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#1 Posted by those_eyes (17291 posts) - - Show Bio
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Start 200 feet away from eachother

winner by ko, death, or incap

fight here

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#2 Posted by those_eyes (17291 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Edited by deactivated-o78sdg008 (2433 posts) - - Show Bio

Atomic Samurai speed feats?

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#4 Posted by AlphaQ (6348 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack.

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#5 Posted by deactivated-57c3cf21b495e (2448 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso said:

Atomic Samurai speed feats?

He has none.

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#6 Posted by kenshima15 (668 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso said:

Atomic Samurai speed feats?

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#7 Posted by deactivated-o78sdg008 (2433 posts) - - Show Bio

@kenshima15: Yeah, I have watched the anime and I found no really quantifiable speed feats for anyone except OPM and Boros. Going by the anime, Atomic Samurai has nothing which Jack can't handle easily.

But if he has better feats from the manga I'm all ears.

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#8 Posted by PervertedHisoka (146 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso said:

@kenshima15: Yeah, I have watched the anime and I found no really quantifiable speed feats for anyone except OPM and Boros. Going by the anime, Atomic Samurai has nothing which Jack can't handle easily.

But if he has better feats from the manga I'm all ears.

Nah he is quite featless.

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#9 Posted by emperorthanos- (16574 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai jack should win. Atomic Samurai doesn't have any great feats

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#10 Edited by XLR87T3 (10055 posts) - - Show Bio

@those_eyes: His water drop feat was calculated at being mach 7.4, and his durability ranges from skyscraper to city level.

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#11 Posted by PervertedHisoka (146 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

Feats for the skyscraper and city level?

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#12 Posted by deactivated-5ba89dccd4593 (353 posts) - - Show Bio

Samurai Jack is a beast.

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#13 Edited by deactivated-o78sdg008 (2433 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3: To be honest both his blunt and heat durability are much above city level. He has the 700 ton sumo feat, falling off a mountain, Aku's fire which melted a metal shield to cinders barely left a scratch on him,he has tanked a city busting explosion. And of course there's the atmospheric reentry feat.

His best cutting durabiity feat is I think when he took numerous slashes from those Egyptian beasts head on. These beasts solo'd Aku's entire robot army and were casually slicing apart monuments.

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#14 Posted by synchronized_123 (2271 posts) - - Show Bio

Atomic Samurai got done in pretty bad when Black Sperm was able to land a hit. Genos took multiple hits to the face and was still capable of fighting off the army of Black Sperm for awhile. And you know, Genos is commonly mistaken to have paper durability. So by scaling AS wouldn't last that long.

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#15 Posted by XLR87T3 (10055 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3:

Feats for the skyscraper and city level?

I didn't have time to find the episodes because I haven't seen the show in years and I had chores. I just know for sure that Jack and Scotsman got hit with a giant bullet that blew up a huge area (not quite city level, but multi-block level). Jack ended up surviving when everyone thought he was dead.

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@xlr87t3: To be honest both his blunt and heat durability are much above city level. He has the 700 ton sumo feat, falling off a mountain, Aku's fire which melted a metal shield to cinders barely left a scratch on him,he has tanked a city busting explosion. And of course there's the atmospheric reentry feat.

His best cutting durabiity feat is I think when he took numerous slashes from those Egyptian beasts head on. These beasts solo'd Aku's entire robot army and were casually slicing apart monuments.

I know Captain America is famous for jumping off huge heights and coming off unscathed, but I tend to overlook that because that's just him. With Samurai Jack I would do an actual calculation since he's completely superhuman.

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#16 Posted by hizack123 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol time to stop lowball here XD

http://imgur.com/a/L2ceF

Here's the feat. Haragiri's head should be at least as large as Atomic Samurai's since they were already equal-ish height and taking monster form grew him further. AMM calculated Atomic Samurai's height here. To lowball the calculation as much as reasonable I will only account for the actual slash lines we see, and not the extra distance moved through moving the blade 180 degrees and such.

http://i.imgur.com/gxfXejV.jpg

Atomic Samurai's Head - 0.22125 meters or 392.75 px

Distance to from Blade - 68 px

Speed of Blade - 340.29 m/s (absolute minimum)

68/392.75 = 0.173x

0.173*0.22125 = 0.0382 meters

0.0382 meters/340.29 m/s = 0.00011226 seconds

Now for the hard part...

