August vs Irene (Fairy Tail verse)

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@jdogg said:

@phie2: Bcs August was Zeref's first and most loyal soldier lol. Nothing was ever directly stated he was the strongest by anyone but himself. The same person who doesn't even know Irene was a dragon lmao. Self hype is meaningless.

He isn't. Invel is since he's his personal secretary, August is just the strongest one. There is a reason why the message is self portrayed.

Are you really trying to imply that August is self hype?

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#102  Edited By JDogg

@phie2: Dude, August is literally stated to have helped Zeref create Alvarez. He knew Zeref since he was a kid. He is the Spriggan General bcs he was the first Spriggan. Dunno what Invel's position as secretary has anything to do with being the Spriggan General lol. Self portrayal is meaningless. Sting hyped himself to Acno level, Jeimma hyped himself to be the strongest person in Tartarus, Larcade thought he was the third strongest ect., all self hype have been proven false. Self hype is not enough to say he is the strongest.

As the strongest S12, yes since no one but himself stated he was the strongest S12.

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#103  Edited By JDogg

When those in favor of August have resort to downplaying Irene for August to win 🤦🏾‍♂️. August was hurt by Cana and countered by Cana. He was almost oneshotted by Brandish who was controlled by Mest. See where the rabbit whole of downplay goes? Seriously, Wendy did not counter Irene, Irene let her do those things. Secondly Irene held back on Erza and still bested PoF Erza who's feats are only second to PoF Natsu and she had Wendy buffs lol. Erza would be oneshotted by Irene, this was made clear in the 100YQ.

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August copies and nulls her magic ending in a stomp in his favor

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Both of them are fodder.

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@yamatama: If you forgot he can't copy Holder type of magic, lol. Irene stomps via staff or oxygen molecules in his lungs.

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@grandtoaa: @delein: Wendy countered only her first spell only because Irene was weakend after Larcade curse affect, which was designed to kill even Acnologia and Gildarts with Laxus got one-shot by this curse, at that moment. During their fight later Wendy countered separation only bcs was in Irene body and was able to use approximately 1% of her true power, while Irene in Wendy body was restricted only by >> 1% of her true power, so she was in magical disadvantage. And that Irene as Wendy B literally swatted Erza like a fly even with this scraps of MP, despite Wendy enchants increased Erza strength several times as was shown before on Sherria example. That Erza was several times stronger than Gildarts, who fought August. 1/100 Irene one-shotted Nebal.

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@phie2: By your logic Laxus also "strongest in the guild", while actually shares the last place among S-class with Erza, and a guy, who was trashed by Sting is "3rd strongest S12 and shares top S12 level with August and Irene".

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If even fodder like Mest has a chance to kill August via other S12 memory manipulation, I even don't know what to think. By portrayal Irene stomps, by feats one-shots.

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@emperor99: Don't have the energy for a long argument today but I find it funny you think Larcade's magic would affect Acnologia (when it didn't seemingly affect Sting and August), just cuz it affected Irene lol. Never seen any character overrated like Irene in FT. Perhaps you can deceive someone who didn't watch the fight with that explanation you gave.

She was outclassed by Wendy at all times, whether you like it or not. Every enchantment she did could be countered by Wendy. Even when she took over Wendy's body, Wendy was still knowledge enough to drag her out.

Erza never wanted to harm Wendy, which even Irene pointed out by calling Erza soft.

Unless she uses dragon form, August beats her.

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@grandtoaa: I can notice that we didn't discuss for a long time, lol.

It would affect because it was stated. Irene is not overrated, honestly. And even when JDogg writes someone like: "Irene solos FT guild" it is not sounds like overrating, IMAO.

I remembered that you wrote once that Erza and Wendy won that fight, bruh. So how it can't be funny to say that Wendy outclassed a master level enchantress, which was as skilled as her mentor, Zeref, which literally created demons. By this logic Wendy should be the strongest bcs she outclassed Zeref too.

You forgot that Wendy had access to Irene power in her body and even less than 1% of her true power, which was enough to overpower Irene in Wendy body, bcs Wendy magic power, naturally <<< 1% Irene magic power. It is funny to see that you think that little girl has more magic power than a real dragon. Cool. And even you can't deny that Alvarez Wendy using separation is a PIS, bcs she was taught how to use it a year later, lol.

I don't understand how August beats her if he can't protect himself from her enchants if she uses staff, and even if we suggest that he has all S12 hax bar Etherious and Irene herself, Irene still can enchant herself with all these magic like it was in Neinheart case to nullify it's effect. Remember that her enchantment actually contains some kind of reality warp effect.

