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Both blood lusted

Who wins?

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Kenpachi wins, unfortunately Logia intangibility doesn't do anything against soul based attacks.

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Kenpachi wins, unfortunately Logia intangibility doesn't do anything against soul based attacks.

Flash freeze gg, observation haki helps him avoid soul attacks. Armament haki should block them being that haki resonates from ones spirit

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@eazy2002 said:
@sup3rn0va said:

Kenpachi wins, unfortunately Logia intangibility doesn't do anything against soul based attacks.

Flash freeze gg, observation haki helps him avoid soul attacks. Armament haki should block them being that haki resonates from ones spirit

1. You're debating in your own thread and clearly already intending for a winner.

@emperorthanos-@jedixmann

2. Kenpachi has the AP to one shot Aokiji

3. Armament Haki doesn't make you invincible, Kenpachi still one shots.

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@eazy2002 said:
@sup3rn0va said:

Kenpachi wins, unfortunately Logia intangibility doesn't do anything against soul based attacks.

Flash freeze gg, observation haki helps him avoid soul attacks. Armament haki should block them being that haki resonates from ones spirit

1. You're debating in your own thread and clearly already intending for a winner.

Sorry mate.

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2. Kenpachi has the AP to one shot Aokiji

3. Armament Haki doesn't make you invincible, Kenpachi still one shots.

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Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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@omnihater said:

Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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Show the part where Doflamingo broke out of that, Doflamingo's physical strength is literal trash compared to Kenpachi's

Again, Kenpachi one shots.

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@omnihater said:

Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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Show the part where Doflamingo broke out of that, Doflamingo's physical strength is literal trash compared to Kenpachi's

Again, Kenpachi one shots.

When is it said that doflamingo was released by his physical force?

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Btw; this end like this.

Again, aokiji oneshots your favorite character.

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@sup3rn0va said:

@omnihater said:

Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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Show the part where Doflamingo broke out of that, Doflamingo's physical strength is literal trash compared to Kenpachi's

Again, Kenpachi one shots.

When is it said that doflamingo was released by his physical force?

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Btw; this end like this.

Again, aokiji oneshots your favorite character.

That's one hell of a counter

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#10  Edited By Sup3rn0va

@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va said:

@omnihater said:

Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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Show the part where Doflamingo broke out of that, Doflamingo's physical strength is literal trash compared to Kenpachi's

Again, Kenpachi one shots.

When is it said that doflamingo was released by his physical force?

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Btw; this end like this.

Again, aokiji oneshots your favorite character.

You use Jozu as if he even compares to Kenpachi in physical strength... Jozu required all his strength to lift like 1/50th of Marineford. Kenpachi overpowered the KE and obliterated a Country destroying meteor...

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@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va said:

@omnihater said:

Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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Show the part where Doflamingo broke out of that, Doflamingo's physical strength is literal trash compared to Kenpachi's

Again, Kenpachi one shots.

When is it said that doflamingo was released by his physical force?

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Btw; this end like this.

Again, aokiji oneshots your favorite character.

You use Jozu as if he even compares to Kenpachi in physical strength... Jozu required all his strength to lift like 1/50th of Marineford. Kenpachi overpowered the KE and obliterated a Country destroying meteor...

It has nothing to do with force.

scan of Kenpachi freeing itself of internal freezing?

I will ignore the stupidness of the country that has long since been denied.

And yes, Jozu is comparable to Kenpachi in physical strength.

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@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va said:

@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va said:

@omnihater said:

Insert kenpachi there insteed of doflamingo, thats all.

LOL, at kenpachi oneshoting any admiral.

aokiji stomps.

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Show the part where Doflamingo broke out of that, Doflamingo's physical strength is literal trash compared to Kenpachi's

Again, Kenpachi one shots.

When is it said that doflamingo was released by his physical force?

No Caption Provided

Btw; this end like this.

Again, aokiji oneshots your favorite character.

You use Jozu as if he even compares to Kenpachi in physical strength... Jozu required all his strength to lift like 1/50th of Marineford. Kenpachi overpowered the KE and obliterated a Country destroying meteor...