http://i.imgur.com/zFCce5I.jpg

Haragiri Head Height - 0.22125 meters or 183.98 px

Line 1 - 1197.48 px

Line 2 - 1079.13 px

Line 3 - 363.78 px

Line 4 - 871.62 px

Line 5 - 813.1 px

Line 6 - 944.38 px

Line 7 - 977.68 px

Line 8 - 323.34 px

Line 9 - 421.03 px

Line 10 - 409.87 px

Line 11 - 898.67 px

Line 12 - 810.87 px

Line 13 - 270.16 px

Line 14 - 447.97 px

Line 15 - 235.05 px

Line 16 - 220.2 px

Line 17 - 964.11 px

Line 18 - 182.02 px

Line 19 - 704.64 px

Line 20 - 707 px

Line 21 - 869.13 px

Line 22 - 691.68 px

Line 23 - 418.82 px

Line 24 - 1028.2 px

Line 25 - 1030.02 px

Line 26 - 592.19 px

Line 27 - 1009.78 px

Line 28 - 372.13 px

Line 29 - 233.64 px

Line 30 - 482.56 px

Line 31 - 343.53 px

Line 32 - 275.77 px

Line 33 - 363.1 px

Line 34 - 122.97 px

Line 35 - 115.21 px

Line 36 - 516.8 px

Line 37 - 1013.49 px

Line 38 - 1101.59 px

Line 39 - 1057.15 px

Line 40 - 1089.1 px

Line 41 - 485.69 px

Line 42 - 951.56 px

Line 43 - 878.04 px

Line 44 - 1285.28 px

Time to add all these together.

Total Distance Moved - 29,169.53 px

Divide that by Haragiri's head and we can conclude Atomic Samurai moved at least 158.55x that distnace.

158.55*0.22125 = 35.08 meters

35.08 meters/0.00011226 seconds = 312,488.865 m/s

However, as said above, this doesn't account for each actual movement of his sword, just the parts that actually got cut. He makes 42 slashes, despite me measuring 44 lines, this is just because I didn't notice some extra distance on some lines. So how long is his sword?

http://i.imgur.com/OjCGK0s.jpg

Atomic Samurai Head Height - 0.22125 meters or 97.27 px

Atomic Samurai Blade + Arm Length - 701.04 px

701.04/97.27 = 7.207x

7.207*0.22125 = 1.594 meters

Circumference = (2)(pi)(r) = 10.02 meters, so 5.01 meters per swing

5.01*42 = 210.42 meters

210.42 meters/0.00011226 seconds = 1,874,398.72 m/s

Now both of these are technically low-ends, as Haragiri's blade does not move at all really. So to get a high-end for this feat I'll assume it moved just 1 cm between those two frames.

1 cm/340.29 m/s = 0.00002938 seconds

35.08 meters/0.00002938 seconds = 1,194,000 m/s

210.42 meters/0.00002938 seconds = 7,162,014.98 m/s

Results

Atomic Samurai's Speed (Slashes only) - Mach 918.3, Massively Hypersonic

Atomic Samura's Speed (Distance moved) - Mach 5508.24, Massively Hypersonic+

Atomic Samurai's Speed (1 cm timeframe) - Mach 3508.77, Massively Hypersonic+

Atomic Samurai's Speed (1 cm timeframe) - 0.024c, Sub-Relativistic

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#17 Posted by deactivated-5c7e1b5f631f5 (1472 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Edited by hizack123 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@theonlytruth: am not the one who do this okay? XD but damn! High end Sub-Relativistic -O-

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#19 Posted by SirFizzWhizz (37749 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Edited by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@sirfizzwhizz: How does this feat allow him to stomp? Jack had entire fight in the second it took for a water drop to fall.

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#21 Posted by TrueAustralian (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55:

The biggest one that comes to mind is the famous "Water" scene with the Bounty Hunters:

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If you watch at the start of this clip, the drop of water hits the ground almost as soon as it goes off the bottom of the screen. By looking at it frame-by-frame, I’m estimating it takes around 12 frames.

In simple terms, the video contained 1551 frames.

For a 64 second clip, that's 24.2 frames per second, which means that it takes the drop around half a second to hit the ground.

The drop releases at 0:26 and lands at 0:57, however a full 10 seconds (at 0:29, 0:39 and 0:45) is spent in time-stopped action poses, so it's really only a 21 second gap.

Which means Samurai Jack performed 21 seconds of actions in a 0.5 second time span, implying he's moving 42x faster than normal.

Playing the video in real time:

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By my estimates, that should place Jack at a minimal speed of... Subsonic?

