Asta Black Clover Vs Hachimaru Samurai 8

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Takes place at the fourth great ninja war battlefield Random Encounter going all out

round 1 speed is equal

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round 2 speed is not who wins

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I could see first round going either ways. Asta has more raw stats and higher DC while hachi has good regen.

Asta blitzes and destroys him in the second round its not funny.

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Hachimaru needs more feats IMO.

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Don't follow Black Clover so GG.

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@wot_m8: you should it’s very good

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People overrating hachimaru now.

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I am going to go ahead and bump this

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@f3m1: have not kept up with samurai 8 any new feats

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did that Samurai 8 manga get any better? read the 1st couple of chapters and it sucked compared to Naruto. wasn't big on the art either. but how is it now relative to Naruto?

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@icemanbobbydrak: Try reading it without comparing it to Naruto because it's not Naruto. Also, read the official release, the translation and the art is just better on the official version.

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probably like... chapter 2? maybe 3? the 1st chapter was OK, thought it had potential. then the 2nd one, i couldn't even really tell what was going on. don't remember chapter 3, so maybe i never read it.

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Round one Hachimaru wins, if he has Ann then it becomes a mismatch.

Round two depends on if you accept "LS" Black Clover or not... I don't so I back Hachimaru still. Especially since Asta can't overcome that regen. If we accept LS Black Clover then Asta blitzes but still not sure if he can put Hachimaru down or not.

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@joshua755: Hachimaru, with the help of Daruma and Ann, does something kinda crazy in chapter sixteen you can check it out on

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#18  Edited By f3m1

@wot_m8: it also depends on how you interpret Hachimaru dodging some of Ata's attacks. Though Ata was already weekend.

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@icemanbobbydrak: it gets way better and some chapters like 27 to 28 are pretty hype. These are some comments to give you an idea. I tried to avoid as much spoilers as possible.

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#20  Edited By Wot_m8

@f3m1: True enough that but Hachimaru still does have his own feats that still put him in HS levels. That would be a snail pace if you consider Asta LS though... I really don't.

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@wot_m8: I agree. Hachimaru will definitely get some speed feats later.

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@f3m1: but I wonder if this will be a gap since we still don’t know what Asta can really do after his time skip training I mean we don’t know if got faster stronger etc

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@joshua755: From the little I know about Black Clover; Hachimaru definitely has the AP/DC advantage along with regeneration while Asta has speed and some kind of hax ability from his sword?

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@f3m1: yea but there has been a 6 month time skip we’re Asta was just training big time we know he can fly now and they said he got 10 to 20 times stronger and he can call his weapons back like a Jedi and he took out some fodder and that’s all We got for right now in the next chapter he is about to unleash his demon form which from what it seems like is on another level

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@f3m1: here what asta Can do now till we see more Sunday chapter I am not saying he wins but this is far from being one r

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@joshua755:

My post above contains spoilers for chapter 16.

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@joshua755: ahh bruh Trinity hachi had a large star level feat..........

He completely destroyed the muun to subatomic levels and used the heavy atmosphere on a large scale overcoming the planet's GBE and with all this energy together makes Hachi's muun rekt a large star level feat(with Trinity tho)

So Now what will you say.

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@f3m1: read my post above and just know that it's not just a moon level feat not at all.

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@haxxxz:

Okay. I'm aware that if you attempt to quantify that feat using calcs, you will arrive at something way higher than moon busting because it is above that. Even Vs battle wiki has it at large planet level or something. Note that I never once mentioned the level of the attack in my previous posts. I only posted scans. Let's not start calling Hachimaru star level just yet.

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@f3m1: Off course we can't say star level hachi, because it's not his normal AP and it's only via that one attack which has large star level potency nothing else from hachi comes near to that .

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@f3m1: thank you for that

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Round 1 Hachi take it easily especially with Ann.

Round 2 Asta blitz, although Hachi regen is still a thing.

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Round 1 - Even with Ann it's really hard to say.
Current Asta in his demon form was able to slash an entire castle-town in half. While this is certainly above what Hachimaru can do, but it's still useless against hachi as he is a regen freak and cutting him is simply not going to defeat him. He is the guy who chops his own head off to win.
While I also don't think that Asta has cutting durability feats to suggest he can tank slashes from hachimaru. I could be forgetting some feats, would be glad if someone could provide them.
So I think this match Hachimaru would win because of regen and lack of cutting durability feats for Asta.

Round 2 - Utter spite in favour of Asta. Hachi is hypersonic but that's basically statue for someone like Asta. He takes it easily.

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Asta can't kill Hachi.

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Asta can one shot without slicing Hachimaru

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Hachimaru stomps

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Isn't Hachimaru building buster?

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@epsilonr: sorta, depends how you wanna scale him. with the help of ann he cut right through commander sen's soul blade and he's comparable to ryu who could pressure daruma. he also supplied a lot of the power for a moon busting atmos fang and could hold his own against weakened ata.

his individual feats(cutting through a giant tank, cutting a giant robot in half) are around building large lvl but he's likely far stronger than that.

his speed is also hard to pin down, he's casually hypersonic but daruma was surprised by hachi blitzing a dude before he had a chance.

TLDR: hachi's building lvl and hypersonic by feats but is implied to be way stronger and is likely relativistic.

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@manimalman: so should we take his individual feats as fact till we he get betters ones

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@epsilonr: @manimalman: @joshua755: It was heavily implied that he supplied the entire power for moon busting since Daruma literally stated he was in no state to do it himself.

So, he likely has that much power but hasn't had a real chance to show off... since the only two villains so far have been casual Planet busters and just so far out of his range.

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@wot_m8: Damn so this comes down to if we believe Asta can blitz and harm him for a ko

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@joshua755: I don't know much about Black Clover. Asta can probably blitz if what I have heard of him is right but can he overcome Hachimaru's regen? It's molecular in nature... I guess if Asta takes Hachimaru's head off he can incapacitate him long enough for it be considered a victory... though I don't know if that is in character or not.