A:TLA/TLOK Bender Battle Tournament

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#201 cocacolaman  Moderator

@aystarr said:
@cocacolaman said:
@byondeon said:

@cocacolaman I would have to go Korra. You should be ashamed of yourself for putting Korra against Toph this early..

I had to make some rough decisions. I swear I randomized it 50 times before I get the rounds I thought would work best.

This makes me wonder what the other options were if this was this best matchup of everything lol.

I didn't write the other options down, but after all was said and done I figured "Eh, if Toph will have to go out, it might as well be to Korra."

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Korra pretty easily. It's sad such a powerful bender like Toph is going out so early.

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Voting for Korra.

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Korra, far too many options at her disposable and her spouts would give Toph fits.

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Wouldn't it be cool if we saw Korra or other firebenders in a comic create a fire spout?

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@byondeon: Didnt Kyoshi create a sort of fire tornado in her book with assistance from her airbending?

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@byondeon: Didnt Kyoshi create a sort of fire tornado in her book with assistance from her airbending?

Not read the books so can't tell, but I was talking about a pure Fire Spout.

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Lin should take this fairly easily.

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@cocacolaman: remember all waterbenders have their night time powers.

OT: I'm going with pakku, the only thing Lin has going for her here is her mobility which is countered hard by pakku's own, he has reacted to attacks better/faster than hers and she doesn't have the ability to overpower him.

It's gonna be close but I see pakku having a 7/10 advantage.

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#211  Edited By viking1205

Without additional metal in the location Lin will have to rely only on her cables and earthbending, which while powerful in its own right isn't enough to give an edge against someone like Pakku in this particular scenario where there's more than reasonable amount of water, by which he should be able beat Lin when she's restricted to Earth alone.

That said, I believe this would much more tougher matchup to decide if Lin has additional metal source.

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@byondeon: how?, Waterbenders have their night time powers.

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Pakku but barely.

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I’m gonna think about it for a bit before I vote.

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Pakku after a tough one since he has a good source of water and Lin is lacking additional metal.

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I'm leaning towards Lin but I could be convinced otherwise.

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@aystarr said:

@byondeon: how?, Waterbenders have their night time powers.

Lin would stomp Moon Boosted Pakku. And even then, pretty sure only Hama is Moon Boost.

And while they are stronger during night time, still not enough to beat Lin.

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#218  Edited By byondeon

Holy shit, people overrate Pakku so fricken much here. He would get absolutely destroyed by Lin.

The only good feats he has is against Katara and those are not close enough to beat Lin.

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#219 cocacolaman  Moderator

Hama has full moon and everyone else is just standard nighttime

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Pakku after a tough one since he has a good source of water and Lin is lacking additional metal.

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Without additional metal in the location Lin will have to rely only on her cables and earthbending, which while powerful in its own right isn't enough to give an edge against someone like Pakku in this particular scenario where there's more than reasonable amount of water, by which he should be able beat Lin when she's restricted to Earth alone.

That said, I believe this would much more tougher matchup to decide if Lin has additional metal source.

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@tektonic said:
@viking1205 said:

Without additional metal in the location Lin will have to rely only on her cables and earthbending, which while powerful in its own right isn't enough to give an edge against someone like Pakku in this particular scenario where there's more than reasonable amount of water, by which he should be able beat Lin when she's restricted to Earth alone.

That said, I believe this would much more tougher matchup to decide if Lin has additional metal source.

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@tektonic said:
@viking1205 said:

Without additional metal in the location Lin will have to rely only on her cables and earthbending, which while powerful in its own right isn't enough to give an edge against someone like Pakku in this particular scenario where there's more than reasonable amount of water, by which he should be able beat Lin when she's restricted to Earth alone.

That said, I believe this would much more tougher matchup to decide if Lin has additional metal source.

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Aww. That last round went too fast. I didn't get to troll Korra a bit. I'll just do it now.

Old Lady Toph > Early Book 4 Korra, so Prime Toph > Prime Korra. Boom. *Mic Drop*

Toph unfortunately had a terrible first round matchup, and I think she was sabotaged. I have prime suspects, but no one is clear of suspicion...

As far as this round, I'll still be siding with a Beifong.

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Lin, barely.

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#226 cocacolaman  Moderator

@indomitableregal:

Aww. That last round went too fast. I didn't get to troll Korra a bit. I'll just do it now.