Hmm...

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#22 Posted by kotetsu454 (1086 posts) - - Show Bio

Somebody help, I'm not smart enough to tell if this is Bull**** or not.

Lol time to stop lowball here XD

http://imgur.com/a/L2ceF

Here's the feat. Haragiri's head should be at least as large as Atomic Samurai's since they were already equal-ish height and taking monster form grew him further. AMM calculated Atomic Samurai's height here. To lowball the calculation as much as reasonable I will only account for the actual slash lines we see, and not the extra distance moved through moving the blade 180 degrees and such.

http://i.imgur.com/gxfXejV.jpg

Atomic Samurai's Head - 0.22125 meters or 392.75 px

Distance to from Blade - 68 px

Speed of Blade - 340.29 m/s (absolute minimum)

68/392.75 = 0.173x

0.173*0.22125 = 0.0382 meters

0.0382 meters/340.29 m/s = 0.00011226 seconds

Now for the hard part...

http://i.imgur.com/zFCce5I.jpg

Haragiri Head Height - 0.22125 meters or 183.98 px

Line 1 - 1197.48 px

Line 2 - 1079.13 px

Line 3 - 363.78 px

Line 4 - 871.62 px

Line 5 - 813.1 px

Line 6 - 944.38 px

Line 7 - 977.68 px

Line 8 - 323.34 px

Line 9 - 421.03 px

Line 10 - 409.87 px

Line 11 - 898.67 px

Line 12 - 810.87 px

Line 13 - 270.16 px

Line 14 - 447.97 px

Line 15 - 235.05 px

Line 16 - 220.2 px

Line 17 - 964.11 px

Line 18 - 182.02 px

Line 19 - 704.64 px

Line 20 - 707 px

Line 21 - 869.13 px

Line 22 - 691.68 px

Line 23 - 418.82 px

Line 24 - 1028.2 px

Line 25 - 1030.02 px

Line 26 - 592.19 px

Line 27 - 1009.78 px

Line 28 - 372.13 px

Line 29 - 233.64 px

Line 30 - 482.56 px

Line 31 - 343.53 px

Line 32 - 275.77 px

Line 33 - 363.1 px

Line 34 - 122.97 px

Line 35 - 115.21 px

Line 36 - 516.8 px

Line 37 - 1013.49 px

Line 38 - 1101.59 px

Line 39 - 1057.15 px

Line 40 - 1089.1 px

Line 41 - 485.69 px

Line 42 - 951.56 px

Line 43 - 878.04 px

Line 44 - 1285.28 px

Time to add all these together.

Total Distance Moved - 29,169.53 px

Divide that by Haragiri's head and we can conclude Atomic Samurai moved at least 158.55x that distnace.

158.55*0.22125 = 35.08 meters

35.08 meters/0.00011226 seconds = 312,488.865 m/s

However, as said above, this doesn't account for each actual movement of his sword, just the parts that actually got cut. He makes 42 slashes, despite me measuring 44 lines, this is just because I didn't notice some extra distance on some lines. So how long is his sword?

http://i.imgur.com/OjCGK0s.jpg

Atomic Samurai Head Height - 0.22125 meters or 97.27 px

Atomic Samurai Blade + Arm Length - 701.04 px

701.04/97.27 = 7.207x

7.207*0.22125 = 1.594 meters

Circumference = (2)(pi)(r) = 10.02 meters, so 5.01 meters per swing

5.01*42 = 210.42 meters

210.42 meters/0.00011226 seconds = 1,874,398.72 m/s

Now both of these are technically low-ends, as Haragiri's blade does not move at all really. So to get a high-end for this feat I'll assume it moved just 1 cm between those two frames.

1 cm/340.29 m/s = 0.00002938 seconds

35.08 meters/0.00002938 seconds = 1,194,000 m/s

210.42 meters/0.00002938 seconds = 7,162,014.98 m/s

Results

Atomic Samurai's Speed (Slashes only) - Mach 918.3, Massively Hypersonic

Atomic Samura's Speed (Distance moved) - Mach 5508.24, Massively Hypersonic+

Atomic Samurai's Speed (1 cm timeframe) - Mach 3508.77, Massively Hypersonic+

Atomic Samurai's Speed (1 cm timeframe) - 0.024c, Sub-Relativistic

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#23 Posted by emperorthanos- (16574 posts) - - Show Bio

@kotetsu454: calcs are always BS and change for each person. They aren't reliable.

