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#1 Edited by FullMetalEmprah (2365 posts) - - Show Bio
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Sozin's Comet arrives as scheduled, but there is a last minute change of plans. Ozai gives Azula the honor of burning the Earth Kingdom to ash in his stead. Aang goes to stop her instead of facing the Firelord in order to lessen the amount of damage caused by the Fire Nation while the Comet empowers them.

Round 1: Aang is EoS, but not in Avatar State(basically how he started the fight with Ozai). Azula is EoS and both are amped by Sozin's Comet. Azula's sanity will not be slipping in this scenario.

Round 2: Aang has access to the Avatar State, Azula has access to the Comet Amp once again.

Bonus Round: No Comet Amp or Avatar State, both are EoS.

Who wins? I personally have always wondered this since Aang really never got the chance to fight her again after the whole fiasco in Ba Sing Se.

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#2 Posted by geekryan (2355 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Aang 6/10

R2: Aang 10/10

R3: Azula 6/10

Aang also benefits from the Comet amp, which makes things a bit closer in Round 1.

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#3 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: Azula pretty comfortably.

R2: Aang stomps if he goes into the AS-state.

Bonus: Depends on how serious Aang is, but Kemurikage Azula would make more sense for that round.

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#4 Posted by ANTHP2000 (19368 posts) - - Show Bio

Aang

Azula

Aang

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#5 Edited by Alsimmons77 (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula wins the first round handily, Aang was badly losing against Ozai outside of the redirection. But the other two wins Aang except he jobs too much in the last one.

@geekryan said:

R1: Aang 6/10

R2: Aang 10/10

R3: Azula 6/10

Aang also benefits from the Comet amp, which makes things a bit closer in Round 1.

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Aang

Azula

Aang

How should Aang win the first round but lose the second anthp2000?

How should Aang win the first round but lose the last geekryan?

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#6 Posted by Crimson-Feather (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula

Aang

50/50

i think.

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#7 Posted by Crimson-Feather (20 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8 Posted by Morpheus_ (33197 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula should win, but he'd hold his own, given how well he performed defensively against Father of the Year.

Aang dominates, it's not even debatable. He literally one-shoots if he wants.

The most balanced of the three. Aang relied too heavily in Earthbending during their Ba Sing Se fight, but he grew far more adept by the conclusion of the series - I believe he'd edge her out but it would be a decent contest.

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#9 Posted by thebuckaronatr (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula should win, but he'd hold his own, given how well he performed defensively against Father of the Year.

Aang dominates, it's not even debatable. He literally one-shoots if he wants.

The most balanced of the three. Aang relied too heavily in Earthbending during their Ba Sing Se fight, but he grew far more adept by the conclusion of the series - I believe he'd edge her out but it would be a decent contest.

I second that.

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#10 Posted by Marishtar (1602 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by ourmanuel (1752 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula

Aang

Aang

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#12 Posted by ANTHP2000 (19368 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know why I said she wins 2, that's inpossible. More like;

Azula

Aang

Aang

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#13 Posted by Helloman (20900 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula wins round one but loses the other rounds.

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#14 Posted by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by Wrathofthebrad (556 posts) - - Show Bio
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#16 Posted by incursion2 (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd back Aang all rounds tbh

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#17 Posted by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd back Aang all rounds tbh

No way in hell wins Aang R1.

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#18 Posted by gunchar16 (1477 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by Amonfire1776 (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

Aang wins every round...Azula is still insane at this point.

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#20 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@amonfire1776: I removed that in the OP, so Azula is still sane in this scenario.

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#21 Posted by geekryan (2355 posts) - - Show Bio

@alsimmons77: I reread the OP and I change my mind.

R1: Azula

R2: Aang

R3: Aang but in a very close fight

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#22 Posted by HitTheAssasin (6735 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Aang, but it's quite close.

Round 2: Aang stomps.

Round 3: Aang.