It has nothing to do with force.

scan of Kenpachi freeing itself of internal freezing?

1. Aokiji can't freeze someone solid instantly, this has been shown against Doffy and Whitebeard

2. Kenpachi literally flexing breaks Aokiji's ice, comparing him to people like Jozu or Doffy doesn't work.

I will ignore the stupidness of the country that has long since been denied.

Rofl. Denying something you can't counter? It is Country sized.

And yes, Jozu is comparable to Kenpachi in physical strength.

Lol no. As I said, it took everything Jozu had to lift that Iceberg which was again tiny compared to Marineford.

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@sup3rn0va:

1. yes he can, it was showed multiples times.

here.

here.

here.

here.

2. Someone like jozu can't do that, kenpachi either

You cannot free yourself from internal freezing only with force.

3. The manga just takes care of it, I don't even have to say anything

here

here

here

here

There is more, but with those it is enough to know that sereitei is not a country.

4. Jozu hurt Aokiji, he was fighting him until he got distracted.

Thing that kenpachi dreams to do.

And that iceberg feat don't take all his strength, stop lying.

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#14  Edited By Sup3rn0va

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@sup3rn0va:

1. yes he can, it was showed multiples times.

here.

How is that showing he froze it's insides instantly?

here.

How is that showing he froze her insides instantly? If he truly froze Robin's insides she'd be dead, no amount of thawing would do anything.

here.

How is that showing he froze it's insides instantly?

here.

How is that showing he froze it's insides instantly?

2. Someone like jozu can't do that, kenpachi either

Again, Jozu isn't Kenpachi, Jozu is honestly fodder.

You cannot free yourself from internal freezing only with force.

Ok? That's why Kenpachi either breaks out before he's frozen completely or he one shots Aokiji before that.

3. The manga just takes care of it, I don't even have to say anything

here

here

here

here

There is more, but with those it is enough to know that sereitei is not a country.

Every single one of those scans has the Soul Society at a different size, which again, is why a statement that is pretty much the equivalent of giving us it's size is better than inconsistent Manga drawings.

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It takes 10 days to travel from one gate to the next, there's 4 gates, so 40 days to travel completely around.

4. Jozu hurt Aokiji, he was fighting him until he got distracted.

Thing that kenpachi dreams to do.

Jozu is fodder, Kenpachi one shots Aokiji.

And that iceberg feat don't take all his strength, stop lying.

Show me a better feat by him.

Jozu was clearly using most of if not all of his strength.

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@sup3rn0va:

1. Aokiji stated that her body is so fragile that if she gets broken (which means that it is crystallized) she will die.

Aokiji uses the same type of freezing for the different scan that I place.

2. "Jozu is honestly fodder" God tier argument, next.

3. Scan of kenpach1 doing what you claim, when jozu didnt do it.

4. In all these scan shows that sereitei is the size of a city.

Both are canon, so i can take the drawnings of kubo as evidence

10 days is not a measure of distance, either.

So there is no numerical data about the size of the sereitei.

5. Jozu hurt aokiji and was fighting him well until he gets distracted and aokiji oneshots him due internal freezing, just like is going to happen in this versus.

Jozu is not a fodder, LOL.

here

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#16  Edited By Sup3rn0va

@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va:

1. Aokiji stated that her body is so fragile that if she gets broken (which means that it is crystallized) she will die.

That's not the same thing as freezing somebody's insides though. Again, Robin would be dead if she was completely frozen inside and out.

Aokiji uses the same type of freezing for the different scan that I place.

Aokiji also used the same type of freezing here and it's literally proven that you're not frozen completely instantly

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2. "Jozu is honestly fodder" God tier argument, next.

He is fodder lol... Great counter.

3. Scan of kenpach1 doing what you claim, when jozu didnt do it.

A scan of what? Kenpachi does it by virtue of being stronger than both Jozu and Doffy

4. In all these scan shows that sereitei is the size of a city.

All those scans have varying sizes for the Seiretei, they're not consistent.

