Anakin Skywalker vs Count Dooku (Who is a better duelist)

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Poll Anakin Skywalker vs Count Dooku (Who is a better duelist) (34 votes)

Anakin 47%
Dooku 41%
Equal 12%

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Who is the better lightsaber duelist?

- Canon versions are used.

- Anakin's version is the one after the Invisible Hand but before his turn to the dark side.

- This is not about who would win in a fight but simply who is the better duelist?

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Probably Dooku, he has decades more experience, and has held his own against both Anakin & Obi-Wan together more than once.

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#2 Supreme101  Online

Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

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Anakin literally beat him in a duel...

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#4  Edited By hugejonumber

@supreme101 said:

Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

The ROTS novelization makes it clear that Anakin won because of his far superior strength and speed as well as the dark side amp, not necessarily because of superior dueling skill.

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Dooku.

Anakin and stronger,but Dooku is better duelist.

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#6 CatMan6  Online

Dooku if this is just Anakin and not Vader. Vader is a better duelist tho

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An old debate, but no less intriguing for it. I would think that, in regards to the films and television series, generally speaking Count Dooku is the better duelist; if you broaden your comparison to account for how these two men perform in their various duels with the other swordfighters out there, the Count comes across as more impressive. Particularly so when it comes to handling Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, and of course, few bouts are as spectacular as the Count's clash with Grand Master Yoda on Geonosis. Anakin Skywalker is a cunning warrior, younger, and even stronger in the Force -- overall, a more effective enforcer for the Emperor -- but he is not as experienced, adroit, or wise as the senior Dark Lord and former Jedi Master. As has been documented in various behind-the-scenes books, such as The Making of Revenge of the Sith, Count Dooku was holding back against Skywalker in their duel aboard the Invisible Hand -- theirs was to be a contest of competing strength, not an all-out struggle to the death; the Count would not follow through with any advantage that came his way, rather allowing Skywalker to escape, unharmed, to fight another day. Even under such constraints, Count Dooku demonstrated his graceful mastery of the old style with considerable efficiency, repeatedly outmaneuvering both Skywalker and Master Kenobi before the fight eventually came down to an intense one-on-one, that the increasingly tired elder ultimately lost. In the grand scheme of things, as a swordmaster, the Count is probably second only to the likes of Mace Windu, Yoda, and Emperor Palpatine.

When it comes to the Expanded Universe of Star Wars Legends, it's really just a question of approach. Count Dooku is a seasoned lightsaber-to-lightsaber specialist of the highest order, considered without equal in the old style of fencing -- a consummate duelist, methodical, stylish, sharp. Anakin Skywalker on the other hand is a warrior, a swordfighter of preeminent calibre, foremost among the Jedi Order's combatants. He is fast and strong like no other -- dominant, bold, smooth. They'll be better off than each other in certain situations against certain opponents, but overall, Skywalker is the best the Jedi Order has to offer, and probably unmatched by any Sith Lord before him.

In the Extended Universe of current canon, the advantage should lay in favour of Anakin Skywalker. Count Dooku is supposed to be one of the finest swordsmen in galactic history, and can hold his own against the chief fighters, but Skywalker is a contender for the absolute top slot in a way that the Count presently is not. To that end, most sources tasked with covering their final rematch give the nodd to Skywalker, largely free of any particular circumstance, and often decisively.

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Anakin.

Level 9>8

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Power directly correlates with dueling prowess in Canon, even though sources mostly attribute Anakin's victory to power, that only means he's by extension the better duelist

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#12  Edited By Supreme101  Online

@hugejonumber: savage tried using brute force see how well that worked for him….. Anakin is clearly more skilled especially with how he takes down dooku in the first place if he were just ooga booga punch character that wouldn’t have worked for him

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#13  Edited By Lord_Tenebrous

@sonofdarkness said:

Anakin.

Level 9>8

If you recall, it is the dark side that allows Anakin Skywalker to "cheat" his way to enlightenment; without this shortcut -- which is the specific incarnation of Skywalker being used in this thread -- Skywalker is level 8, like Count Dooku, Darth Maul, and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Better than Master Kenobi within level 8? Sure. Probably better than the Count within that level, as well -- have you seen Nick Gillard's YouTube channel? Originally, George Lucas envisioned the climatic showdown between Darth Tyranus and Anakin Skywalker as just one huge duel, without the presence of Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Gillard has been generous enough to post clips of the original fight -- it's phenomenal.

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@hugejonumber:

Your taste in representing character pictures is commendable.

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#15  Edited By Eredin12  Online

KFV is definitely better duelist, but Light Side Anakin and Count are close.

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Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

Vader beat Tyranus, Anakin did not.

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@lord_tenebrous: true I didn’t realize this was base ROTS Anakin.

