@richard96: About the Lucas quote, LOTL already addressed it. I was about to say what he said, basically.
I don't even get what LOTL is arguing tbh, it's self explanatory. "From then on he wasn't as strong as the emperor" implies he was previously as strong as the emperor, it's not that hard to grasp tbh.
Caedus got ambushed and cheapshotted ad the beginning, yet he managed to hurt badly Luke who was bloodlusted.
Given Caedus immediately retaliates with a kick that hits Luke the surprise advantage would have worn off, Jacen still got brutally humiliated by Luke right after.
The quote about Saba is from Jacen’s POV, hence subjective and not definitive. He could have understimated himself.
You do realise Caedus is incredibly arrogant right, it's a character trait of his yet despite this he's confident in Saba's ability to give him a good fight.
After being caught completely off guard and with his force defenses lowered.
I notice you failed to address the point about Luke merely tapping the chair with his power and then Caedus becomes completely unable to TK it, his efforts being humiliating failures. In other words a mere "tap" from Luke is enough to refute Caedus's TK in its entirety. As a counter to your argument you'd be correct in saying Caedus was caught off guard but the fact is that Luke continues to hold him there with a fraction of his power and doesn't even try, having a several minute conversation with Caedus unable to move a millimetre the entire time. Do you think Sidious can effortlessly pin Yoda to a chair for several minutes without fail with a mere fraction of his power just because he gets the surprise advantage. It's not the ragdolling but rather the fact that it's maintained despite Caedus's best efforts for several minutes without trying. How anyone can read the passage and come to the conclusion Caedus is anything more than an insect to Luke is beyond me.
That never happened, cause if would have happened Caedus would have died there. Luke was going for the kill, with the surprise effect advantage, yet he could have kill Jacen only after a prolonged fight.
Already addressed the surprise advantage, and no Luke didn't kill him because Caedus had an anchor to pull himself to with telekinesis, something not available on neutral playing field.