I think team 2. But I will wait for Delein's opinion.
Off-topic but Ichbei is dangerous in team battles as he can infinitely be brought back just by having his name spoken.
first of all, here you have my RT on Arba, I'll give you my thoughts on the battle (team 1 wins imo):
Things that won't work on team 1:
1) KS is useless on Arba due to her acausality and her borg, it also won't work on on Chaos due to her nature as an Angeloid.
2) Soul crush/soul manip is useless on both due to (again) Arba's acausality (the argument is in the Black Rukh section of the RT, basically she is outside of the circle of causality and fate of the Magi world, Sinbad rewrote the Rukh and she was unfazed. Rukh which is a higher concept which controls mind, soul, fate and all actions of people, rewriting the entirety of humanity). Chaos doesn't have a soul.
3) Ichimonji's conceptual manipulation won't work on Arba's true self due to her immortality type 9, she sends only part of her spirit into the world while her true self is in a dimension only her can access. So even if Ichibei managed to tag Arba's "avatar" with it, it won't power nul the real body.
how is team 1 going to win:
1) energy equalized means that Arba as a Magi can absorb istantly all the Reishi/magoi from the two Shinigami like this:
(she can manipulate both black and regular rukh as a fallen Magi), depending on how you interpretate the rule of "energy equalized" if Reishi works as magoi, when someone loses all of their magoi/rukh they istantly die, their soul goes back to the rukh and they get power nulled. She has also an infinite amount of it as a Magi.
2) By using her black rukh she can also corrupt both Ichibei and Aizen, if they accept the black rukh they become fallen and they fall under Arba's control else the black rukh kills them almost istantly. She can use it also to directly mind manipulate them (I know that Aizen has resistance to it, my argument is general for the team). Or she can use it to change the outcome of the battle as shown in the relative Black Rukh section. Chaos has also mind manipulation.
3) depending on how you argue Bleach's dimensional travelling both Arba and Chaos can dimensional dump the duo, some (Gremmy and Sonic for istance) argue that Shinigami and the likes can only travel between dimension related to Soul Society. Arba could both dump them into another casual dimension or into a dimension that only her and a few others can access (not the dimension where her true self exists), the dimension of Althamen.
4) Chaos depending on how you argue the verse is either around planetary or well above that (I'm for the former AP meta, KAsya and others argue the latter) and at least ftl so she can keep oneshotting Ichibei if he isn't already been either haxxed down by Arba or under her control.
5) Aizen's stats are evenly matched by Chaos (and Arba when it comes to speed) so the latter can keep him busy while Arba incapacitaes Ichibei.
6) Ichibei's existence erasure doesn't work on Arba due to borg.
this are a few pointers, addressing all of both teams hax would take time so I only mentioned a couple of things here and there that team 1 has.
I think team 2. But I will wait for Delein's opinion.
Off-topic but Ichbei is dangerous in team battles as he can infinitely be brought back just by having his name spoken.
first of all, here you have my RT on Arba, I'll give you my thoughts on the battle (team 1 wins imo):
Things that won't work on team 1:
1) KS is useless on Arba due to her acausality and her borg, it also won't work on on Chaos due to her nature as an Angeloid.
2) Soul crush/soul manip is useless on both due to (again) Arba's acausality (the argument is in the Black Rukh section of the RT, basically she is outside of the circle of causality and fate of the Magi world, Sinbad rewrote the Rukh and she was unfazed. Rukh which is a higher concept which controls mind, soul, fate and all actions of people, rewriting the entirety of humanity). Chaos doesn't have a soul.
3) Ichimonji's conceptual manipulation won't work on Arba's true self due to her immortality type 9, she sends only part of her spirit into the world while her true self is in a dimension only her can access. So even if Ichibei managed to tag Arba's "avatar" with it, it won't power nul the real body.
how is team 1 going to win:
1) energy equalized means that Arba as a Magi can absorb istantly all the Reishi/magoi from the two Shinigami like this:
(she can manipulate both black and regular rukh as a fallen Magi), depending on how you interpretate the rule of "energy equalized" if Reishi works as magoi, when someone loses all of their magoi/rukh they istantly die, their soul goes back to the rukh and they get power nulled. She has also an infinite amount of it as a Magi.