Both are canon, so i can take the drawnings of kubo as evidence

You're just taking that as "evidence" to downplay, the statement is infinitely more reliable in this instance.

10 days is not a measure of distance, either.

Yes it is though... Even with lowball and assuming they're as slow as a regular Human you can get the size of Seiretei

So there is no numerical data about the size of the sereitei.

Maybe not for you, but for people who understand basic Math there is.

5. Jozu hurt aokiji and was fighting him well until he gets distracted and aokiji oneshots him due internal freezing, just like is going to happen in this versus.

Jozu gave Aokiji a little cut on the lip whilst abusing him being distracted... Aokiji completely defeated Jozu by catching him off guard. One is very clearly much stronger than the other. Jozu is fodder.

Jozu is not a fodder, LOL.

Yes he is. In the context of this fight he is fodder.

here

So to prove Jozu isn't fodder, you show me a scan of Jozu getting a cheap shot on Aokiji when he wasn't even able to move

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And all the damage he caused with it was a slight cut on Aokiji's lip...

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Wow.

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Escanor claps both of this fodders

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@sup3rn0va: actually He can he just was giving Doffy a warning shot(so he didn't free him entirely) and Whitebeard used his devil fruit to break free of Ice ball. Still think Kenpachi wins but he can do it instantly.

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#19  Edited By Sup3rn0va

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@sup3rn0va: actually He can he just was giving Doffy a warning shot(so he didn't free him entirely) and Whitebeard used his devil fruit to break free of Ice ball. Still think Kenpachi wins but he can do it instantly.

That's head canon, there's no proof he was just giving him a warning shot, Aokiji has no reason to go easy on Doflamingo considering the latter was trying to kill one of his closest friends.

Besides, Kenpachi was completely unaffected by the temperature in the Vacuum of space, only the lack of Oxygen affected him, the Vacuum of space is almost absolute zero.

That means he has better cold resistance feats than Doffy, Jozu, Whitebeard, Robin and Saul.

I stand by what I said, Kenpachi wins with ease.

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Does Kenny start in base, Shikai, bankai??

Base Kenny gets laughed at. Shikai Kenny gets low diffed. Bankai Kenny tires himself out and dies trying to kill Aokiji.

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Does Kenny start in base, Shikai, bankai??

Base Kenny gets laughed at. Shikai Kenny gets low diffed. Bankai Kenny tires himself out and dies trying to kill Aokiji.

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#22  Edited By Raziel2014

oh god this thread, if Kenpachi can affect Aokiji real body then he one shots with or without shikai.

even Rukia Absolute zero would be nothing to kenpachi wth is Aokiji gonna do give him a nice cool breeze.

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Yeah Kenny gets flash frozen like fodder (he’s not fodder just a bad match up)

Striking strength isn’t lifting strength nobody in bleach is physically breaking out of aokiji’s ice if jozu cant, meninas was a big deal physical strength wise and jozu’s feat makes her look bad.

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#24  Edited By Sup3rn0va

@ecoblitz said:

Yeah Kenny gets flash frozen like fodder (he’s not fodder just a bad match up)

Striking strength isn’t lifting strength nobody in bleach is physically breaking out of aokiji’s ice if jozu cant, meninas was a big deal physical strength wise and jozu’s feat makes her look bad.

A base fatigued eyepatch on Kenpachi stopped and lifted a stomp from Gerard and then proceeded to push him over.

Lifting Gerard on it's own probably doesn't match, but stopping a stomp from him and essentially tossing him away definitely does.

Btw comparing Meninas to Kenpachi is one of the saddest things I've ever read.

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kenny takes it.

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#26  Edited By Raziel2014

@ecoblitz said:

Yeah Kenny gets flash frozen like fodder (he’s not fodder just a bad match up)

Striking strength isn’t lifting strength nobody in bleach is physically breaking out of aokiji’s ice if jozu cant, meninas was a big deal physical strength wise and jozu’s feat makes her look bad.

Meninas was never a big thing.

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@raziel2014: komomaru is the physically strongest character (lifting) shown among the shinigami.

