Anos Voldigoad vs xeno Goku

@supersonictl:

And no more absurdity, going into the crack of time doesn't make you 4d or 5d what kind of logic it is, going to places where the flow of time is not ordinary doesn't make you transcendent of the place. Then how to beat someone means that you are 1d more than him I refuse to call it logic but well I'm fed up with it remains in your stupid dimensional hierarchy anyway xenoverse and heroes are games completely different with their own history and that have a canon between them only cosmology and characters so trying to powerscall from one to the other is useless and dishonest.

@anti-pope: look I think heroes characters are all 4d by default, as they transcend spacetime, and Mechikabura is 5d as he was immune to everything they threw at him, and only the keysword affected him. Now you might say "How is Mechikabura 5d?" I'll tell you: "Because he was hit with what he had resisted before", i.e. power null and sealing. He was hit with something on his dimensional level, otherwise, it wouldn't have worked on him.

@anti-pope: @ruksos: You both are not understanding

Demigra was going to destroy all of dragon ball history which is infinite.

2-A: Multiverse level+

Characters who are capable of significantly affecting^[1], creating and/or destroying a countably infinite number of space-time continuums.

and on top of that he can transform 2 times each is atleast 50x the multiplier if i'm correct that makes demigra solid high multiversal+ level as he was threatening whole dragon ball heroes Multiverse made up of infinite amount of timelines and each timeline has 18 macrocosms where 1 macrocosm=4.5x OR 9x larger than out own universe and the world of void which is a infinite space

By scaling alone he would destroy a whole Multiverse 100x in one go and BASE xeno goku was on par with him.

That's a solid low complex Multiversal feat and XG have 5 transformation and can amplify kaioken x100 on top of any form.

Let's just assume ssj4 limit breaker multiplier is 40000 with kaiokan x100=40100

means he can destroy a whole Multiverse 40100x over in one go at his full power.

and Machikabura was fighting a Xeno gogeta ssj4 and he called his power "LIKE A BABY" compared to him.

From here Mechikabura should be atleast 7D-8D.

Ruksos you tell me each layer has a infinite universe right. and there are like infinite layers according to you. That would be hyperversal.

infinite x infinite universes = hyperverse = 11D

multiplying x infinite universes = complex multiverse - 6D-10D

@supersonictl: I said that for Anos. I just don't think raw power increases your dimensionality. Mechikabura seeing ssj4 gogeta as a baby doesn't necessarily mean his power is on a whole other dimension. But base Xeno Goku should be 4d though. And ssj4 limit breaker should be 5d. How strong is ssj4 gogeta compared to ssj4 limit breakers? I guess Mechikabura could be 6d.

Yeah you are right BUT that only applies from 1D to 5D after that there comes complex Multiverse range in which you can become complex Multiverse just by powering up with Multipliers. Each Multipliers stack on Multiverse+ level is going to make you in complex Multiverse range.

just like how destroying 2 universe to 1001 makes you low multiversal.

Just like that Stacking Multipliers on multiverses makes you complex multiversal its not a rocket sciene there are level of powers you need to surpass to become complex mulktiversal

the true infinity comes in hyperverse level beings which is infinite x infinite Multiverse+

And let me remind you being born in a dimensions doesn't mean your are restricted to that level XG, demigra and mechikabura throughout all their battles get powerups which makes there attack potency low complex multiverse.

@ruksos: Most of the people agrees that XG is indeed 6D and even the likes of vsbattle who is known to have a grudge against dragon ball characters atleast put them at MULTIVERSE+ level and you are here giving him 4D rank. like seriously just to protect anos you can't just downplay the other character.

@supersonictl: dude anos has like countless universes x countless layers, how am I protecting him?

@ruksos: NO NO NO NO that's not what i meant its like whenever you wanted to make someone win sometimes you downplay the other character however in this case is different.

@ruksos: so its like this:

anos (Light Novel)>>>Mechikabura>>Xeno Goku>anos(anime/manga)

Right???

@supersonictl: I guess so, yeah.

@ruksos: So anos is just like rimuru anime version is weak while novel version is op.

