Anti-Saitama Genos (OPM) vs All Might/All For One/Nomu (MHA)

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Genos stomps

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MHA isn't at OPM levels yet. Mismatch

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Still solos the verse.

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Genos stomps

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Genos

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Isn't Anti-Saitama supposed to be much weaker than G4, Post-Tournament, and Monster Association?

MHA has the numbers advantage, this fight is closer than you think.

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What does "Anti-Saitama" mean?

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#10  Edited By DarkHoudini

@sy8000: Genos at the level he was when he sparred against Saitama I’d imagine.

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#16  Edited By LogicLancer

My previous assessment is incorrect. Team should take this, I think.

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Genos casually

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Genos and this isn't close.

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#19  Edited By KingCrimson

Team stomp.

Lol at AS Genos soloing the verse.

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Genos farts and incinerates the whole verse.

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@ljayg: That's a mighty smelly boof.

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#24  Edited By LogicLancer

@ljayg: @caocao: @dadpool: @o0deadman0o: @thevvitchking: Genos is literally my favorite opm character(I even view him as very strong) and even I can admit AS Genos cannot solo the verse. Current Genos? Sure. PT/MA Genos? Probably. G4? Well, a case can be made.

But AS? That's literally the second/third weakest incarnation of Genos, and not even a mid-tier in his own verse.

He cannot beat all three of them.

Also, lol at him farting the verse away. He's a cyborg. He can't fart.

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@logiclancer: Anti-Saitama Genos could still effortlessly break the sound barrier during his fight with Saitama and Sea King (he still has the same upgrades)

He probably solos MHA verse easily with his superior speed and firepower unless shinso mind controls him

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@muhdsyarif: AS Genos has zero chance at soloing the verse if he’s just dropped in. He can conceivably win gauntlet style but even that isn’t guaranteed.

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#27  Edited By MuhdSyarif

@kingcrimson: I'm pretty sure he can since he's a lot faster in reaction/combat than Anyone in MHA unless he runs out of fuel. His energy cannons are huge counter to any hero and villain too

Only one i see stopping him is shinso, overhaul, Shigaraki and Eri. Butttt their hax is completely useless since MHA hax is only effective via physical contact or close range which is not what Genos would let them do

Edit: Idk if Shinso can affect Genos since he might have stronger willpower than Fubuki who can resist Do-s's mind control attack

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@muhdsyarif: What are AS Genos speed feats that put him so far above everybody? He’s supersonic at best.

His incinerator cannons are also pretty easy to dodge given that they’re a hugely telegraphed attack. All Might or AFO would bury this version of Genos.

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@kingcrimson:

An injured Genos can fight at and react to supersonic speeds from his fight with Sea King:

https://pre01.deviantart.net/d766/th/pre/f/2015/165/4/3/genos_clash_2_by_shadowfrost1-d8xaneq.jpg

Sea King himself can strike at supersonic speeds(note the mach cone around his forearm):

https://image.myanimelist.net/ui/OK6W_koKDTOqqqLDbIoPAtYXGkHBAeipaCYRLF8cDcM

And i doubt Any of the MHA top tiers can survive Genos's blast that does this:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11131/111310697/6449018-2430054613-0026-.png

Sure, his blast is kinda telegraghed but you gotta remember a healthy Genos manage to blitz a hydrated Sea King that can keep track of a high supersonic ninja:

https://i5.mangareader.net/onepunch-man/32/onepunch-man-4232231.jpg

https://i1.mangareader.net/onepunch-man/32/onepunch-man-4232233.jpg

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@muhdsyarif:

An injured Genos can fight at and react to supersonic speeds from his fight with Sea King:

Sea King wasn't supersonic.

Sea King himself can strike at supersonic speeds(note the mach cone around his forearm):

That's not a supersonic feat and you don't have any conclusive proof of it - it's entirely your inference from a very questionable art choice. It's directly contradicted by the anime where Sea King tries and fails to tag Sonic who's barely moving at Supersonic speed at the time.

And i doubt Any of the MHA top tiers can survive Genos's blast that does this:

A holding back All Might with weights on replicated that exact same feat. The MHA top tiers would laugh that off.

Sure, his blast is kinda telegraghed but you gotta remember a healthy Genos manage to blitz a hydrated Sea King that can keep track of a high supersonic ninja:

The blast is completely telegraphed, Sonic had no feats above baseline supersonic at the time of fighting DSK, and it seems like an outlier speed-wise seeing as dehydrated DSK could keep up with this version of Genos.

