I mean, everybody here thinks that Juggernaut or Hulk are incredibly powerful.However, this characters can't fly, so, wouldn't they be in a massive disadvantage?.It would be easy to BFR them or to destroy the battlefield and they couldn't do nothing because thay can't FLY.
Are the characters that can't fly overrated?
I guess I doesn’t hurt them that much because most of the flier they fight (e.g. Thor Andy Superman) are primarily melee fighters and so they don’t dont ally abuse them over rated range advantage.
@doomsguy: Darkseid can leviatate.
@mister_surreal: Don't you think Superman, for example, can easily BFR Hulk or even Thanos?
If you can fly no one can BFR you just by throwing a punch.
@doomsguy: Thanos would kill Superman...
@mister_surreal: Well I doubt that, but I respect your opinion because Thanos is in my opinion far more impressive than Superman and it's insanely powerful.
Although, applying logic and using common sense Superman should win, but I would like to know why you disagree.
Most characters who can't fly get over that disadvantage by jumping like hulk aquaman saitama ect so it's hardly an issue 4 them
@doomsguy: Thanos isn’t getting BFRd. He has force fields and telepahy to use.
@mister_surreal: So as he has force fields he can't be BFRd.You haven't convince me, but that's ok.
Telepathy doesn't do much here.
@doomsguy: Telepathy mind wipes and force-fields would prevent Superman from moving him. He can also teleport. I’m sorry but I don’t think you know how powerful Darkseid and Thanos are.
@mister_surreal: Sorry but could you tell me what do you mean with wipes?
@apex_pretador: Darkseid has beaten Superman more than once.
For example there is a scan of Darkseid beating EASILY Super.
@doomsguy: Any others?
@blackpantherisb: Darkseid can just LEVITATE.And I have only seen 1 scan of Thanos supposedly flying.
However, this is not about Thanos or Darkseid.Take Juggernaut or Hulk, for example.
Here he would have destroyed super if it wasn't for the JL help
Darkseid has superseed and can fly/levitate at fast speed so Superman can't overpower him with speed easily. I do get what you are saying though, characters like Mongul is a high tier brick who can give Superman issues despite the fact Mongul gets destroyed by characters like Flash and Light ray due to lack of maneuverability.
@doomsguy: That's new 52. That's legit him overpowering superman, but not beating him.
@doomsguy: also, you should edit the op to word it better. Both can fly and teleport. I think what you're asking is if there's anything doomsday or juggernaut can do about getting thrown to mars or something like that
I mean, everybody here thinks that Juggernaut or Hulk are incredibly powerful.However, this characters can't fly, so, wouldn't they be in a massive disadvantage?.It would be easy to BFR them or to destroy the battlefield and they couldn't do nothing because thay can't FLY.
Ironic question, given the character in your avatar.
A guy that can't fly, yet is by far the most powerful character in his universe.
But to answer your question it's actually the other way around. Flying certainly has it's advantages but it's almost always meaningless in the comics and even in the battle forums. Hulk and Juggernaut specifically have walked all over some of the flying characters from the comics, in fact over entire teams of them. And flying is generally useless in a fight outside of trying to fly someone for a BFR, which is a way more dangerous form of BFR then just trying to punch someone a long distance for a BFR, because take Gladiator and Hulk as an example, when Gladiator tried to fly Hulk into space he got his head thunderclapped.
So you didn't exactly discover warm water, guys like Hulk and Juggernaut would be mostly helpless if you BFR them, but a lot of people don't consider that a real win since it doesn't tell you who is more powerful or who can put who down with their own power, so it's usually restricted in the forums.
@intothevoid: to me bfr is cheapest way to win a fight
@intothevoid: also op can say the same thing for doomsday too lol
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