Ata (samurai 8) vs Invincible (comic)

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Poll Ata (samurai 8) vs Invincible (comic) (25 votes)

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#1  Edited By EstrellaDeLeon

Ata's clone can travel through quadrants of galaxies in little time while cutting up asteroids, can cleave moons in half just as a side effect of bull-rushing them, and is hyped up as a planet destroyer; Ata can destroy planets of a 10k kms radius with his angular warheads.

At his peak, you could argue him at star level, considering he gets Kala's sword, and Kala is stated to be a star destroyer. This is not counting his ridiculous immortality/regen, his BFR, his attacks on spiritual/sub atomic level, etc.

Not sure if Invincible can do much.

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Ata.

Unless you scale Mark to and above people he fought (or Nolan) in crossovers.

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@konohana: Does it give him anything that lets him bypass his hax and immortality even with crossovers?

A Samurai's immortality is so broken, they can will themselves back to life, and he can send someone into a void where they're slowly erased from existence.

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Ata's clone can travel through quadrants of galaxies in little time while cutting up asteroids, can cleave moons in half just as a side effect of bull-rushing them, and is hyped up as a planet destroyer; Ata can destroy planets of a 10k kms radius with his angular warheads.

Forget the "hyped up as a planet destroyer".

His Clone was fragmenting the Cube Galactic Region planets.

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Meanwhile Daruma also confirmed he's strong enough to obliterate planets, with on-panel feat:

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Directly scales above Yoshitsune who was a Samurai strong enough to cut planets into pieces:

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And even scales above his Space Holder, Oniwakamaru, that was putting immense scars (with a simple swing of his blade from the outer space) on a Large Planet. Large enough to completely dwarf a planet sized holder:

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And he's above less-than-50% Human Form Daruma, that was effortlesly tanking and ragdolling Oniwakamaru:

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In his Space Holder Mode he blocked two direct attacks of Space Holder Daruma and Hanaichi:

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And last but not least his Holder can spam planet busting warheads, stated to be similar of the explosion of dying stars in AP. From intergalacting distance:

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Ata is not on Mother Flame level but he's not too far away from its immense potency. Joking.

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@miriotogata: Haha, legit.

Always have had Ata at around star level, anyways, considering he should somewhat scale to his master or above, he is the peerless after all.

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@miriotogata: Haha, legit.

Always have had Ata at around star level, anyways, considering he should somewhat scale to his master or above, he is the peerless after all.

Yup. Mastering the Star Breaking Atmos Fang would also mean you are a star level Samurai, considering BoS Hachimaru with his double digit stats created an Atmos Fang as big as the planet and reduced the moon into space dust... and Cat Daruma doing it with a toothpick was a threat for the planet if he aimed at it.

In order to make a real Star Breaking Atmos Fang a Samurai needs 900 in all his stats, otherwise if he has lower stats the attack will be incomplete and weaker.

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@estrelladeleon said:

@konohana: Does it give him anything that lets him bypass his hax and immortality even with crossovers?

A Samurai's immortality is so broken, they can will themselves back to life, and he can send someone into a void where they're slowly erased from existence.

No, it’s more so upgrading his AP and not so much his resistances or hax.

How do you even put down a samurai in the verse? I’ve read a bit of the series, but I’ve stopped half-way.

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@konohana said:

@estrelladeleon said:

@konohana: Does it give him anything that lets him bypass his hax and immortality even with crossovers?

A Samurai's immortality is so broken, they can will themselves back to life, and he can send someone into a void where they're slowly erased from existence.

How do you even put down a samurai in the verse? I’ve read a bit of the series, but I’ve stopped half-way.

It all depends on the God of the verse's whim, Fudo Myoo (in the end the MC will turn into a Fudoo Myoo aswell). This dude is the creator of everything in the infinite universe of S8, including the Samurai and their styles (the abilities, hax etc.). Initially he was an immense god with stars on his back, traveling from universe to universe (it's implied the verse is multiversal) and casually creating galaxies, stars, life etc. from nothingness. Basically a sentient Big Bang.

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After that he turned into a higher dimensional God, with his existence being present as data and connected to everything and everyone in the S8 universe.

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@miriotogata:

It all depends on the God of the verse's whim, Fudo Myoo (in the end the MC will turn into a Fudoo Myoo aswell).

So they can’t be beaten to death or even BFR’ed?

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@estrelladeleon: A healthy application of Soroken can help as well, though it doesn't kill Samurai it stops regen of any part of the body cut by it. Yasha's Samurai soul also causes injuries that will never heal... Then there's Kala's blade that forcefully discorporates anything it touches (even a fucking Shockwave from the blade has the same effect)

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@f3m1: Yeah man, Ata is busted, wished we saw more of him honestly (even if we got enough, still)

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@estrelladeleon:

Basically this.

Mark has a chance to win with his higher scaling then.

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@estrelladeleon: the guy would have ended the series in chapter 8 or so if not for Hachimaru's dad with the talk no jutsu.... You can literally see hachimaru discorporating before that.

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@konohana said:

@estrelladeleon:

Basically this.

Mark has a chance to win with his higher scaling then.

Unless he can negate will based immortality, no, he cannot.

A single sword slash would just discorporate him, and even attack him on a sub atomic level.

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#16  Edited By Konohana

@estrelladeleon:

Unless he can negate will based immortality, no, he cannot.

A single sword slash would just discorporate him, and even attack him on a sub atomic level.

So there’s no limit to Ata’s immortality, even if their AP is, for example, at solar-systemlevel?

Mark definitely isn’t taking him though, and I’m mostly playing at the idea that his AP compares to Ata’s through using higher-end scaling, which I personally don’t use.

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@konohana: There are also Yasha and Master Kala fighting close to a supermassive black hole, that was sucking and breaking down the planets around them, for decades. Both were unaffected.

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@konohana: Reliant immortality isn't really being bypassed by punching harder, it's not how immortality works.

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@estrelladeleon said:

@konohana: Reliant immortality isn't really being bypassed by punching harder, it's not how immortality works.

I’m not saying that’s the case either.

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@konohana: There are also Yasha and Master Kala fighting close to a supermassive black hole, that was sucking and breaking down the planets around them, for decades. Both were unaffected.

Okay.

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@konohana: why would punching harder help you bypass immortality?

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@ecoblitz said:

@konohana: why would punching harder help you bypass immortality?

That’s not what I meant, but I’m just making sure it’s not an example of NLF.

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@konohana: it’s stated multiple times samurai can’t die except they lose their will to live.

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@ecoblitz:

There’s no point in attempting to engage in this with me, it’s over.

I don’t care, move on.

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Ata stomps.

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What the hell Ata negs

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Ata can solo the verse.

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Ata is too haxxed.

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samurai 8 wank will always be crazy to me

"star level" ata 💀