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#23 Posted by MorbusGrav (781 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Azula easily.
  2. Aang easily.
  3. Close fight either way.
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#24 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin said:

Round 1: Aang, but it's quite close.

Honestly, how the hell? Azula is magnitudes better in firebending, Aang in character, Azula sane and Ozai almost mopped the floor with Aang until Aang redirected his lightning(which is nigh useless against sane Azula).

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#25 Edited by HitTheAssasin (6735 posts) - - Show Bio

@itachus17: Aang could have beaten Ozai if he hadn't been so merciful, who, IIRC, was confirmed to be the strongest firebender(and should logically be so anyway) and was holding his own even without lightning re-direction. Aang when going all-out is too much for Azula to handle, assuming he doesn't job.

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#26 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin:

Aang could have beaten Ozai if he hadn't been so merciful

Lightning redirection is nigh useless against sane EoS Azula(still better than again Kemurikage Azula though) and Ozai almost mopped the floor with Aang until that point.

who, IIRC, was confirmed to be the strongest firebender(and should logically be so anyway)

He was(confirmed in the Avatar Extras), but Azula showed in quite a few regards better feats(even already before the comics) than him to be honest.

and was holding his own even without lightning re-direction.

No he rly wasn't, Aang was desperately trying to survive while Ozai was pretty much just berserking through all his tries except the lightning redirection.

Aang when going all-out is too much for Azula to handle, assuming he doesn't job.

Why? Azula was in the finale much weaker than usually(as a fighter, also confirmed in the Avatar Extras), non-AS Aang should be by no means too much for her massively amped usual self.

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#27 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (630 posts) - - Show Bio

Aang all rounds.

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#28 Posted by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

Aang all rounds.

Ok i just repeat myself, how the freaking hell should Aang win R1?

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#29 Posted by TheWatcherKing (17701 posts) - - Show Bio
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#30 Posted by Alsimmons77 (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

@geekryan said:

@alsimmons77: I reread the OP and I change my mind.

R1: Azula

R2: Aang

R3: Aang but in a very close fight

Yeah that is what i was thinking, Aang winning the first round is a weird idea especially if you think he could lose the last.

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#31 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

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@worldofruin6 said:

Aang all rounds.

Sigh, were some people maybe just sleeping during the finale? Aang got his ass kicked by Ozai until the lightning redirection happened(that is still nigh useless against sane EoS Azula), Azula is magnitudes better in firebending than Aang and kicked his ass in each encounter of B2(until the plot kicked in and he got help). Aang didn't improve to such an absolutely insane degree(especially not with his newest element firebending) that he could make up for that + the massive comet-amp(that affects him too, but is obviously much more in her favour).

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#32 Posted by incursion2 (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@itachus17: Aang held his own against Ozai and could have ended the fight had he not been merciful. That's enough for him to beat Azula.

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#33 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

@incursion2:

Aang held his own against Ozai

Did you just watch a different finale? Aang absolutely not held his own.

and could have ended the fight had he not been merciful

Ok i slowly get a headache now to be perfectly honest, it was a freaking lightning redirection(that simply wouldn't happen for the vast majority of time with sane EoS Azula period).

That's enough for him to beat Azula.

No, getting his ass kicked by Ozai and screwing it up(why should he even suddenly be less merciful) with a technique that is nigh useless against the version of Azula in this thread is absolutely not enough to beat Azula.

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#34 Posted by Arcus1 (26522 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: 50/50. Based on his fight with Ozai, we know that Aang's certainly capable of fending off Azula (Ozai's canonically more powerful than Azula), but I'm not sure if he could consistently beat her. Logically, I feel like he should be able to, but depends on how he fights. EoS Aang is definitely a better fighter than other times he fought Azula, and it shows in the finale (besides the addition of firebending, his earthbending's clearly improved, and he's better at incorporating all the elements), but I'm not sure how it would go down against Azula's raw offensive power

R2: Obviously Aang

R3: Aang should win this, if he's actually willing to fight

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#35 Posted by katrurius17 (1042 posts) - - Show Bio

  1. Azula easily.
  2. Aang easily.
  3. Close fight either way.

This and Aang must be ridiculously overrated if a few people seriously think he could win round 1.

