Apocalypse & Black Adam VS Count Nefaria & Ares

Team 1 high difficulty.

really cool fight a non jobbing Apocalypse taking on ares would be awesome to see

Why is DC Ares here, he solos.

Accidentally voted for Apokalypse and Black Adam, but Ares would destroy.

@gunchar16: Apocalypse if he uses all of his powers could possibly take him no way does he solo.

Black Adam is fodder and Ares if he uses all his powers is too much for Apocalypse even if he also uses all his powers, Ares solos.

Ares turns into a Promethean Giant and steps on all of them if he is serious.

Team 2 wins easily.

DC Ares? He and the Count wreck shop.

Ares solo

Count Nefaria and Ares stomp them. The latter solos.

Ares solos

@thebuckaronatr: @noone1996: @tifalockhart: @mazahs117: @darth_nimrod: @chiq: @katrurius17: @gunchar16: @comic_book_fan: @dee420: Hasn't Wonder Woman beaten Ares a lot of times despite the obvious fact that she's much weaker than him? Apocalypse and Black Adam are experienced warriors that emerged from ancient Egypt which is comparable to Wonder Woman's Amazon civilization that was a part of Greece from the same historical period so I've paired Ares with the Italian Count Nefaria who's been compared to Thor since the Olympian gods had been adopted by the Romans who are the progenitors of Italy so this great fight is themed as Egypt VS Italy.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/genesis-rhapsodos-final-fantasy-vs-count-nefaria-m-2027311/

Ares solos everyone else in this thread.

+1

@gunchar16: Apocalypse is comparable in physicals what can ares do to beat Apocalypse

@thebuckaronatr: you know Apocalypse can grow too right.

Hax him to death.

Apocalypse can adapt to most forms of attack

@comic_book_fan: @marishtar: @wollfmyth209: @thebuckaronatr: @noone1996: @tifalockhart: @mazahs117: @darth_nimrod: @chiq: @katrurius17: @gunchar16: @comic_book_fan: @dee420: Apocalypse, Black Adam and Count Nefaria are all able to beat Wonder Woman in a one-on-one fight, right? So Ares, who's got beaten by Wonder Woman, is certainly not easily winning this fight, even if it's indeed obvious that he's clearly the most powerful character in this fight, especially when he's got a teammate as awesome as Count Nefaria to watch his back, so in order to prevent this great tag team battle from becoming a mismatch, I'm giving the power of the twelve to Apocalypse and the World War 3 amp of Isis to Black Adam in order to even the balance in this match by significantly buffing both Egyptians against their Greco-Roman opponents.

lol with the the power of the 12 Apocalypse stomps effortlessly he was creating his own universes that had there own galactus and phoenix

@banecapital: Ares was never beaten by Wonder Woman in a legitimately match, and has stomped her several times over.

Also, it's arguable if Apocalypse can actually beat Diana to begin with. Ares solos them all.

@comic_book_fan: As you're seeing, most people are disagreeing with you and specifically state that Ares can easily solo, although they ignore the fact that Count Nefaria is also considered to be quite powerful, so you need to explain yourself. According to the official Marvel database, both Apocalypse and Count Nefaria are among Marvel's biggest villains:

https://www.marvel.com/characters/apocalypse-en-sabah-nur

https://www.marvel.com/characters/count-nefaria

@wollfmyth209: ares would most definately struggle against regular Apocalypse now that this is Apocalypse with the powers of the 12 he would dismiss ares without a 2nd thought or just torture him by creating a universe with no war and trapping him there.

Team 2

@eri123: regular Apocalypse might be able to beat ares but this is Apocalypse with the 12 he has limitless power over time and space he would stomp.

@comic_book_fan: Regular Apocalypse gets one-shotted by Ares.

What has Apoc with the power of the 12 done to suggest he'd beat someone capable of stomping HighFather?

@wollfmyth209: create dozens of his own universes that had there own phoenix and galactus.

and no regular Apocalypse would not be onshotted and aries is not really skyfather level he is the level below just like regular Apocalypse

aoa apocalypse would be the perfect version to fight ares

@comic_book_fan: create dozens of his own universes that had there own phoenix and galactus.

Them having their own Phoenix and Galactus doesn't mean much since we don't know how featless, alternate versions of Galactus and Phoenix stack up against the originals(it's almost always a given that alt-reality versions of a character are weaker).

and no regular Apocalypse would not be onshotted and aries is not really skyfather level he is the level below just like regular Apocalypse

Apocalypse is several leagues beneath Skyfathers, but I never said Ares is "Skyfather level", just that he's capable of stomping HighFather who himself should be Transcendant-tier, i.e. well above Apocalypse.