2) By using her black rukh she can also corrupt both Ichibei and Aizen, if they accept the black rukh they become fallen and they fall under Arba's control else the black rukh kills them almost istantly. She can use it also to directly mind manipulate them (I know that Aizen has resistance to it, my argument is general for the team). Or she can use it to change the outcome of the battle as shown in the relative Black Rukh section. Chaos has also mind manipulation.
3) depending on how you argue Bleach's dimensional travelling both Arba and Chaos can dimensional dump the duo, some (Gremmy and Sonic for istance) argue that Shinigami and the likes can only travel between dimension related to Soul Society. Arba could both dump them into another casual dimension or into a dimension that only her and a few others can access (not the dimension where her true self exists), the dimension of Althamen.
4) Chaos depending on how you argue the verse is either around planetary or well above that (I'm for the former AP meta, KAsya and others argue the latter) and at least ftl so she can keep oneshotting Ichibei if he isn't already been either haxxed down by Arba or under her control.
5) Aizen's stats are evenly matched by Chaos (and Arba when it comes to speed) so the latter can keep him busy while Arba incapacitaes Ichibei.
6) Ichibei's existence erasure doesn't work on Arba due to borg.
this are a few pointers, addressing all of both teams hax would take time so I only mentioned a couple of things here and there that team 1 has.
Adding on to this
Chaos herself can lifeforce drain her opponents. She can absorb their abilities and memories. This means if she tags anyone here with her wings she is already skilled at using that person's power due to energy being equal. She also steals that person's physicals too.
Ichibei isn't the only one that can power null. Chaos having superior hacking to Nymph (as chaos ate her melan clone) can just manipulate their brains and seal their powers.
She can also just strip them of their powers and stats.
KS is useless as Chaos blocked Hacking/TP like it was nothing. Chaos' Anti Perception Medusa is already comparable if not better in my opinion to KS.
She also stole Nymph's P-stealth abilities that disperse your body. That makes her exist as some kind of energy/astral form. She can still use her physical and energy abilities. Right to Left
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Here is Chaos doing it
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This ability also erases your presence
Existence Erasure is not working on Chaos either. In fact, the transport card resetting and destroying the old reality is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything in Bleach. Ikaros with her powers sealed with immune to that plot-level manipulation.
@theemperor95: I'm sure you can provide feats comparable to destroying a country sized object from a distance greater than the distance between the earth and the moon.
If one more person says that Ichibei is a bleach god tier, I will burn comicvine to the ground.
Only Yhwach,Prime soul king,Ichigo and Aizen are God tiers in bleach yes. However people consider ichibei god tier because excluding the above mentioned 4, Ichibei is simply the closest person to being a God tier in Bleach.
I read Judas and Plunderer, from the same creator of Sora no Otoshimono...but i have yet to read SnO.
Arba, on the other hand, is enough to humiliate the shinigami.
I heard Plunderer is good.
Judas takes place in the same setting (Earth) as SnO. Angeloids come from the dimension that created all of reality. So all of the country to planet-level feats in Judas are fodder to angeloids.
Zero is a recurring character and even is best friends with now of the main characters Mikako Satsukitane
I think her speed in EOS is very impressive. She has shown to easily be FTL+ to MFTL speed
I think her holding the power that is able to destroy Synapse technological might, Synapse itself (which could mean its landmass or the dimension itself is a universe), and destroy Earth.
Idk whether the Synapse Part meant the dimension itself which is a universe Butttt let us just say the landmass. It took EOS Nymph, who is at least light speed at least 2 chapters to fly through Synapse islands for the one Zeus canon was on. She was going full speed.
As soon as you enter the portal you're right on the landmass of Synapse. This means Synapse landmass alone is massively bigger than Earth.