Boulders vary in weight lol. Nevermind that doesn’t help as the thing jozu three dreaded giants iirc

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> Komamura physically strongest Shinigami

> Kenpachi stopping a stomp by Gerard, lifting him up and toppling him over

Pick 1

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Aokijii stomps this is a bad matchup for Kenpachi, he’s just a brick who gets flash frozen and kicked into ice cubes

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Also with the Doflamingo breaking out of Aokijjis ice it’s stated on the next panel that Aokijii didn’t freeze his heart.

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Imagine thinking Aokiji would freeze Kenny and think that would defeat Kenny.

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#32  Edited By LeoTheGreatest
  1. Characters weaker than Kenpachi have broken out of Aokiji’s ice.
  2. Characters weaker than Kenpachi have overcame Absolute Zero.

Stop making One Piece debaters look bad with these ignorant arguments.

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#33  Edited By Sup3rn0va

Honestly though, how does Aokiji even freeze somebody that was completely unaffected by almost Absolute Zero in the vaccum of space?

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The temperature of space isn't exactly Absolute Zero but it's very close (about <3 degrees Celsius & <5 degrees Fahrenheit in terms of difference) so yeah Aokiji, whose ice isn't at that level nor that strong, isn't beating Kenpachi.

But does logic matter to these people? No. #SeaKingsCanLiterallyEatIslandsBro

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@donutmaker31 said:

@sup3rn0va: actually He can he just was giving Doffy a warning shot(so he didn't free him entirely) and Whitebeard used his devil fruit to break free of Ice ball. Still think Kenpachi wins but he can do it instantly.

That's head canon, there's no proof he was just giving him a warning shot, Aokiji has no reason to go easy on Doflamingo considering the latter was trying to kill one of his closest friends.

He didn't use his arms like he would or any named attacks. And if anything he was relying on instinct and most likely wouldn't freeze some one all the way like he would.

Besides, Kenpachi was completely unaffected by the temperature in the Vacuum of space, only the lack of Oxygen affected him, the Vacuum of space is almost absolute zero.

That means he has better cold resistance feats than Doffy, Jozu, Whitebeard, Robin and Saul.

I stand by what I said, Kenpachi wins with ease.

I never said he didn`t I replied since you said Aokiji doesn't instantly.

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#36  Edited By Raziel2014

@ecoblitz said:

@raziel2014: komomaru is the physically strongest character (lifting) shown among the shinigami.

Boulders vary in weight lol. Nevermind that doesn’t help as the thing jozu three dreaded giants iirc

komamura is now the physical strongest shinigami, not sure if you are being serious or trolling

boulders do vary in weight but this fodder arrancar has thousands/tens of thousands of those feathers and is moving without any problem and he even doubles the feather/weight after powering up he also is not crushed under its weight even after Kira increased the wings weight by 16x, with simple math you can see this arrancar has no problem lifting tens of millions of kg

even fodder Menos Grande weight 38.52 tons, and they have no trouble moving their own bodies.

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@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va:

1. Aokiji stated that her body is so fragile that if she gets broken (which means that it is crystallized) she will die.

That's not the same thing as freezing somebody's insides though. Again, Robin would be dead if she was completely frozen inside and out.

Aokiji uses the same type of freezing for the different scan that I place.

Aokiji also used the same type of freezing here and it's literally proven that you're not frozen completely instantly

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2. "Jozu is honestly fodder" God tier argument, next.

He is fodder lol... Great counter.

3. Scan of kenpach1 doing what you claim, when jozu didnt do it.

A scan of what? Kenpachi does it by virtue of being stronger than both Jozu and Doffy

4. In all these scan shows that sereitei is the size of a city.

All those scans have varying sizes for the Seiretei, they're not consistent.

Both are canon, so i can take the drawnings of kubo as evidence

You're just taking that as "evidence" to downplay, the statement is infinitely more reliable in this instance.

10 days is not a measure of distance, either.

Yes it is though... Even with lowball and assuming they're as slow as a regular Human you can get the size of Seiretei

So there is no numerical data about the size of the sereitei.

Maybe not for you, but for people who understand basic Math there is.

