Assassin vs Raiden

Assassin (Composite Fate & Unlimited Blade Works )

VS

Raiden (MGR)

In character

Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death

Random encounter

Standard gear and abilities

Fight takes place in an uninhabited city setting at night

Who'd win? For what reasons?

Callouts:

Penny for your thoughts on this battle?

Raiden has better feats

Assassin is more skilled considering he's a wuxia character who can achieve spatial refraction with pure skill. He has experience fighting physically superior opponents so he knows to parry rather than block, unless he's at the end of his time limit like his second fight with Saber, there's no reason he'll get his sword cut through. Assuming Raiden can be put down by getting stabbed in the head he wins.

If Assassin goes full weeb skill ala his fight against Musashi he'd probably take it.

Raiden wins.

Raiden is superior in every single aspect and is a lot faster. He stomps this and needs a stronger opponent.

Raiden 6/10

Is this by any chance in the anime?

I lean toward Kojirou.

Assassin for sure

@hey_thatsmildlyadequate: You know we still haven't concluded our last argument with Lancer vs Raiden thread which you left prematurely after I showed you his massively hypersonic feats that come off 10x faster than mach 11. Isn't Assassin inferior to Lancer btw?

Shimousa chapter in Grand Order.

@sy8000: thx, haven't gotten into grand order yet.

@red_ruby_petal: No, in Fate/Grand Order, the game. It's from Epic of Remnant 3: Shimosa.

He lost, but you have to bear in mind that Musashi's among the most hax swordsman in fiction. She has an ability that makes her straight up untouchable, has a mystic eye that makes her literally always succeed at any cut she attempts to the point that time and space bend to allow it (the same sword skill that straight up pushes her into different dimensions at random because skill I guess), and has a noble phantasm that basically turns her into a war god and cuts through fate itself, because she's so good at cutting stuff that it just sort of happened, yet Sasaki fought her for what would have been eternity with a shitty sword and no particular abilities.

@just_banter:

He lost, but you have to bear in mind that Musashi's among the most hax swordsman in fiction. She has an ability that makes her straight up untouchable, has a mystic eye that makes her literally always succeed at any cut she attempts to the point that time and space bend to allow it (the same sword skill that straight up pushes her into different dimensions at random because skill I guess), and has a noble phantasm that basically turns her into a war god and cuts through fate itself, because she's so good at cutting stuff that it just sort of happened, yet Sasaki fought her for what would have been eternity with a shitty sword and no particular abilities.

I find it hard to argue against hyperbolic statements such as, swing so fast space and time continuum alter or cutting fate itself stuff and this isn't the first time I came across that kind of stuff in Fate. Well it is consistent that skill has been a big part of him since his fight against Saber reflect that, but then thats just borderline ridiculous and I am not sure where to quantify that.

@red_ruby_petal: It's ridiculous because she's Musashi. She's the best pure swordsman in the series.

And it isn't swinging fast enough for space to bend, when she focuses on cutting a specific body part her cuts are so perfect that they bend space and time to allow the part to get cut. Musashi's stupidly skilled to the extent that you have to really search to find someone in fiction that can match up to the crazy shit she pulls off, but she is hindered by being a mobile game character so all her feats are either from her mats or from text during cutscenes.

@just_banter:

And they all sound ridiculously hyperbolic. You could infer that as lightspeed, beyond lightspeed, space time breaking, etc. And that just makes Assassin's skill impossible physically ( even in a fictional standpoint if you get what I mean ).