@wollfmyth209: galactus was eating planets the x-men were similar the 616 versions of the x-men had to struggle with the alternate villians they have feats this version was clearly above skyfathers and ares should never beat highfather under his normal power highfather is usually odin level he would crush ares most of the time.

@comic_book_fan: galactus was eating planets

OK? And? That doesn't mean he's on par with our Galactus, just that he has the same hobbies apparently.

the x-men were similar the 616 versions of the x-men had to struggle with the alternate villians they have feats

Again, you'd need to quantify why I should take any of this seriously.

ares should never beat highfather under his normal power highfather is usually odin level he would crush ares most of the time.

Based on? Your arbitrary ranking of characters is irrelevant to me. The point is: Ares stomped HighFather(it's not like that is his only feat on that level) so he'd stomp Apocalypse.

Ares is pretty damn powerful (if a little unclear when it comes to pure power) and Nefaria established himself as a amazingly powerful heavyweight decades ago.

Adam is high tier and Apocalypse is pretty rubbish, his consistent jobbing and bad use of his powers means he isn't much of a factor here.

@wollfmyth209: lol just because you never read the 12 to clearly see Apocalypse was far more powerful doesn't mean he isn't i never read the book where ares defeated highfather.

and actually Apocalypse didn't only create alternate versions of characters he created alternate realities around the 616 x-men.

@diarrhearegatta: he has more highend feats than low end and your supposed to ignore pis moments besides this is him from the 12 who was powerful enough to alter timelines on a universal scale on a whim.

@comic_book_fan: I wish I could trust you but you are prone to pretty rough wank and misinformation.

@diarrhearegatta: lol i have never wanked backing a character you disaprove of isn't wanking lol and i posted evidence of everything i said.

@comic_book_fan: Oh trust me, the idea of personally disliking a fictional character or thinking that someone does is far above my standards.

I was hoping this wasn't DC Ares because he would one shot Teth and absolutely toy with Apocalypse

@somayareece: no he wouldnt especially not this version of Apocalypse

@somayareece: What's your profile pic?

@comic_book_fan: lol just because you never read the 12 to clearly see Apocalypse was far more powerful doesn't mean he isn't i never read the book where ares defeated highfather.

You got a lot of nerve criticizing one person for not reading some random storyline, while also proudly claiming you never read another storyline. You not reading the comic where Ares defeated HighFather is no concearn of mine, lol. It happened, regardless of if you're ignorant of the feats existance or not.

Besides, if you wanna use an amped version Apoc, I'll just use GodWave Ares who had a portion of the Sources power, which means creating universes would be child's play to him. So either way, Ares demolishes.

@wollfmyth209: you just made my point for me thats what i was saying just because you never read the story to know how powerful Apocalypse was in the story doesn't change the fact he was that powerful.

and ares had prepared for his fight with highfather and built up his energies according to the scan i saw again didnt read the story don't know the context.

i didnt pick the version after it was falsely stated Apocalypse had no chance at his regular power levels the creator of the fight did i suggested using the aoa version who would be more than a fair fight for ares but he went with the 12 version who would solo easily

@wollfmyth209: Since Ares stomping Apocalypse is so obvious with multiple comic book issues proving it, why don't you put some scans to end this debate since there's only one person who's obviously biased considering his profile pic to root for Apocalypse? Then there could be more people agreeing with him but until that happens, I think you should be easily overwhelming him since this thread's current status is putting you at a clearly advantageous position.

@comic_book_fan: you just made my point for me thats what i was saying just because you never read the story to know how powerful Apocalypse was in the story doesn't change the fact he was that powerful.

Which is why I asked what 12!Apocalypse can do. And then when you answered, I told you why that's unimpressive. Then you said "I didn't read a comic book, so it didn't happen!", instead of asking for scans, context, explanations, etc.

It's an entirely different scenario.

and ares had prepared for his fight with highfather and built up his energies according to the scan i saw again didnt read the story don't know the context.

He didn't prepare for his fight with Izaya specifically, he was preparing his energies to take over the Godwave: that's the scheme he was working towards, not killing HighFather. And he simply said he "channelled his energies", i.e. there's no external power source amping him, it's his own power, and he's using it. So yeah.

What exactly are you talking about? There are no scans of Apocalypse and Ares fighting since they're -- guess what? -- from two different franchises. If you're referring to scans of Ares stomping HighFather, here:

Gallery

Given what HighFather is capable of, this feat is insane and puts Ares well beyond anyone else in this thread.

I don't know jack shit about these characters but I'm 100% certain that Apocalypse gets stomped.

I'm pretty damn sure Ares can solo, BA has absolutely no buisness here.