5. Jozu hurt aokiji and was fighting him well until he gets distracted and aokiji oneshots him due internal freezing, just like is going to happen in this versus.

Jozu gave Aokiji a little cut on the lip whilst abusing him being distracted... Aokiji completely defeated Jozu by catching him off guard. One is very clearly much stronger than the other. Jozu is fodder.

Jozu is not a fodder, LOL.

Yes he is. In the context of this fight he is fodder.

here

So to prove Jozu isn't fodder, you show me a scan of Jozu getting a cheap shot on Aokiji when he wasn't even able to move

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And all the damage he caused with it was a slight cut on Aokiji's lip...

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Wow.

1. It is exactly that, unless you want to make me laugh and explain to me how someone is fragile to the point that it can break after freezing without having to completely freeze their living tissue.

Robin didn't die because it's a manga and oda wanted it that way, headcanon argument.

2. That doesn't prove anything, it just shows that doflamingo can free itself from an internal freeze.

Does Kenpachi have a feat like this?

3. bleachtard headcanon, next argument.

4. being Strongly do not counter the internal freezing of aokiji.

Kenpachi is not stronger than Jozu, next.

5. All scan are consistent with the sereitei being the size of a city.

6. You take the statements as evidence to highball, the drawings are relatively more reliable in this instance.

7.No, it is not a numerical measure, when the Sereitei is full of alleys, which further delay the trip.

So no, the 10-day thing is no use.

8. For someone who has seen all the panoramic views of the Seretei, knows that this is not the size of a country.

and that the 10 days thing you are taking out of context.

9. Taking a little blood from a guy who fights 10 days against akainu is more than what Kenpachi dreams of doing in his life.

He freezes him because he was distracted, he was struggling with him before that, aokiji does the same to kenpachi and in the worst possible way.

10. he hurt aokiji, kenpachi cant hurt aokiji, next.

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#38  Edited By Sup3rn0va

@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va said:
@omnihater said:

@sup3rn0va:

1. Aokiji stated that her body is so fragile that if she gets broken (which means that it is crystallized) she will die.

That's not the same thing as freezing somebody's insides though. Again, Robin would be dead if she was completely frozen inside and out.

Aokiji uses the same type of freezing for the different scan that I place.

Aokiji also used the same type of freezing here and it's literally proven that you're not frozen completely instantly

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2. "Jozu is honestly fodder" God tier argument, next.

He is fodder lol... Great counter.

3. Scan of kenpach1 doing what you claim, when jozu didnt do it.

A scan of what? Kenpachi does it by virtue of being stronger than both Jozu and Doffy

4. In all these scan shows that sereitei is the size of a city.

All those scans have varying sizes for the Seiretei, they're not consistent.

Both are canon, so i can take the drawnings of kubo as evidence

You're just taking that as "evidence" to downplay, the statement is infinitely more reliable in this instance.

10 days is not a measure of distance, either.

Yes it is though... Even with lowball and assuming they're as slow as a regular Human you can get the size of Seiretei

So there is no numerical data about the size of the sereitei.

Maybe not for you, but for people who understand basic Math there is.

5. Jozu hurt aokiji and was fighting him well until he gets distracted and aokiji oneshots him due internal freezing, just like is going to happen in this versus.

Jozu gave Aokiji a little cut on the lip whilst abusing him being distracted... Aokiji completely defeated Jozu by catching him off guard. One is very clearly much stronger than the other. Jozu is fodder.

Jozu is not a fodder, LOL.

Yes he is. In the context of this fight he is fodder.

here

So to prove Jozu isn't fodder, you show me a scan of Jozu getting a cheap shot on Aokiji when he wasn't even able to move

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And all the damage he caused with it was a slight cut on Aokiji's lip...

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Wow.

1. It is exactly that, unless you want to make me laugh and explain to me how someone is fragile to the point that it can break after freezing without having to completely freeze their living tissue.

Robin didn't die because it's a manga and oda wanted it that way, headcanon argument.

You call it a headcanon argument whilst proceeding to make a headcanon argument... Wow.

