Apocalypse vs Wonder Women

• 616 Apocalypse
• 2 Wonder Women
• Post-Crisis Wonder Woman
• New-52 Wonder Woman
• All have standard gear(No lasso though)
• Apocalypse is pissed off at WW because she is more pretty than he is and wants to kill her.
• Basic Knowledge
• They start 80 meters appart
• Win by Death
• Battle takes place on Namek

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Apocolypse stomps, in Before he's a statue

@_kingoflatveria: Post-Crisis and N52, not DCEU.

The first picture looks like an anime girl, the second looks like a pornstar.

OT: Probably Wonder Woman assuming their swords can cut him (Jarnborn did but it was specifically enhanced for that purpose)

@death2heretics: I'm aware, I still don't find this fair. Ignoring the fact that they literally can't kill Apocolypse.

@_kingoflatveria: I was joking lol.

DCEU WW would insta-blitz Apocalypse and cut him with the infinite sharp sword.

DCEU Wonder Woman solos with her speedblitzes, acct. she would solo Apocolypse and her other versions with her sleedblitz power

look at this mftl combat speed combined with this mftl travel speed

combined with this NLF Atom cutting sword that can obviously cut celestial armor because it cut a guy who can absorbed a nuke

Apocalypse as neither Wonder Women have the means to harm him.

Apocalypse.

Apocalypse

Diana.

@empressofdread: How?

@ecoblitz: Like I have already done this before. Wonder Woman is makes a statue out of Apocalypse and speedblitzes with the atom cutting sword.

@empressofdread: yes, I forgot. She also solos the celestial race with her atom cutting sword

@ecoblitz: Apocolypse is a Celestial ?

@empressofdread: His armour is celestial technology

Then why on earth are you saying She Solos the celestial race ? Is Apoc belonging to that race ? lol.

Jarnbjorn with less sharpness on the edge was able to pierce his armor. Also his head is not covered with that armor. Jan Thor was smacking his face around easily.

@empressofdread:

Because iirc it’s the same as the armour they put on.

Less sharpeness? Lol jarnbjorn is specifically enchanted to cut through celestial/cestail armour. The apocalypse twins used the axe to kill a celestial so jarnbjorn cutting it isn’t a bad feat for Apoc lol.

@ecoblitz:

Because iirc it’s the same as the armour they put on.

Yeah but feats say otherwise.

Less sharpeness? Lol jarnbjorn is specifically enchanted to cut through celestial/cestail armour. The apocalypse twins used the axe to kill a celestial so jarnbjorn cutting it isn’t a bad feat for Apoc lol.

Then tell me how sharp are they? What is the sharpness of their edge. No, clearly Wonder Womans sword was used to cut an atom on panel unless you have feats for Jarnborn cutting something as smaller then you have a point here otherwise not.

Also "specifically designed" is not a feat cutting is a feat. Is it cutting something as small as the atom ?

You did not even tell me how his face or head is not going to get cut off. His armor is not covering his neck. Show me the neck feats. Apoc is very very slow compared to Wonder Woman once she starts using her sword, game over.

@empressofdread: Feats have jarnbjorn cutting through both celestials and apocalypse so I don’t know what you’re saying.

Lol nice deflection there. You said Wonder Woman should cut apocalypse because a less sharp jarnbjorn cut him. I’m merely correcting you saying jarnbjorn was specifically enchanted to cut celestials/celestial tech which it has done more than once so your reason for her cutting him is voided.

@ecoblitz:

Feats have jarnbjorn cutting through both celestials and apocalypse so I don’t know what you’re saying.

Yeah I asked for feats implying sharpness of the edge of the blade. You say you don't know what you are saying but I think I made myself pretty clear. Wonder Womans sword packs a blade capable of cutting atoms something much sharper it is going though the Armor just fine, just as jarnbjorn went.

Lol nice deflection there. You said Wonder Woman should cut apocalypse because a less sharp jarnbjorn cut him. I’m merely correcting you saying jarnbjorn was specifically enchanted to cut celestials/celestial tech which it has done more than once so your reason for her cutting him is voided.

I do not see what you are at here.

I said "Specifically enchanted is not a feat for sharpness" which means it can cut the armor because you said it is "specifically" enchanted. I asked for feats statements showing the sharpness and you reverted with the same fact that jarnbjorn cuts his armor. Which I already told. lol.

Like I said unless you have a feat stating or better yet showing on panel to go through something even more fine as in case of Apocolypse Its valid.

Also I would like to point out Wonder Woman still cuts his head off. Or speeblitzes him and KOs him. He is just that slow compared to Wonder Woman.

@empressofdread: So Wonder Woman is going to be killing celestials now with her sword? Good to know mate.