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@emperor99: Both Irene and August lost to PIS and should have easily beaten their opponents if they fought to the best of their abilities, but for some reason Irene is given the benefit of doubt and excused for that, while August isn't.

BTW are you saying Irene is a more skilled than Zeref? Cuz if you wanna go that route, August was said to have more magic than him too.

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@grandtoaa: Yes, it was PIS in both fights. But unlike Irene August never fought with his daughter. And how August isn't given the benefit?

Irene and Zeref should be on the same level of enchantment. She is definitely on Zeref level bcs Zeref trusted her to separate FH, despite knows enchants too. While Irene called him as genius-enchanter, so they should be on one level.

Yes, you bring me Makarov statement about August, right? The guy who said that no one of his kids is match for Ajeel, the same Ajeel, which was defeated by Elfman and Lisanna. But you forgot that Zeref is not even a magic user). Zeref never taught August about enchants, so he didn't know about it. Lol, he was shocked when Irene used U1.

Even if August has a chance to copy enchant in his fight with Irene, dragon magic power >>> human wizard magic power.

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@grandtoaa: Wendy never outclassed Irene. She let her do those things. It was already shown that superior MP overpowers enchants in a battle between two enchanters. Irene is out skilling everything Wendy has done and is showing her the ropes of actual enchantment in the 100YQ. Nothing Wendy has done isn't capable of Irene doing while Wendy barely knows any of Irene's enchantments. You'd have ignore everything we know about Irene and enchantments to say Wendy outclassed Irene in enchantments. Wendy is not even full class high enchanter let alone Master Enchanter. Wendy out skilling Irene is about ridiculous as saying Cana out skilled August lmao.

"Wendy's knowledge dragged her out" No, it wasn't Wendy's knowledge it was Irene's magic power that did so lmao. Wendy B's MP <<<<<<<< Irene's MP.

No, Erza went all out until Irene stated she was in Wendy's body and not once could she gain the upper hand before Irene pointed that fact out.

Most of you guys ignore Irene's other showings besides the Erza fight while simultaneously overrating August perfomance against Gildarts lol. Don' try to act like August is downplayed on CV bcs that's a fat lie.

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@jdogg said:

When those in favor of August have resort to downplaying Irene for August to win 🤦🏾‍♂️. August was hurt by Cana and countered by Cana. He was almost oneshotted by Brandish who was controlled by Mest. See where the rabbit whole of downplay goes? Seriously, Wendy did not counter Irene, Irene let her do those things. Secondly Irene held back on Erza and still bested PoF Erza who's feats are only second to PoF Natsu and she had Wendy buffs lol. Erza would be oneshotted by Irene, this was made clear in the 100YQ.

Legit no one is downplaying her, you just have no argument.

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@phie2: Dude, August is literally stated to have helped Zeref create Alvarez. He knew Zeref since he was a kid. He is the Spriggan General bcs he was the first Spriggan. Dunno what Invel's position as secretary has anything to do with being the Spriggan General lol. Self portrayal is meaningless. Sting hyped himself to Acno level, Jeimma hyped himself to be the strongest person in Tartarus, Larcade thought he was the third strongest ect., all self hype have been proven false. Self hype is not enough to say he is the strongest.

As the strongest S12, yes since no one but himself stated he was the strongest S12.

Invel is his literal secretary and commands the army......but nah August is the most loyal lmao. Nothing proves that August is the most loyal which was your claim. This isn't first come first serve lol. August has actual potrayal to be the strongest, Irene doesn't.

Larcade is the third strongest with his hax. He dropped Gildarts and Laxus from football field distances away while meditating. Tf are you talking about?

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@phie2: No, you guys do. All you do is rely on one fight that was obvious PIS to downplay her capabilities.

Invel does not command the Alvarez army at all lol. He is a secretary bcs he helps deal with the day to day of Alvarez affairs. August is literally Zeref's first soldier and helped Zeref build Alvarez from the ground up. There is literally no one who has known Zeref longer in Alvarez than August. August has no portrayal of being the strongest besides his own. The actual portrayal is August and Human Irene are on equal footing lol.

Larcade is not the third strongest. His self hype was proven wrong when he was getting tossed up by Base Sting. Cool, literally any of the ha, S12 could do that, lilke DiMaria, Jacob, Brandish, Bloodman, ect lol. It wasn't just him that was capable of out hax-ing Laxus and Gild. Dunno what you are talking about bruh.

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@phie2: If we are going by PIS and feats, when August and Irene both blundered, you can find more situations in August case than in Irene's.

Proclaiming by themselves as strongest and 3rd strongest in August and Larcade cases means nothing. Laxus, for example, thought that he is the strongest in the guild while we have at least Gildarts in this guild too.