2. That doesn't prove anything, it just shows that doflamingo can free itself from an internal freeze.

It shows that Aokiji doesn't freeze people instantly.

Does Kenpachi have a feat like this?

A feat of what? Include what you're responding to when you respond. If you're referring to breaking out of ice, he has a better one, being completely fine in Space, which is much colder than Aokiji's ice, honestly Aokiji can't even freeze Kenpachi.

3. bleachtard headcanon, next argument.

Why you gotta insult me?

4. being Strongly do not counter the internal freezing of aokiji.

It does when Aokiji doesn't freeze you instantly.

Kenpachi is not stronger than Jozu, next.

He is, next.

5. All scan are consistent with the sereitei being the size of a city.

All of those scans have different sizes for Seiretei, statement >>> inconsistent manga drawings.

6. You take the statements as evidence to highball, the drawings are relatively more reliable in this instance.

L0l. Keep making yourself look like a joke, apparently manga drawings are more consistent than statements, no words.

7.No, it is not a numerical measure, when the Sereitei is full of alleys, which further delay the trip.

Are you joking? You realize that time it would take is referring to walking outside the wall? Bruh, keep proving that you've not even read Bleach.

So no, the 10-day thing is no use.

Except it is, keep being in denial and I'll just keep saying it.

8. For someone who has seen all the panoramic views of the Seretei, knows that this is not the size of a country.

For someone who has seen multiple different scans of the Seiretei with all of them depicting a different size, a statement is miles more consistent.

and that the 10 days thing you are taking out of context.

Tell me the correct context. This should be good.

9. Taking a little blood from a guy who fights 10 days against akainu is more than what Kenpachi dreams of doing in his life.

Right, Kenpachi one shots Aokiji and Akainu.

He freezes him because he was distracted, he was struggling with him before that, aokiji does the same to kenpachi and in the worst possible way.

Yes Aokiji froze Jozu when he was distracted, but that's far better than Jozu catching Aokiji off guard whilst he can't move and only giving him a slight cut.

10. he hurt aokiji, kenpachi cant hurt aokiji, next.

Kenpachi doesn't just hurt Aokiji, he bisects him with the greatest of ease.

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Kenpachi should be able to harm logias, same with any sufficiently fast and powerful shinigami. Defeating souls is kinda their whole thing...

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1. no counters, next

2. stilll no counters, next

3. And why does the space created by a fool like gremmy have to be as cold as real space?

4. cuz you argument is jus saying "joxu is fodder", god tier argument dude.

5. Aokiji does it, next

6. he is not, next

7. drawnings>>>>inconsistent statements

8. Apparently if the author says that the sereitei measures 1000000000000000000000000000000km and then is drawn like the size of a house, I have to believe him because I am blind

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9. Yes, the point remains the same, you take out of context a fact that does not reflect any number.

Walking people can talk, stop, rest, camp, sleep, etc.

which would delay travel time more.

and Ichigo arrive walking to the central part of the Sereitei in less than a day, so there is an inconsistency there too.

10. not is not.

11. In all the scan you don't see anything the size of a country, and I keep with that fact.

12. Everything was for ichigo to fly instead of walking to the other door.

Then we see that it takes less than a day to reach the central palace.

13. Right, kenpachi gets oneshot by any admiral.

14. giving him slight cut is better than anything than kenpachi can do to aokiji

15. keep dreaming boy.

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#41  Edited By Sup3rn0va

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1. I've made plenty of arguments, next.

2. Saying "still no counters" isn't a counter, next.

3. Is this a joke? The oxygen part was real and exactly how it would be in real life, you're really reaching here.

4. Jozu is fodder in comparison to this battle yes, next.

5. No he doesn't, next.

6. He is, next.

7. Statements >>> Inconsistent drawings, next.

8. Not even comparable, next.

9. Give them 10 hours rest, you still come out with Country sized.

10. "Not is not", what does this mean?

11. It's irrelevant, the point of what I said was to tell you that drawings aren't consistent. Just like how even though Luffy was stated to have knocked out 50,000 out of 100,000 fishmen, in the drawing there looks to be at most like 2,000.

