posted by LlehDevil (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Ghazan. Simply more versatile with a environmental advantage.

R2: Feeling Zuko cause he has a lot of raw power.

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#10 Edited by LlehDevil (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

@arcus1: "Ghazan in a close one"... ;D Oh youuuu.....

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#11 Posted by deactivated-597fe3e7af56f (2560 posts) - - Show Bio

@arcus1 said:

Well Zuko stomps round 2

R1 could go either way, maybe Ghazan in a close one

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#12 Posted by DeathHero61 (16721 posts) - - Show Bio

@arcus1 said:

Well Zuko stomps round 2

R1 could go either way, maybe Ghazan in a close one

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#13 Posted by ANTHP2000 (12074 posts) - - Show Bio

@arcus1 said:

Well Zuko stomps round 2

R1 could go either way, maybe Ghazan in a close one

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#14 Posted by Huskii (454 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm just gonna say it, Zuko curbstomps both without even trying.

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#15 Posted by katrurius17 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@stormshadow_x: (He don't reached his prime yet, but regardless:

R1 : 50/50, could go either way.

R2 : Zuko obviously stomps, way too much power.

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#16 Edited by ANTHP2000 (12074 posts) - - Show Bio

bump Round 1 is pretty close.

Zuko's advantages

  • Speed
  • CQC
  • Raw Power

Ghazan's Advantages

  • Versatality
  • Agility

Zuko's combo seems much more promising and deadly, however Ghazan's mobility combined with environmental attacks could turn the tides.

I'm now intriguted to give it to Zuko, esspecially if he has his swords, but Ghazan could definetely win and was my first choice after all.

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#17 Posted by vengefulshot (2026 posts) - - Show Bio

@mial42 said:
@arcus1 said:

Well Zuko stomps round 2

R1 could go either way, maybe Ghazan in a close one

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#18 Posted by RaimundoPedrosa (587 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Ghazan murders Zuko without it being close. In raw power, Ghazan wins by a landslide. Anyone who says otherwise is not thinking straight. Ghazan took down a giant wall in Ba Sing Se with minimal effort. Something that comet-enhanced Iroh and The Drill could not even do.

Old or not, Ghazan has been in prison and disconnected from his element for 13 years, so a well-nourished Ghazan would murder Zuko in his prime. The nighttime affected both of them, since Ghazan couldn't see as well. He was also standing barefoot on ice, not well-connected to the earth, and severely limited on his earth. Don't even get me started on his lack of lava. Even with his swords in his prime, Zuko would get dropped if the fight took place in the middle of an earthen city filled with lots of land to which Ghazan was connected. No lava needed.

Round 2: Close fight, since Zuko is so enhanced and can fly even without Sozin's Comet. Use Zuko from "North and South" and give him his swords. And then set the fight in Ba Sing Se or some other aera filled with an abundant amount of earth. The heat from Zuko's fire and swords enhanced by Sozin's Comet would make it easier for Ghazan to liquefy his earth into lava, and then Ghazan would melt his swords and knock him around. In agility, Ghazan still has Zuko beaten even in his prime, and in raw power, Ghazan wins hands down. the way that he took down the giant wall and Air Temple is well beyond anything that comet-enhanced Iroh, let alone Zuko, did.

Still, Zuko would be better than Ghazan during Sozin's Comet in speed, equal in agility, and close in raw power, but still behind Ghazan there.

Overall, Ghazan stomps Round 1 and Round 2 could go either way, 50/50, maybe 55/45 in Ghazan's favor.

If we were using kemurikage Azula with Sozin's Comet against Ghazan, then it'd be a different story, since she's at least as agile as him and has instant lightning and flight. Zuko from "North and South" during Sozin's Comet, however, is at best tied with Ghazan. Still giving Round 2 to Ghazan 55/45.

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#19 Posted by ANTHP2000 (12074 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah going with Zuko R1.

R2, he one shots our badass lavabender.

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#21 Posted by GothamCiti (2768 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000 said:

@gothamciti: Hey what's the first pic you posted here?

I'm pretty sure the first pic was of a Earth Kingdom village from the episode "Imprisoned".

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#22 Posted by ANTHP2000 (12074 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000 said:

@gothamciti: Hey what's the first pic you posted here?

I'm pretty sure the first pic was of a Earth Kingdom village from the episode "Imprisoned".

It's so cool.

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#23 Edited by GothamCiti (2768 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000:

I agree. The artwork in Avatar is generally top notch.

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#24 Posted by Tektonic (753 posts) - - Show Bio

Ghazan takes Round 1 without too much trouble.

Round 2 Zuko.

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#25 Posted by juiceboks (22677 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how Ghazan can win either round tbh. Zuko actually has him beat when it comes to combat applicable damage output. Ghazan's lavabending is more dangerous and destructive but that doesn't make him more powerful. Ghazan's demonstrably slower and less agile, and his attacks aren't any better. They've been avoided by every character he fought besides old Zuko, even Bumi was able to maneuver his way around his attacks to get within biting distance. Ghazan's also shown a lack of adequate defensive options to block attacks as powerful as Zuko's.

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#26 Posted by ANTHP2000 (12074 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: Ghazan's definitely more agile. Surprisingly enough.

Agreed with the rest.

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#27 Posted by juiceboks (22677 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: What feats of agility come to mind? Even S1 Zuko could match Aang at times with trading attacks like in the perfume episode.

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#28 Posted by ANTHP2000 (12074 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: What feats of agility come to mind? Even S1 Zuko could match Aang at times with trading attacks like in the perfume episode.

Zuko matching Aang was speed (which I agree, he's faster than Ghazan, excluding raw travel speed). But as far as agility (acrobatic abilities) goes, Ghazan's casually performed high end somersaults and backflips while maintaining offence.

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Zuko's pretty agile in his own right, but this is one of the few categories Ghazan has an advantage in (as unimportant as it might be for the most part).