Smh again acting like you can’t see the point.

You>Because Jarnbjorn is less sharp(something you assumed) and it cut through apocalypse wonder woman’s sword which is sharper will.

Me>The Axe cut through it because thats what it was enchanted to do, cut through that kind of metal/material.

You>Wonder Woman sword is sharper so it still cuts through it since a less sharp ace cut through it.

Me>The Axe only cut through it because it was specifically enchanted to do so.

You>Repeats the same thing without understanding anything.

That’s basically what’s happened so far. I’m not arguing or debating who would win I was merely showing you your reasoning of why she can cut his armour is wrong simple.

@ecoblitz:

So Wonder Woman is going to be killing celestials now with her sword? Good to know mate.

When did I say that? Celestials can one shot her. Is Apocolypse Celestial level now lol? Really now ? He is put with the likes of Superman and people give superman a vast majority. Really now? Celestial level.

Good to know. Good to know.....!!!

Smh again acting like you can’t see the point.

Lol how?

You>Because Jarnbjorn is less sharp(something you assumed) and it cut through apocalypse wonder woman’s sword which is sharper will.

I asked you how is Jarnbjorn is sharper, has it any feats for cutting something as sharp as the atom? I asked you, you have not given me such feats yet.

Me>The Axe cut through it because thats what it was enchanted to do, cut through that kind of metal/material.

You>Wonder Woman sword is sharper so it still cuts through it since a less sharp ace cut through it.

Me>The Axe only cut through it because it was specifically enchanted to do so.

So basically you are repeating your self without providing the feats to counter my argument.

You>Repeats the same thing without understanding anything.

That’s basically what’s happened so far. I’m not arguing or debating who would win I was merely showing you your reasoning of why she can cut his armour is wrong simple.

Oh I understand everything. I asked you for feats to see what kind of piercing durability the armor is packing. Axes cuts it specifically like you said so not relevant. Show me it resisting something as sharp as to cut the atoms ? show me, give me the feats but you do not have any so we have to go in circles.

Great no limits fallacy there buddy, so it is going to tank something which is sharp enough on the edges to cut atoms. Even though it has not before.

I was merely showing you your reasoning of why she can cut his armour is wrong simple.

No dude you are clearly trying to imply that Apoc is celestial level. I never said WW defeats a celestial. His armor is great, and celestials can one shot Wonder Woman but I asked you for feats for their piercing durability but you have not provided any till now.

I’m not arguing or debating who would win

Good.

@empressofdread: Jarnbjorn is enchanted to cut celestials/celestial tech, that’s what it does. Which is why it cut through apocalypse, he is putting on celestial technology. Hence why it can cut through him like butter.

The entire basis of your Wonder Woman can cut him nonsense is because jarnbjorn cut him when it’s enchsnted to do that.

Before the enchantment Jarnbjorn couldn’t even harm celestials, after the enchantment people Wonder Woman would stomp can kill A celestial with it.

Your argument is Jarnbjorn is less sharp so it will cut him when it’s job is to cut what it’s putting on.

Example.

X has the ability to always be able to lift a planet, it’s his ability, to lift planets, he can’t lift planes, he can’t lift islands, he has complete normal human physical stats outside of lifting planets Y is physically stronger than X but doesn’t have the power to lift planets so Y can lift things heavier than planets.

This is basically your argument.

@ecoblitz:

Jarnbjorn is enchanted to cut celestials/celestial tech, that’s what it does. Which is why it cut through apocalypse, he is putting on celestial technology. Hence why it can cut through him like butter.

Agreed since its specifically enchanted it should not be used for comparison to test the piercing durability. Because by your own word its specifically enchanted.

The entire basis of your Wonder Woman can cut him nonsense is because jarnbjorn cut him when it’s enchsnted to do that.

Alright now I actually see what you mean there. Sorry my bad.

Before the enchantment Jarnbjorn couldn’t even harm celestials, after the enchantment people Wonder Woman would stomp can kill A celestial with it.

Your argument is Jarnbjorn is less sharp so it will cut him when it’s job is to cut what it’s putting on.

Oh I figured out what you mean. You are basically saying that Jarnbjorn cuts it because its specifically enchanted and not because of its sharpness well ok then but however I am gonna still needs feats for it resisting Wonder Womans blade. Feats are still required because we do not follow NLFs.

X has the ability to always be able to lift a planet, it’s his ability, to lift planets, he can’t lift planes, he can’t lift islands, he has complete normal human physical stats outside of lifting planets Y is physically stronger than X but doesn’t have the power to lift planets so Y can lift things heavier than planets.

This is basically your argument.

I got you now. Thank you. It was my bad.

But If you going to claim it can no sell WW strike then I am gonna still require feats for it resisting something with sharpness to cut atoms. I understand you know though my initial comparison was wrong.