You should have taken your chance! The Avatar rounds were faster in general anyway not to waste time.

Toph unfortunately had a terrible first round matchup, and I think she was sabotaged

It was going to be either her or someone else (I won't say who) to fight Korra and the randomizer made its decision.

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@cocacolaman: Oh, okay. Yeah that makes sense. All good. Carry on lol. Nothing to see here. *crosses Cola off suspect list; continues to speculate*

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This is a tough fight to call. Lin doesn't really have any metal and pakku has a fair amount of water. Still, Lin has a mobility Advantage here, and her earth bending is really powerful. I think she can bring out a win.

Voting Lin

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How is Pakku win here based on the fact he doesn't have a moon boost? Also, how is he even winning with it?

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#230  Edited By cocacolaman  Moderator

@byondeon said:

How is Pakku win here based on the fact he doesn't have a moon boost? Also, how is he even winning with it?

Probably the lack of abundance of metal around sways people away from Lin. I still back her based on a number of reasons, though.

She has range enough, she should be better in CQC, she's got bending abilities Pakku never dealt with (seismic sensing and metalbending) while she has experience against the likes of Ming Hua, and earthbending in general being a great counter to waterbending IMO.

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@byondeon said:

How is Pakku win here based on the fact he doesn't have a moon boost? Also, how is he even winning with it?

Probably the lack of abundance of metal around sways people away from Lin. I still back her based on a number of reasons, though.

She has range enough, she should be better in CQC, she's got bending abilities Pakku never dealt with (seismic sensing and metalbending) while she has experience against the likes of Ming Hua, and earthbending in general being a great counter to waterbending IMO.

True. People undersell her because of her lack of metal in the catacombs while completely forgetting that she for the most part only use her cables and armor in a fight. She has also shown proficiency in earthbending. Not to mention that the location suit her perfectly.

And as you said, Earthbending is a counter to waterbending unless ofc you can use spouts, which Pakku have not shown he can do without boost. And that is only against Toph I would say as Lin can actually see so a spout would only make him more mobile.

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#232  Edited By eslay03

I’m going to vote for Lin by a hair. I don’t think Pakku would fair well against her metal cables. It’s a tight one nonetheless.

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#233  Edited By cocacolaman  Moderator

On the bright side of everything, pretty much every other match is a debatable one IMO.

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@cocacolaman: Hama has full moon feats but no bloodbending right?

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#237 cocacolaman  Moderator

@chloros said:

@cocacolaman: Hama has full moon feats but no bloodbending right?

She has access to bloodbending.

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If Hama can bloodbend, and according to the tournament rules she does, she wins since there's nothing to suggest Ozai can break out.

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#239 cocacolaman  Moderator

@byondeon I'm curious to hear your opinion most tbh

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Hama because of bloodbending

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If ozai can get a shot like mako, he might win, but for now I pick Hama

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Hama via bloodbending.

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Voting for the Puppetmaster

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#244 cocacolaman  Moderator

Mako managed to get a shot off lightning off on Amon. Ozai is a more powerful firebender than firebenders that would embarrass Mako, and Hama is a weaker waterbender than Amon. There's no reason that Ozai can't get a fire blast off on Hama and put her down.

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Hama

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#246  Edited By mejames255

Ozai

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Ozai wins due to all his amazing feats outside of the comet, and from not only knowing of bloodbending, but from having already resisted it. And it's not like Hama would have any real desire to outright murder Ozai due to any preexisting grudge against the Fire Nation.

This is sarcasm. I'm going with Hama.

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Hama should win. Ozai's lightning is faster than normal, but it's not instant. He can't point and shoot like mako, and unlike Amon Hama usually makes her opponents kneel to the ground, so Ozai will not his finger pointing at her like mako did.

Vote hama

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I'm glad Ozai is pit against a bloodbender, thus making it possibly the least controversial way to eliminate him in the early stages, so that we wouldn't have him in battles at his base levels (which are hard to gauge honestly) deep into the tourney.

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#250  Edited By byondeon

I would say unless Ozai has comet boost (which he doesn't), Hama should take this. While I think that Ozai would be more powerful, he wouldn't be able to get around her bloodbending.

EDIT: I would say though that if she would give Ozai the opportunity that Amon gave Mako, then honestly, Ozai one-shot.

EDIT: Hama takes it though more often than not.