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12. What does this even mean?

13. No, Kenpachi one shots Aokiji.

14. Keep being in denial boy.

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#42  Edited By grappolo

Kenpachi oneshots.

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Jozu is stronger than kenpachi

LMAO

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Kenpachi swings in his general direction.

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@djoss: and will be disappointed as he will be flash frozen or unable to harm kiji or kiki has evaded

Ot:kiji stomps him like fodder

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1. no, you are not

2. you dont post any counter, next

3. Yes, about oxygen, which has nothing to do with temperature.

I wait for the scan where Gremmy says that his space is as cold as the real one.

4. 0 counters, next

5. yes, and easy, deal with it

6. he is not

7. drawnings>>>>inconsistent statements

8. very comprable

9. i can give one week rest if i want, i does not mean anything.

10. You said that the 10-day data can be used to find sizes, and I said no, because it is out of context.

11. The drawings are consistent with the fact that they never reach the size of a country.

The example you set is not comparable because we do not see the whole Gyojin Plaza, while we have several panoramic views of the Sereitei that are far from being the size you want to give it.

12. All fell more or less to the end of the wall.

Chad fell even closer to the wall.

Ichigo fell into place, then chad despite being near the wall, he reaches to the place of ichigo just walking, then ichigo came from that place and he arrives where it is rukia, with a shortcut, and all that happened in less than a day.

chapters 84-95

13. aokiji oneshots

14. you are in denial, LOL

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#47  Edited By Sup3rn0va

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1. Yes I have, next.

2. I don't need to, your claim wasn't based on evidence but rather headcanon

3. This is almost as bad as that time you said Gremmy actively went out of his way to put fire on his meteor instead of it occurring naturally, almost. At this point, I and probably everyone else takes nothing you say seriously.

4. Jozu is fodder in comparison to this battle, god tier counter dude.

5. No he doesn't, next.

6. He is, next.

7. "Inconsistent statements", bruh this dude. Show me another statement that makes it inconsistent, next.

8. Not even remotely comparable, next.

9. It means everything, your "What if they take rest argument" got rekd, and now you're back pedaling because I'm right. You can literally cut their travel time in half and say they get 12 hours rest a day and Seiretei would still be massively larger than the images you're trying to use to lowball it, next.

10. And yet you've not actually provided any context that I haven't debunked, next.

11. The drawings are inconsistent due to the fact that they show different sizes.

How do you know that isn't all of Gyojin Plaza? Show me an image of it all.

12. I don't care what Manga panels you show me or what head canon you use to connect them in an attempt to lowball Bleach. I'm using the statement and nothing you say is changing my mind, the only way you're convincing me it's less than Country sized is with a statement directly contradicting Yoruichi's. Again, Statement >>>> Inconsistent Manga drawings.

13. Aokiji gets one shot by people far weaker than Kenpachi

14. You are in denial, LOL!

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1.no

2.you need to

3.0 counters for both arguments,next

4.no

5. Yws he does

6.he is not

7.reread the manga

8. Yes thy are

9. No it does not

10.yes i prove it

11.they are not.

12.manga panels>>your crying

13. Kenoachi gets oneshogt by people far weaker than aokijo

14. You are in denial.

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#50  Edited By Sup3rn0va

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1. Yes

2. I need to disprove your unproven arguments? Nah.

3. Uno reverse

4. Yes

5. No he doesn't

6. Yes he is

7. Since you haven't proven what I asked I'm just gonna continue and say that even though it was stated that Luffy knocked out 50,000, from visuals he knocked out less than 2,000.

8. No they aren't

9. Yes it does

10. No you didn't

11. Yes they are

12. This doesn't make sense

13. Kenpachi comes very close to soloing OP verse, I mean even One Piece God tiers aren't that strong, the entire power for One Piece in general has been a catastrophic failure and everybody is laughing about it. It's become quite the meme at this point and at the rate One Piece is going it will always be at the bottom.

14. No u

By the way, dunno if you noticed, but I copied your layout multiple posts ago and it has made the discussion terrible, you should really learn to format your posts better.