Brandish literally said that August is the strongest among men of S12, while Irene is the strongest among women among S12, which puts them at least in one league by this statement, if we except the fact that now one S12 knew who Irene was bar Zeref.

Erza which fought Irene, easily was stronger than every FT wizard at that point. We saw that Wendy enchantments boosted TO Sherria to the point when she was able to tip scales to their favor in fight with DiMaria. 100yq Erza equal to Laxus and all S-class wizards are on similar level, which means that Irene fight was equal to fight at least with all S-class wizards at the same time, while in August case it was fight only with one S-class and Cana, who is barely mid tied in the guild.

Larcade is strong, but you forgot that Irene can create two swords which are on Larcade and Bloodman level by their statement, lol (if we except that first are Zeref's creations, while second - Irene's) As for Laxus and Gildarts, S12 hax makes them looks like fodders not only for Larcade, but to Bloodman, DiMaria or Brandish at least, for example. While all these guys looks like fodders in comparison to 2 S12 top tiers due to Brandish.

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Irene still stomps

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@emperor99: I did say that Dragon Irene wins, but August definitely beats human Irene. And I'll leave it at that, cuz based on our history, its useless arguing further.

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@edd57: Based on what? I think Irene mid diffs him.

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august high diff based on statements.

august stomps based on feats.

in every scenario, august wins.

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august high diff based on statements.

august stomps based on feats.

in every scenario, august wins.

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Irene mid-high diffs, she is much faster

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Damn it almost like the narrative of the manga showed time and time again August was the superior one of the two

August High Diffs

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august high diff based on statements.

august stomps based on feats.

in every scenario, august wins.

Based on statements? In the anime it was stated that irene is as equal or stronger then august

Based on feats? Is august the person that got blitzed by acnologia while irene effortlessly dodged an underground attack from him?

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@animefreak1 said:

Damn it almost like the narrative of the manga showed time and time again Augustwas the superior one of the two

August High Diffs

Never was shown. This is canon where never was shown his superiority.

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In terms of magic power Irene > August according to Mavis, bcs she was the lastest in group, which presence was felt by Mavis.

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August fighting a dragon w|o DS magic = preventual L by definition bcs dragon can't be beaten or harmed by non DS magic,

and if we suggest that he has time to summon Serena, which has to be dead already, Serena attacks turns into the same joke

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but even if we forgot that she is a dragon, he is not beating her bcs can't nullify her magic, otherwise I need an explanation how he deals at least with this spells against which his copy-cancelling is pretty useless

While Irene can make herself immune to his magic even if he already copied all other S12

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Still waiting from August opposite how he nulls even base enchant if he copies it (bcs haven't objects to manipulate with them) and where he finds the same staff and the same gloves with claws to copy another enchants

Irene wins mid diff here

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@grandtoaa said:

@emperor99: I did say that Dragon Irene wins, but August definitely beats human Irene.

She's not a human

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and he is not passing enchant with crush or any other hax, including time stop

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Why would August need to have Irene’s staff to copy her abilities when her magic isn’t holder type and she’s used her magic without it?

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august probably does take it due to copy magic but either ways its with extreme diff

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@almount: Staff makes it a holder type and either way he can't copy material and objects as he admitted.

If August was able to copy it then he would able to use it and Zeref would order him to separate FH, bcs August magic allows him to mastery it.

August failed to null U1 and was teleported to random place lol.

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@haider7ds: He hasn't DS magic to hurt her and can't copy her.

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Going with August

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Funny to see how all August fanboys even can't explain how he wins here. Imagine thinking that August wins just "bcs he copies her" Lmao.

If we are going by this way, Irene blitzes and one-shots the loser, who even wasn't able to see Base Acno.

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August high diff

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It seems that ppl don't read manga

Literally the principle how Irene magic works

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Then explanation about August magic

Irene beats mid diff based on statements.

Irene stomps based on feats.

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@etherious said:

august high diff based on statements.

august stomps based on feats.

in every scenario, august wins.

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@etherious said:

august high diff based on statements.

august stomps based on feats.

in every scenario, august wins.

how does august stomps based on feats? both of them have good feats, with feats and statements it can go either way but its with EXTREME diff

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August.

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August slaps

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#148 cocacolaman  Moderator

August beats human Irene and loses to Dragon Irene. As we’ve seen, MASSIVE difference between human and Dragon form.

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August stands a chance against Dragon Irene if he can copy her dragon slaying magic, otherwise Irene wins

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@cocacolaman: In Selene case. In Aldo was stated that he is equal to his dragin form.