@imaginaryidjit: ichibei was straight up bullying yhwach and tossing him around continent sized distances. He'd do the same to aizen or just turn him into an ant. AOE is nice but it doesn't help him
I think team 2. But I will wait for Delein's opinion.
Off-topic but Ichbei is dangerous in team battles as he can infinitely be brought back just by having his name spoken.
first of all, here you have my RT on Arba, I'll give you my thoughts on the battle (team 1 wins imo):
Things that won't work on team 1:
1) KS is useless on Arba due to her acausality and her borg, it also won't work on on Chaos due to her nature as an Angeloid.
2) Soul crush/soul manip is useless on both due to (again) Arba's acausality (the argument is in the Black Rukh section of the RT, basically she is outside of the circle of causality and fate of the Magi world, Sinbad rewrote the Rukh and she was unfazed. Rukh which is a higher concept which controls mind, soul, fate and all actions of people, rewriting the entirety of humanity). Chaos doesn't have a soul.
3) Ichimonji's conceptual manipulation won't work on Arba's true self due to her immortality type 9, she sends only part of her spirit into the world while her true self is in a dimension only her can access. So even if Ichibei managed to tag Arba's "avatar" with it, it won't power nul the real body.
how is team 1 going to win:
1) energy equalized means that Arba as a Magi can absorb istantly all the Reishi/magoi from the two Shinigami like this:
(she can manipulate both black and regular rukh as a fallen Magi), depending on how you interpretate the rule of "energy equalized" if Reishi works as magoi, when someone loses all of their magoi/rukh they istantly die, their soul goes back to the rukh and they get power nulled. She has also an infinite amount of it as a Magi.
2) By using her black rukh she can also corrupt both Ichibei and Aizen, if they accept the black rukh they become fallen and they fall under Arba's control else the black rukh kills them almost istantly. She can use it also to directly mind manipulate them (I know that Aizen has resistance to it, my argument is general for the team). Or she can use it to change the outcome of the battle as shown in the relative Black Rukh section. Chaos has also mind manipulation.
3) depending on how you argue Bleach's dimensional travelling both Arba and Chaos can dimensional dump the duo, some (Gremmy and Sonic for istance) argue that Shinigami and the likes can only travel between dimension related to Soul Society. Arba could both dump them into another casual dimension or into a dimension that only her and a few others can access (not the dimension where her true self exists), the dimension of Althamen.
4) Chaos depending on how you argue the verse is either around planetary or well above that (I'm for the former AP meta, KAsya and others argue the latter) and at least ftl so she can keep oneshotting Ichibei if he isn't already been either haxxed down by Arba or under her control.
5) Aizen's stats are evenly matched by Chaos (and Arba when it comes to speed) so the latter can keep him busy while Arba incapacitaes Ichibei.
6) Ichibei's existence erasure doesn't work on Arba due to borg.
this are a few pointers, addressing all of both teams hax would take time so I only mentioned a couple of things here and there that team 1 has.
Team 2, STILL not seeing how Arba will get past Aizen or the hax of Ichibei, all the statements and scans provided are not applicable since there's always been things similar in Bleach too.
Team 2, STILL not seeing how Arba will get past Aizen or the hax of Ichibei, all the statements and scans provided are not applicable since there's always been things similar in Bleach too.
@laufnyr: from what ive seen area seems really busted but quick question can you please enlighten me on how such an op character was defeated if she was at all since I haven't watched or read magi
@laufnyr: from what ive seen area seems really busted but quick question can you please enlighten me on how such an op character was defeated if she was at all since I haven't watched or read magi
she got stopped by aladdin who used vector manip and law manip (he can change the laws of the world with a finger) and then got transmutated on the molecular level by alchemic magic, dissolving the binding between her true form in her own dimension and her host. She didnt die, she simply went back to her own dimension, so it was a temporary win.
@laufnyr: okay I see that actually makes sense since killing her isn't an option but does that mean that characters with high level transmutation hax can pull a win albeit temporary against her in battle
Team 2, STILL not seeing how Arba will get past Aizen or the hax of Ichibei, all the statements and scans provided are not applicable since there's always been things similar in Bleach too.
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