Android 18 and Android 17 vs Omega/Nuova Shenron and Super Saiyan 4 Goku/Vegeta

VS

Anime, Manga, and Game feats

Win by KO or Death

Random Encounter

No fusion

Bump

Android 17 solos. He was trading blows with SSB Goku.

Unless something in the games makes this fair.

This is a stomp in favor of Goku and Omega Shenron

How? Android 17 was keeping up with SSB Goku, GoD Toppo and a suppressed/weakened Jiren.

@takenstew22: Wait is this DB Super Androids?

If this is DBS Androids then 17 solos

@floridaman29: If it wasn't this would obviously be a mismatch in favor of team 2.

Well then either android solos

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@moneyyjunee: @floridaman29: @el_mago: @takenstew22: I edited it

@kasya_carey: Duo still wins.

right now tough one goku and vegeta could just fuse and end this battle however maybe the androids have the slight edge on here do to feats....

He is clearly inferior to them all though.

I know but it's still impressive.

But its hard to determine how strong he is based of that.

17 is close to that level but he is still weaker. And a big thing about his usefulness seems to be unlimited energy

Looks like now it can go either way but:

Before we go any further, what are the best feats Omega, ss4 Goku and Vegeta have to offer?

@floridaman29: https://youtu.be/mVXdYMLihLA

Well with the fusion and Omega's speed they should pull it off I guess, and you'd think by that point the fight would range several planets rather than a city but idk.

Android 17 Solos

17 solos through scaling

No one in GT is Universal

Going by the logic that anyone who fights DBS Goku is Universal, then I guess Krillin also sudenly became billions of times stronger in the timespan of a couple of years after capping out at planetary for about a decade.

That's just DBS' shit scaling/PIS. It's almost no different then Frieza becoming god tier after a few months.

Yeah, you're right.

@orangecrush81: I thought the strongest in GT were universal

@kasya_carey: they are

Omega Shenron and SSJ4 Gogeta are arguably universal. That's it.

Not that I'm aware of.

The only hint at Universal, was Goku's "Universal "Spirit Bomb

Android 17 Feats

Held his own with a holding back SSB Goku who I COULD scale to just above full power super saiyan god level

Held his own with G.O.D Toppo (Who is SSBE level)

Managed to get a huge blow on Jiren (Supressed)

Android 18 Feats

Overpowered and defeated Super Saiyan Vegeta fairly easily once she got serious

Forced Super Saiyan Trunks and Goten to try to avoid her attacks

Comparable to others such as Tien, who can destroy large amounts of the katchin arena, making them superior to Base Gohan during the Buu Saga

Can easily keep up with Vegeta who is easily flt+

Superior to Krillin and faster than before

Broke Vegeta's arm with a kick

Tanked many attacks from Vegeta and Future Trunks' sword broke against her arm

They both have limitless energy aswell.

Hope this helped!

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