Archie Sonic vs Wally West Flash

In case you don't know, this is the next death battle.
What do you think?

Any opinion?

Fans will be Fast to get Furious.

Not this again

Spite turns out like below

Nice animation to be honest

This battle has been debated to death on this website. The only difference with the Death Battle is that they'll do an even worse job.

I support repeated battles as long as they have effort behind them and haven't been beaten to the ground. You didn't even include any details, which is just atrocious.

The result is some serious BS

Flash won because he killed sonic with the infinite mass punch by going back in time to kill sonic before he went super.

Heres the thing Wally should’ve never survived the first punch from Super Sonic, DB even said that Wally couldnt beat super forms.

Whats even more annoying is they skipped over scaling, they mention mogul destroyer of a million multiverses who super sonic scales above and the chaos force scales higher but assume Wally will beat higher dimensional plot protection that’d some BS.

Running back in time to kill sonic in the past won’t kill him in the future he has game feats according to the Archie sonic guidebook including the time he beat time eater who erased most of the timeline and yet sonic was still alive despite most of time being erased once.

He also has game feats from Solaris who erased all of time excpet super sonic he by all means should not have been affected Sonic in based is 4D and well above in his super forms.

Nevermind cosmic awareness, or the fact I think SoNic would remember Wally going back in time and DB stated Super forms are faster so by all reasoning SoNic should have known were and when he was.

Overall I’m salty but not that salty, I’m at least happy they acknowledged Wally stood no chance in Super forms.

I almost forgot this site was a thing. How are you guys?

Sonic

that was a dumb video

I like Death Battle, I think for the most part Animations are pretty well done and you can tell they at least care. I just wish they address things like the Animations and such not being always representative of their conclusions and other things people constantly complain about in a Video outside of their Hour+ long Podcast.

wally via speedsteal imp

@firstmanofsteel: Archie sonic is hilariously overhyped. All these 4D 5D 6D scalings is just a way for fans to ignore his lack of feats and wank him. All of his so called "multiversal" and "universal" feats are bunk and misinterpreted by readers.

@omniverseman98: let me guess, you read the archie sonic "debunk" on reddit didn't you

Didn't this Sonic explode a universe by clashing with Knuckles, or was it a dimension (or something else)?

Archie Sonic stomps the second he turns Super. Don't take Death Battle seriously, please.

@firstmanofsteel: here's the thing. Sonic wouldnt be able to even go super sonic before wally imps his head off. As far as whether or not wally would be able to harm him in that form ill say this. Superman has better durability feats than super sonic and even he would go down to a few hundred of wallys imps. Ive read through most of the archie sonics "CrAzY" feats and all of them are bunk and misinterpretations. I wouldn't put him at a universal tier in power.

That MBatz alt is banned so no point tagging it.

Archie sonic wins. That death battle was wrong and biased as hell. Animation rewind proved sonic wins.

Sonic blinks.

So Sonic's Speed control vs Wally's Chao Force.

I'm siding with Wally.

Archie sonic >>> wally

This was one of those where death battle was biased. Archie wins

Flash stomps

Archie

Archie Sonic is overrated trash and so is Flash.

Both are overrated as shit but Sonic stomps from the versions pictured I guess.

I'd side with sonic

I don't know all of Flash's feats from the this version of him

but some of Archie Sonic's feats are:
-Destroying a universe when clashing with Knuckles, and it was a far weaker version of him
-Can move so fast that he can "move while time is stopped" in base form
-Is somehow faster than that i just mentioned in Super/Ultra forms, supposedly Infinite/Immeasurable speed
-Could overpower Enerjak, who can overpower Mogul who could destroy millions of universes with his palm
-Immune to hax/reality erasure, he was brought back after being erased from reality by the Ultimate Annihilator
-Can control fate, he always won in the end because of that
-Can wish anything into reality, which is how he recreated the multiverse in the super genesis wave
-Can control the concepts of the universe, like how he removed Chaos Force and Illumina from the new multiverse, meaning he removed the dreams dimension and the chaos magic/powers of literally everyone in the verse and made them exclusive to the chaos emeralds

Wally is 6-D while Archie super sonic is 11D. Archie super sonic wins

@lightvelox:

1 - he never destroyed a universe, or anything even remotely close to this. It required Super Sonic and Hyper Knuckles combined, to destroy a zone, which doesn’t give a good size of it, but was likely about the size of a few city blocks at best, based on the art.

2 - He was not in base form when time was stopped. He was SonicMan in his robotized form.

3 - His speed is inconsistent in super form, because chaos makes him as powerful as necessary, but it’s not unlimited. Immeasurable doesn’t mean much for a character who rarely is the speed of sound.

4 - Sonic never used universal power to beat Enerjak or Mogul. He’s used mid tier feats against them.

5 - He is definitely not immune to hax / reality manipulation. He’s had his entire body altered when reality shifted, down to his molecules.

6 - He can’t just “control fate” on a whim. There are literally thousands of instances where Sonic would have done that if he was capable of, but didn’t.

7 - Same thing I said about “controlling fate” applies to “wishing”

8 - he can’t control the concepts of the universe. He is 100% at the mercy of cosmic power. Like I said, his entire body was rebooted when his universe was.

Ultra sonic also wins via author hax and toon force. He can simply say no to the speedforce

@manofmanynames2: he does stomp when he turns super

sonic

@lovetiemainiac: yea

@takenstew22: This

Archie Sonic is one of the strongest characters in Fiction!

He should win with low diff tbh if only high ends are being used here

@sp4ce: exactly dude. Animationrewind proved this

@trueblieee: yessirr

Proof?

@superprimetime: exactly

Sonic slaughters wally the second he goes super

@superprimetime: There’s a lot of obvious problems with all of that, which anyone who read the comics will easily see. I only have a few minutes, and am not going to point out the obvious flaws, like reboots somehow being a reflection of Sonic’s powers…

Here’s the big thing though, your entire argument, is based on scaling. Why would you ever need to scale Sonic? He’s the title character. He has more feats then any other character in his series by a massive amount? Why wouldn’t you base your opinion off of his feats? Is it because all of his thousands of feats are all mid tier, and you want Sonic to be more powerful?

lmfao that low energy "no u" rebuttal.

OT: sonic stomps the shit out of him

@superprimetime: perfect post man. anyone trying to handwave your entire post under canon needs to gtfo as WoG states everything is canon for sonic property.