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#36 Posted by Morpheus_ (33197 posts) - - Show Bio

With the latest arguments for Azula in round 1, I changed my mind.

Aang, clean sweep.

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#37 Edited by katrurius17 (1042 posts) - - Show Bio

@morpheus_ said:

With the latest arguments for Azula in round 1, I changed my mind.

Aang, clean sweep.

Wtf??

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#38 Posted by universeichigo1 (1549 posts) - - Show Bio

R1; azula

R2; Aang

R3; Aang

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#39 Edited by Alsimmons77 (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

@morpheus_ said:

With the latest arguments for Azula in round 1, I changed my mind.

Aang, clean sweep.

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Which weird kind of logic is that?

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#40 Posted by incursion2 (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@incursion2:

Aang held his own against Ozai

Did you just watch a different finale? Aang absolutely not held his own.

and could have ended the fight had he not been merciful

Ok i slowly get a headache now to be perfectly honest, it was a freaking lightning redirection(that simply wouldn't happen for the vast majority of time with sane EoS Azula period).

That's enough for him to beat Azula.

No, getting his ass kicked by Ozai and screwing it up(why should he even suddenly be less merciful) with a technique that is nigh useless against the version of Azula in this thread is absolutely not enough to beat Azula.

Yes I watched the finale. Aang definitely did hold his own. He was mainly evading him, because that's how he typically fights. No Ozai only got a shot on him once, Aang evaded or blocked him every other time. If Aang is serious he can beat Azula, but it would be a tough fight.

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#41 Posted by Morpheus_ (33197 posts) - - Show Bio

@alsimmons77: The quality of the arguments made for Azula is so poor, that even though I initially supported her in round 1 now I think she loses.

And it's not weird logic, I was and remain facetious in saying so.

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#42 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

@incursion2:

Yes I watched the finale. Aang definitely did hold his own

Aang didn't land a single hit on Ozai and was just fleeing most of the time.

He was mainly evading him, because that's how he typically fights.

And how should he ever win like that?

No Ozai only got a shot on him once, Aang evaded or blocked him every other time

Ozai was clearly dominating the fight and Aang got not just hit once.

If Aang is serious he can beat Azula, but it would be a tough fight.

Why would Aang be more serious than against Ozai and what did he do in the finale that was truly different than what he did all the time against Azula(fleeing and blocking until she catched him)?

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#43 Edited by Alsimmons77 (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

@morpheus_ said:

@alsimmons77: The quality of the arguments made for Azula is so poor, that even though I initially supported her in round 1 now I think she loses.

And it's not weird logic, I was and remain facetious in saying so.

I'm not so sure if i understand you correctly, so you were sarcastic and said it only out of spite because you didn't like some arguments?

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#44 Posted by incursion2 (1646 posts) - - Show Bio

@incursion2:

Yes I watched the finale. Aang definitely did hold his own

Aang didn't land a single hit on Ozai and was just fleeing most of the time.

He was mainly evading him, because that's how he typically fights.

And how should he ever win like that?

No Ozai only got a shot on him once, Aang evaded or blocked him every other time

Ozai was clearly dominating the fight and Aang got not just hit once.

If Aang is serious he can beat Azula, but it would be a tough fight.

Why would Aang be more serious than against Ozai and what did he do in the finale that was truly different than what he did all the time against Azula(fleeing and blocking until she catched him)?

Most of Aangs fights were of him being evasive. I should have been clearer, evading but taking shots when he has the chance. Ozai had the advantage but he had a tough time pinning Aang down with the Comet amp as well. What I meant by if Aang is serious is if he fights more aggressively instead of being more evasive like he usually is. Ozai was more powerful than Azula, yet he couldn't take Aang out until neglected to redirect the lighting at him. Like I said it would be a tough fight but Aang would win imo.