And yeah I’ve seen the clips they’re pretty awesome. That one move where he lets go of the saber and then catches it is fantastic. Can’t believe they cut that out.

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@a_fine_edition: an angry Anakin using the darkside, is more or less Vader.

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Anakin.

Level 9>8

not only are the levels nonsense in canon, the Count has enough showings to put him as a 9 in EU, the only statement to the contrary is an Email quote from Gillard talking about AOTC Dooku.

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I think Dooku might beat out Anakin if he took the fight seriously and didn't toy or underestimate like he did in RotS.

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They're rlly close but dooku takes a slight majority

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@supreme101 said:

Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

Vader beat Tyranus, Anakin did not.

F is you on about

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@maulsmacker said:
@supreme101 said:

Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

Vader beat Tyranus, Anakin did not.

F is you on about

Anakin was tapping into the darkside when he beat dooku, however he still had Jedi restraint so he's beneath mfv, but far above Jedi Anakin who is =<dooku

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It's canon. They're equal duelists.

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#26  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

dooku fans being objectively wrong

anakin obviously

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@maulsmacker said:
@supreme101 said:

Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

Vader beat Tyranus, Anakin did not.

F is you on about

@supreme101 said:
@maulsmacker said:
@supreme101 said:

Anakin by miles. He literally beat him what argument can you make for Dooku.

Vader beat Tyranus, Anakin did not.

F is you on about

Anakin was tapping into the darkside when he beat dooku, however he still had Jedi restraint so he's beneath mfv, but far above Jedi Anakin who is =<dooku

Anakin used the darkside and his Anger to kill Dooku, that's effectively Vader, the thread is Jedi anakin, rage amp and darkside feats are not usable.

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@maulsmacker: That's not the same thing though. Anakin was still a Jedi when he beat Dooku, and he wasn't fully immersed in the Dark Side like he ended up being later.

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#29  Edited By MaulSmacker

@a_fine_edition: he was not a full blown sith yet but the power he had was more or less the same as Knightfall Vader, his ideals were not quite Vader yet but his usage of darkside is the same thing Vader does.

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@a_fine_edition: mfv does beat zonanakin (high difficulty), however zonanakin isn't base Jedi Anakin, who is slightly worse than dooku

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#31  Edited By A_FINE_EDITION

@maulsmacker: The ideals are the key to having that power though imo. Even after disarming Dooku he struggles with killing him and only seems to do so because Palpatine pushed him. That's not the same as marching into the temple of your allies and slaughtering them all, children included, with almost zero hesitation. There's no Jedi restraint anymore when he becomes Vader. I also wouldn't say he was as hate-fueled as he was when he became Vader.

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Anakin.

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@maulsmacker: The ideals are the key to having that power though imo. Even after disarming Dooku he struggles with killing him and only seems to do so because Palpatine pushed him. That's not the same as marching into the temple of your allies and slaughtering them all, children included, with almost zero hesitation. There's no Jedi restraint anymore when he becomes Vader. I also wouldn't say he was as hate-fueled as he was when he became Vader.

Yes, mfv isnt hindered by Jedi restraint and has order 66 boost so he's better than zonanakin, all Anakin does on ih is use the darkside like vos does in DD

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@supreme101 said:

@hugejonumber: savage tried using brute force see how well that worked for him….. Anakin is clearly more skilled especially with how he takes down dooku in the first place if he were just ooga booga punch character that wouldn’t have worked for him

Savage was not as fast as dark side amped Anakin though. Also it's possible for Anakin to be a bit less skilled than Dooku but to still win due to overwhelming strength and speed.

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#35 Supreme101  Online

@hugejonumber: Even Anakin's skill was stated above dooku. Anakin's anger wasn't even the main contributor hell he was busy even controlling it to prevent himself from snapping and losing control.

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I say equal. Its too close for me to take either side.

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The one who cut the others head off on screen is the better duelist lets not overthink this lol.

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I always felt like the whole Point was Tyranus was always a way better Duelist However Anakin is simply just stronger and younger.

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Dooku slightly

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Assuming this is rots Anakin I'm gonna have to say Dooku. Close fight still but at this point Anakin is still only beginning to figure out his full potential. Dooku has better feats up until this point that this Anakin would not be able to replicate, Dooku also has way more experience

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I think it depends on how you define duelist. Dooku from a sheer swordsman lense is the best in the entire order peered to only Mace + Yoda. From his chosen style which litterally is designed to be precise with tight foot work and ability to embarass another less refined style. Anakin incorporates his overall gifts into a saber style. Incredible force resevers, nearly unmatched connection to the force meshed with youth, confidence + strength make it so Anakin becomes a weapon of mass destruction as an entire package.

As a duelist alone I would say Dooku.