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Genos stomps.

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@kingcrimson: Anime is non-canon usually and there's no proof the anime retcons what the manga is meant to interpret. And do we really need to go back to this again? Sonic does not always need to emit the sonic boom he did against Saitama or else you could barely what's happening in the fight. Its quite obvious Sonic can reach supersonic speed since he did that already on Saitama while playing around so its not an outlier considering Sea King is demon level too.

None of MHA top tiers have energy durability on the level of Genos's. You cant just straight up compare blunt force and thermal as the same in fiction when it comes to their potency. Hell, if Bakugo's firecrackers can make All Might bleed then Genos's blast would burn him like a chicken being cooked alive

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@muhdsyarif: it doesn’t contradict anything in the manga, it simply expands on it.

I never said he did, but every feat with the faintest hint of an impact line around it doesn’t equate to supersonic speed, either.

Yeah that’s my bad, I had Iron Man’s repulspors in my head for some reason. Can you post the feat with Bakugou’s explosions - I don’t recall. In any case, his incinerator cannons are still incredibly telegraphed.

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@kingcrimson: I dont recall any proof of ONE accepting it as a retcon

But they were emitted by superhumans which makes it believable and seeing how Sea King can go FTE, its not so much of a stretch. Genos during his spar with Saitama constantly breaks the sound barrier:

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/aF8LUK9ILpBZNodqmB3SG80zTc0vgxVtZCktlorkeTwLOjwjLivNfqZyzR1yiyJTmLkVfuq7Yk-gF022ImeysVW5KpNlGa1E17NZX9tskQkBJ_AyJuWbZb6C-iS-hQl16MCXyyKAyg=s0?title=NjEuNi4yMzguMTAz005___1563935776.png

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/_YMSNyLoaFnF-6UNzpnp7BDwxP7oDi1sJs9Cz8SMIAUEXxUSfhcrNJpz0hSKntID1jIIQljHff8BXKjUAyPCazQ5m1oHdWzP9zwI3HZ-GCbtrGjcLGu5K3TXS7W8PGAdbcK0RtSXng=s0?title=NjEuNi4yMzguMTAz006___1563935776.png

And here's All Might bleeding from Bakugo's explosions:

https://static3.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111220339/5789433-tanks%20this%20blast.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CyARTjpUoAA6Y62.jpg

Sure its telegraphed but the MHA team doesnt even have supersonic reaction speed

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AS Genos is insanely inferior to his upgraded forms though. He's barely above intro base Genos here. He is supersonic but not seemingly by some significant amount like later on. All Might is likely supersonic as well. He beat a handful of Nomu and THEN traveled 5 km in 30 seconds. So assuming half fight/half travel, which is generous since the fighting and defeating 4 Nomus would likely take longer than the unimpeded travel, he'd already be around supersonic with this feat alone. All For One commented this feat indicated to him that All Might was far past his prime. So All For One not only dealt with supersonic+ All Might but was also prepared to deal with a far faster opponent. And Nomu was casually matching this version of All Might in speed as well. So if we have 3 on 1, I'll give team an edge. He may be faster than them all individually but I don't think Genos would be able to handle them all at once. And all of them have the attack potency to beat Genos assuming they land their hits. Genos's big hits like the incineration cannon are telegraphed and not immediate. Current Genos would absolutely slaughter them though. I just don't think he could take them on 3 at once in this far inferior form of his. And though All Might is slow by OPM standards, his striking power is still REMARKABLY impressive by OPM standards. Not to mention Nomu's regen and AFO's power enhancers.

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@larryvos: I think you're underestimating how fast Anti-Saitana Genos is. He's able to go FTE to and Blitz a hydrated Sea King. Sure, Genos got careless after that but since this is a 3vs1, He'll be way more vigilant

Hydrated Sea King can even keep up with sonic who can casually break the sound barrier at the time

And i dint anyone of the team would last more than 2 shots of Genos's incineration cannon which is MUCH stronger than Bakugo's firecrackers that made All Might bleed

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Genos mountain busts everyone in MHA verse

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Genos blitz MHAverse and wipe out everyone from existence

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pretty sure its common knowledge Genos could wipe out MHA verse. Just asked my grandma and she agreed.