@echostarlord117:
What are you talking about? Pain definitely has ways to deal with their power and speed, especially the Deva Path. For one, they’re extremely durable and immune to physical pain so nearly anything the Jedi throw at them using TK won’t be enough to hurt the Paths.
Force Choke would work fine. So would exploding organs which Anakin can do.
They're. Corpses. They don't need to breath and none of their organs are functioning. Anakin can crush their organs all he wants. It won't do much. As for using Force Crush...
@shadowwaker said:
Anakin has never used Force Crush against an opponent as durable as Pain as far as I know. Just because he Force Crushed fodder doesn't mean he can just instacrush every one of the Paths.
The only way Anakin can one-shot the Paths is if he pulls out the Black Receivers embedded in their bodies, but considering how it took Naruto all his strength plus direct help from Kurama to pull just one out, I doubt Anakin could do it.
On top of that, while fighting the Jedi up close might be a bad idea, they’re more than fast and skilled enough to keep their distance at least for a bit. Hell, the Animal Path alone would do a fantastic job at keeping the Jedi at bay.
The Animals get one shotted by lightsabers. I mean, look at the comics and cartoon series feats. Large animals would get decimated.
Lol The summoned beasts aren't just large animals. They have speed feats rivaling top-tier shinobi. On top of that, different beasts can do different things. For example, the Animal Path can summon hydra dogs that multiply when attacked/damaged. The only way they can be defeated is by defeating the summoner, and that's only one summon. She can keep spamming massive beasts non-stop so even if some of the beasts get one-shot, that won't necessarily be a problem. While I personally think the Jedi could handle it, them getting overwhelmed is a very serious possibility, especially when considering the other five Paths.
That is if they have a chance to summon if this fight starts close combat off the bat.
Summoning takes an instant for the Animal Path. No hand sign or blood sacrifice is necessary. She'll have a chance for sure.
Frankly, I’d be willing to wager that due to Nagato’s/Deva Path’s reaction feats, they could legitimately give even Anakin trouble in CQC.
If the skill gap and force precog was not at play, then sure. Though how does that slow ass Gravity blast that needs recharge time afterward is a good counter in close combat battles is beyond me.
The skill gap is there, but it's not enough for any member of the Star Wars team to just curb stomp Pain in CQC.
Pain was able to effortlessly dodge any and all of Hinata's attacks. Keep in mind that she is easily one of the best H2H fighters of all the Leaf shinobi. She was only able to tag him when Nagato's connection to the Deva Path was interrupted.
As far as the "slow ass recharge time," it's not that slow. Lol You're exaggerating. Even if five seconds is ridiculously slow, Pain uses it with expert timing. I mean, he is aware of the recharge time after all, so he makes sure to use it at the right time. This is blatantly obvious in any of his fights where the recharge time isn't actually as crippling as it might seem at first.
I think you're also ignoring the fact that the Almighty Push likely has a far greater destructive capacity than even Anakin's TK. As far as I know, Anakin can't level a large town with a Force Push. Considering how it's almost a guarantee for at least one of the Jedi to get hit by an Almighty Push, I'd be worried about how well they could handle such a powerful blow.
... what hax? The only two ways the Jedi can win is via TK and good old CQC. If anyone has hax, it’s Pain. Power negation, summons, resurrection, soul extraction, etc.
I agree Pain is way more versatile. Does not change the fact he is outclass horribly in CQC scenario,
He isn't horribly outclassed, though. Yes, the Jedi have a pretty big advantage when it comes to CQC both in terms of skill and gear, but they'd still have to work for a win in that department. You know Pain isn't just going to stand there. As I've shown above, he has the speed and skill to handle expert fighters in close range, at least long enough for either another Path to help out or the Almighty Push to recharge.
and does not change the fact the TK attacks by Anakin are superior to any rang attack in effectiveness and speed.
I disagree. Summons, lasers and missiles, and powerful pushes and pulls all point to the Paths having better range capabilities.
LAWL at claiming that the Jedi have better range capabilities. Not only does Pain have TK, he also can shoot dozens of missiles and lasers, and can summon multiple enormous beasts at will.
Pains TK is slow acting and has laughable recharge time.
What do you mean by slow acting? Once it charges, the Almighty Push is instant.
Anakin can wave a hand and drop all the 6 bodies at once if he desires too.
This kind of nonsense is why people have a bias against Star Wars debaters sometimes. You're wanking Anakin to infinity and beyond, dude. Even if Anakin's TK is far superior to Pain's, which in many ways it is, how on Earth could he "drop all the 6 bodies at once?"
Not wanking shit when Anakin can explode organs of people as stated before or just off the bat force choke them all. Something he has done many times.
The only chance Pain has is if we ignore Anakins ability to do so, then sure, pain wins a range fight lol. That is if we ignore Anakin's ability. Good job.
They're. Corpses. They don't need to breath and none of their organs are functioning. Anakin can crush their organs all he wants. It won't do much.
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