@empressofdread: Never argued apocalypse would win, not even debating his durability, i just wanted to correct you on your reasoning of why Wonder Woman would cut him.

It seems you’ve understood what I was trying to say, so no need to continue a back and forth, have a good one. I’m just here looking for who would make a better argument not to debate who would win. Ja ne ✋??

@ecoblitz: Oh I thank you very much. You brought a new thing to my knowledge than "Jarnbjorn was specifically enchanted", thanks for correcting me I really appreciate it.

@death2heretics: I can’t see them putting him down due to his regen. I’m curious if his telepathy will work. This’ll take awhile...

@evil-incarnate: I thought her sword could help.

@death2heretics: Why are you putting 2 Wonder Woman against 1 apoc. Looks like you are intentionally insulting Wonder Woman here. You know already 1 vs 1 threads are there for Power Girl, Gladidator, Supergirl, Wonder Woman etc. Already debatable. Let alone Superman level beings. Apoc is overrated people think MMH vs Apoc is debatable so what is next 2 MMH vs 1 Apoc. lol.

@empressofdread: Actually, its the opposite. Old threads sure, Apocalypse is overrated. But currently Apocalypse is one of the most lowballed marvel characters. Heck i've seen users call him a Mid-Tier.

I'm sure there are users willing to make a case for Apocalypse or Diana.

No because MMH would stomp Diana.

@death2heretics: I am fine with people making a case with Diana vs Apoc. When already MMH vs Apoc is not getting locked. However I do not see the need to put 2 Wonder Woman against 1 Apoc, when the 1 vs 1 is already debatable.

So basically just because you think that Apoc is lowballed which could be the case but just so that Apoc gets some light you are making 2 WW vs 1 Apoc debatable, is this right?

@empressofdread: I think the rules makes it closer. Plus N52 isn't as powerful as Post-Crisis. BFR isn't allowed, and they don't have lassos, Win by Death, Bloodlusted Apoc etc. I think this is fair.

If you think its unfair, then tell me what should i do to make it more fair.

@empressofdread: Apocalypse has complete control of every molecule in his body. She can slice and dice all she wants she's going to get stomped eventually

@smoothsanta: complete control =/= infinite regeneration. She is going to make him a statue and then blitz his brain out. You need to show his feats for coming back from that.

New 52 WW vs Apoc - debatable. post-crisis WW vs Apoc debatable with WW easily getting majority. BFR is not allowed and they do not have lassos so basically you are nerfing it to make it closer. Intentionally, pretty clear its insulting to WW, since I am damm sure you can make both the threads individually they will still be debatable. However its your thread if it is fair according to your then I have no say in it. But I though someone who thinks WW without lasso and sword with no speedblitz vs WBH is a mismatch, would understand what kind of threads we should not make even if it gets arguments. Even if they are getting arguments. However I gave my two cents. I was just saying.

@empressofdread: I don't see how its insulting for WW lol.

I nerfed it to make it closer, isn't it supossed to be like that? Close battles?

If i make both threads individually it would get locked, because there are Apoc vs WW threads already.

Also, she can speedblitz here, that's why i think its pretty close, both WW can blitz, but can't BFR and Apoc has good regen. So it's a matter of either WW cut him to bits, or Apoc beats them down eventually.

@death2heretics: I know you made the thread why would you feel it's insulting. Like I told you its just my opinion .You can create two Superman vs Apocalypse take away their speed and heat vision make it debatable and you've got a great thread. Voila! Although you already admitted yourself making this thread because apocalypse is lowballed on vine. Maybe you could have created something different rather than to just nerf and put two against 1, it's not creative. I have seen you create great threads that's why I am saying this. This one is pretty basic.

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@empressofdread: He's fast enough to tag Quicksilver and can tank hits from Blackbolt and Cyclops at the same time, and took out a full powered Cable. Her sword will be like cutting through water.

@smoothsanta: tagging quicksilver's a character massively inferior in combat speeds whom wonder woman has made short work out of.

Second feat tanking black bolts he was amped in that scan it's been debunked by Krleavenger.

Apocalypse with little trouble.

Apocalypse stomps. INB4 "Jobberlypse peers reach"

Diana twins should take it (eventually) but not easily one on one would be debatable

Team Diana , Post-Crisis Diana would be MVP.

By the time Apo arrives on the scene, the Wonder Women were already fast enough to get into bondage and domination mode, so one of them ends up tied up before the battle even begins.

Apocalypse wins, I think wonder woman needs at least one other character on her level to beat Apocalypse in a fight

OK wonder woman's wins,2 wonder women are enough for apoc

Probably Apoc.

Apocalypse wins with TP.