@ruksos: @chasekilleen: @anti-pope:@d1vine_:@gelato_exotic:

Demigra was causing the collapse of the entire Dragon Ball multiverse, the Crack of Time and his evil energy transcended space and the Dragon Ball world. The Heroes world contains 3 extra-dimensional spaces. Breaking the boundaries between dimensions to reach the Overworld, a dimension which views Dragon Ball as fiction. Beat has to become an avatar to enter the Heroes world

Here is the debunk of your debunk.

And this is coming from the guy who read every single chapter of dbh and not even a debater. Now you can't just say "hE iS lYiNg OmG lIaR"

You said that beats is the grandson of Goku but the scans i got indicating he is the avatar. He is human but in avatar state he is a saiyan and NO!!! he is not the grandson of Goku.

The beats world is a three extra dimensional space.

Now enjoy the salt.

@ruksos: @chasekilleen: @anti-pope:@d1vine_:@gelato_exotic:

Now there you all go by scaling, by feats and by statement Xeno Goku and other Xeno Characters are 6D.

It is proven by scans that beats world is 3 extra-dimensional space and he was a avatar not a saiyan.

Do you really think other debaters are stupid to put beats world feats everywhere in the forums i always knew there was an explanation.

@supersonictl: dimensional tiering means nothing, being "6d" means nothing if someone has better feats than you

@ruksos: @chasekilleen: @anti-pope:@d1vine_:@gelato_exotic:

And Xeno Goku only just assumed that beat's world is future version of themself. Xeno Goku is not omniscent.

@ruksos: @chasekilleen: @anti-pope:@d1vine_:@gelato_exotic:

And the way beats got ssgss is through leveling up just like in XenoVerse we have to level up to unlock transformations.

@supersonictl: none of this matters. characters with better feats and hax than xeno goku can still beat him. he doesn't win by virtue of being "omniscient" "6d" or "outerversal"

@d1vine_: IK but i'm debunking anti-pops claim on Xeno characters are only 4D and beats world isn't real.

@d1vine_: Tbh dimensionality only being used to scale a character because they are Born in that dimension.

Well this fight is about anime/manga anos and Xeno Goku.

And tbh anime version of anos is weak so Xeno Goku takes it.

If it was light novel version of anos who is infinite-D due to scaling to silver sea. He shit stomps the whole dbh verse.

@supersonictl: anime Anos still has high-godly regen and demon eyes of ruin/venuzdonoa you know, but he's greatly weakened, so yes Xeno Goku stomps anime Anos (with the keysword/super shenron).

@ruksos: I don't know anything about Infinite Dimension but can u tell me?

@just_naufal: the silver sea contains countless universes x countless dimensions, which could also be said to be infinite.

Anos one shots with his logic busting sword

@ruksos: so because of capable of destroying infinite dimensions, he is Infinite D?

LN Anos one shots so hard that its not even funny.

@just_naufal: yes (though he's at least countless d though).

Don't care if this is a month old Xeno Goku flicks Anos.

After knowing more of Anos(or Anus from me) from more knowledgeable people, I can safely say that canon Goku blinks. Xeno Goku is beyond the concept of spite.

Lucifer blinks both

@king2000: Anos blinks the verse.

Goku statues, negates his regen, beats the shit out of him, then wishes him out of existence with super shenron.

Perfect Cell oneshots this planet level fodder let alone Xeno Goku Anos gets blinked

Planet level fodder VS complex multiversal char. Kek, wonder who wins. Goku blinks.

@areneacaulem: Do you at least know of Goku's hax, or...

Goku blitzes and keysword+super shenron=gg

That is insulting to Goku, he doesn't need that. Miracle Ci is enough.

@areneacaulem: Still fodder to Goku. He curbed Demigra, who is on that level. Has reality warping with Super Shenron, Key Sword which seals higher dimensional beings, probability manipulation, time manipulation, and many other stuff. By feats. Not gonna trust that stuff for Anos. World or Sekai=/=universe and multiverse. OT: Krillin oneshots.

@areneacaulem: First, with all due respect, this is VSBW shit. Second, I still read world. And world=/=fucking universe. In DB, universe is called universe. Multiverse is called multiverse. Goku blitzes Anos by feats, and seals him. Anos has no counter for the Key Sword, claiming otherwise is NLF. And I still see no counter for multiversal+ reality warping, SS can just wish him out of existence.