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#45 Edited by Itachus17 (2535 posts) - - Show Bio

@incursion2:

Most of Aangs fights were of him being evasive. I should have been clearer, evading but taking shots when he has the chance.

I know how Aang fights, but i also know how he failed four times(five if we count the one where Azula had not even bending) with that against Azula.

Ozai had the advantage but he had a tough time pinning Aang down with the Comet amp as well.

Yeah, but the problem is that Azula pinned Aang several times down and he had his phenomenal agility already in B1.

What I meant by if Aang is serious is if he fights more aggressively instead of being more evasive like he usually is.

I think you're confusing Aang vs Zuko with Aang vs Azula, in the latter fought he like you said in the first part(his trolling around was in the former fights with Zuko, there was even a direct comparison in their triple fight).

Ozai was more powerful than Azula, yet he couldn't take Aang out until neglected to redirect the lighting at him.

Ozai was indeed more powerful, but ATLA isn't DBZ and if we look at the actual fight becomes it clear that Ozai showed just three actual advantages over sane Azula(and Ozai was still dominating that fight). Bigger scale with his attacks, better use of fire jets and faster charged lightning. The last one is even kind of a disadvantage as we saw(sane Azula used lightning just as finisher in direct confrontations) and Azula showed way better physical agility + precision than Ozai(among other things like versatility and actually even potency), so this fight simply wouldn't be like Aang vs a less powerful Ozai(Zuko fought mostly like Iroh, sane Azula definitely not like Ozai).

Like I said it would be a tough fight but Aang would win imo.

Again why and how? ABC scaling from Ozai's vague being more powerful status makes no logical sense, especially considering that Aang was still losing. Azula has shown time and time again that she can tag Aang and keep up with him, neither his earthbending improvements nor starting to learn firebending + the comet made him more agile(he didn't even use firejets) and the comet helps her anyways much more than him. Last but not least, like already said the same source from where we have the confirmation that Ozai was the most powerful firebender also confirmed that Azula fought much worse than usually in the finale(which wouldn't be the case in the scenario of this thread).

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#46 Edited by GXrevs06 (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Aang didn't land a single hit on Ozai and was just fleeing most of the time.

Avoid and evade" has always been Aang's fighting style and he's fought this way in pretty much every fight he's ever been in. He was comfortably dodging and blocking almost everything Ozai threw at him and was able to stay in the game for quite a while until he later lost the will to continue after absorbing Ozai's lightning. These attacks were coming from an opponent more powerful, skilled and faster than Azula.

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Hell, even blocking Ozai's flames with his own is an incredible feat for Aang's fire bending, which is easily his weakest element

Bear in mind that Aang didn't want to kill Ozai and has grown considerably stronger since then if we use comic feats

In-character, he could lose against her but he wins decisively if he is bloodlusted. Aang is just simply too versatile here(his mastery of the 4 elements gives him a plethora of offensive and defensive options and the ability to transition between the two) and can easily match her in speed, mobility and attack potency.

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#47 Posted by JediXMan (41754 posts) - - Show Bio

Azula should win, but he'd hold his own, given how well he performed defensively against Father of the Year.

Aang dominates, it's not even debatable. He literally one-shoots if he wants.

The most balanced of the three. Aang relied too heavily in Earthbending during their Ba Sing Se fight, but he grew far more adept by the conclusion of the series - I believe he'd edge her out but it would be a decent contest.

Agreed.

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#48 Edited by GXrevs06 (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

@fullmetalemprah

Am I missing something here? Aren't rounds 1 and the Bonus the same?

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#49 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (2365 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06: Round 1 has Sozin's Comet amp and the bonus round has no amps at all, just their EoS incarnations against each other. I just threw it in the OP in case someone thinks it makes a difference.

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#50 Posted by PayneInTheAss (10032 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Azula

Round 2: Aang

Bonus Round: Azula

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