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#24 Edited by TrueAustralian (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@kotetsu454: Most reasonable estimates are mid-high triple digit mach. I would ignore anything higher.

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#25 Edited by hizack123 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@trueaustralian: well im Just here to tell atomic samurai it not slow but yeah even with his best feat so far he still slow then Jack.

Edit:i mean Jack dodge a sunlight.....so many time.

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#26 Edited by TrueAustralian (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@hizack123:

Oh really?

light already hit the ground to his right.
light already hit the ground to his right.
Still hasn't reacted.
Still hasn't reacted.
Finally dodges something that wasn't even aimed at him in the first place.
Finally dodges something that wasn't even aimed at him in the first place.
Light lands well to his front right.
Light lands well to his front right.
Starts dodging after it has already landed
Starts dodging after it has already landed
Still dodging.
Still dodging.
Finally gets away from the second beam not aimed at him.
Finally gets away from the second beam not aimed at him.
Jack looks ready this time.
Jack looks ready this time.
And nope.
And nope.
At least he is trying right?
At least he is trying right?
Maybe he should try aim dodging.
Maybe he should try aim dodging.
Nope.
Nope.
Still nope.
Still nope.
He looks ready again, but last time...
He looks ready again, but last time...
What's this? Jack dodges before anything happens?
What's this? Jack dodges before anything happens?
Jack uses aim dodging, its super effective.
Jack uses aim dodging, its super effective.
Although that beam was still aimed off to his right.
Although that beam was still aimed off to his right.
Atleast he was faster this time?
Atleast he was faster this time?
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#28 Posted by hizack123 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@trueaustralian: so how is this differrent than what did i just said?

I already know Jack dodge lightspeed attack so many time that i lost counts :p

The reason i post the calc it only because i can't stand the amount of lowball for anime i seen that it.

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#29 Edited by TrueAustralian (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@hizack123: You are blind if you think he is dodging anything in those screens.

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#30 Posted by Mee09 (5765 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Samurai Jack

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#31 Posted by hizack123 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@trueaustralian: ......(reading).......OH SH!t XD so you to tell that he not that fast so sorry than lol

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#33 Posted by hizack123 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@trueaustralian: so how fast you think he it than

Rate from 1.MHS (MACH 300+) 2.MHS+(MACH 2000+) 3.Sub-Relativistic and 4.Relativistic.

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#36 Posted by deactivated-o78sdg008 (2433 posts) - - Show Bio

@trueaustralian: I don't understand this weird double standard. You lowball Jack's feat using needlessly pedantic nitpicking when its clear what the creator's intentions were. But you go by pixels scaling, which is one of the absolute dubious ways to quantify a feat, to prove that Atomic Samurai is in Mach 3 digits. Not to mention there are not too many quantifiable feats in OPM anyway and I have seen fan calcs vary widely (Boros is considered by some to be around Mach 40-50 while others think him to be relativistic).

Just to be clear I am not saying Jack wins this, but there's clear bias if you outright dismiss his feats but claim a side character from a series with an exaggerated animation style and basically one legit feat stomps Jack.

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#37 Posted by TrueAustralian (1186 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso: Even without pixel scaling, AS stood up from a sitting position and swung his sword 40 times in the time it took a supersonic blade to clear a couple inches, that makes him wildly faster than supersonic. You can claim creator intent all you want, but the fact is you don't know what the creators intent was because its never stated by the creator.

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#38 Posted by Aimless (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

Recently Atonic Samurai blitzed a mach+ opponent effortlessly.

Still Jack's feats are more impressive

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#39 Posted by TOATOAA (1195 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack is more impressive my butt

Samurai blitz's him

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#40 Posted by MainJP (6158 posts) - - Show Bio

Jack is more impressive. Fur sure.

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#41 Posted by Skrskr (3538 posts) - - Show Bio

With pro hero scaling AS

With feats jack

Not caught up on web comic so correct me if I'm wrong

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#42 Posted by Just_Banter (12413 posts) - - Show Bio

The blitz is so real

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#43 Edited by Elijah_C_Washington (4618 posts) - - Show Bio

Atomic Samurai just seems better at what they both excel at.

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#46 Posted by Avatar_of_Gaea (573 posts) - - Show Bio

@trueaustralian: Jack also dodged light against those ninjas and has reflected lasers

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#47 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1672 posts) - - Show Bio

Atomic Samurai cuts him to bits

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#48 Posted by cromulor (2367 posts) - - Show Bio

Atomic Samurai

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