Ancient Sith vs Modern Jedi

Ancient Sith: Exar Kun, Naga Sadow, Marka Ragnos and Freedon Nadd

Modern Jedi: Anakin Skywalker (ROTS), Mace Windu (ROTS), Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS) and Luke Skywalker (ROTJ)

Rules:

- In character

- Perfect teamwork

- Fight takes place on Korriban

• Ancient Sith start at the red arrow
• Modern Jedi start at the blue arrow

Callouts

Apologies if you were called out and weren't interested or weren't called out and were interested

Team 1's packing way too much raw power for Team 2, in particular Luke and Obi, to handle.

Yea......this is quite unbalanced

the chosen one and his son plus mace windu???? I m not familiar with the others on team one but it seems like a stomp on team 2s favor

What this guy said.

@blackjax137: Not a particularly good comparison, since Sadow could only operate his star-busting powers using the Corsair, and under those conditions, even Aleema Keto could manage such a feat.

But team 1 wins if they manage to abuse their power(s), which is likely to happen if they lose sabers.

Ragnos walks into the room. Everyone dies. The End.

Marka Ragnos could win this by himself. Nadd and Kun could duo team.

Naga Sadow was able to use his force lightning to cause a red supergiant called Primus Goluud to go supernova, and was terrified of Ragnos. Vitiate was admittedly inferior to him, even recognising him as a major threat when he came back to our Galaxy, at a time when Ragnos was long dead and a spirit

Korriban is also a huge advantage, especialy for Ragnos, he ruled there for hundreds of years and should be able to use the souls of dead sith, as well as the potent dark side powere there for a massive amp

@sasukemilesmorales: Luke had not lived up to his full potential at this point and neither had Anakin. Mace Windu was powerful but his area of expertise is Lightsaber duels which only Kun will ingage in, and Kun is far more poweful than Windu in the force. Obi-Wan is severely outclassed in both power and skill

Naga Sadow was able to bust stars with empowered force lightning and was scared of Ragnos. Vitiate, a Sideous level being was also scared of Ragnos. Nadd had a lot of raw force power and Kun was regarded as the strongest duelist of his era, and invented the double bladed lightsaber. In addition he was regarded by Luke as being Sideous level.

The Jedi team is just severely outclassed in power and skill. You are right that Luke and Anakin are nothing to scoff at, but neither of them are powerful enough to fight top tier sith lords like the ones on team one in these versions. Grandmaster Luke (Luke at his best, after the defeat of the empire in the Legends universse) and Darth Vader would be another story, but this is not those versions

On Korriban? Really?

Sith win.

Team 1 superstomp. I have the feeling ancient sith/jedi are stronger than the modern ones...

I'd love some feats for them old sith!

@decaf_wizard: You realise Marka Ragnos, Freedon Nadd, and Karness Muur are all but confirmed to be as powerful as each other. Exar Kun being more powerful than any of those three himself.

Anyway ancient Sith can wreck house with the Force.

@sithrevenant: How is Sadow above Ragnos? Sadow being stronger than Ragnos makes no sense, when he groveled at the mere sight of his spirit, and Vitate himself admited that Ragnos would be a serious threat to him, even when long dead.

Exar Kun is above Maarka Ragnos by feats, so il have to give you that, its just that I personaly think he is stronger based off his interactions with Vitate.

Plus the fight shouldnt be on Korriban. Putting Sadow, Kun and Ragnos on Korriban is too much of an amp. The amount of dark side energy and ancient sith magic there is too great, and they could explot the crap out of it, especialy because Ragnos and Sadow put half of it there themselves

Jeez, way to favor the ancients on this one. Team one would win handily

Sith.

Sith team.

team 1 isnt even in the movies, lol they aint cannon so tey automaticly sucks

any one of the ancients could solo

Modern Jedi wins with medium difficulty.

Anakin stalemates Kun.

Mace beats Freedon Nadd.

Obi Wan beats Naga Sadow.

Don't know a lot about Marka Ragnos, but if he holds parity with the likes of Sadow or Nadd, then Luke stalemates him, long enough for one of the others to come to his aid.

Jedi win with moderate to high difficulty.

Sith

Team one still wins.

heh

@echostarlord117 Nope, they don't.

heh

Reasons?

Mace could take anyone on the team, as could Anakin. However, Luke and Obi-Wan simply aren't powerful enough to contend in the Force, though they put up a good fight.

Team 1 is horribly outmatched in lightsaber combat, but team 2 is horribly outmatched in the force. Depends if team 1 can abuse their power if they can, team 1 if not team two

Bump:

Team 1 slaughterhouse. Even the weakest member of their team (Sadow) is Sidious-tier, meanwhile team 2 only has one guy on that level(Windu). Obi-Wan, Luke and Anakin here by feats are closer to the Council than they are to team 1 and are one-shottable fodder.

This isn't fairly balanced at all. Force wise, Jedi are outmatched by considerable margin. Besides that, making it take place on Korriban makes more unfair than it already it is.

To put it simply, Team 1 murderstomps.

In pure lightsaber combat, the only one who could possibly last more then ten seconds is Exar Kun. But the thing is, most of Team 1 are force-based, and any of them severely overpower Team 2 in raw power/skill (to what Anakin was at the time), and that's not even mentioning Sith Sorcery hax.

And then you put them on a DS Force Nexus.