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#1  Edited By APEX_pretador

Superman:

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Superman has access to:

  • Pre 52, new 52 and rebirth feats
  • 1 hour sundipping
  • Green Lantern ring (Allowed SMPOM feats with GL ring)
  • Mjolnir
  • Cap's shield
  • Fully healed after every round
  • Bloodlust and fully ready to use his super speed and all abilities for whatever it takes to kill
  • Psionic inhibitor (For last two rounds to protect him from TP)
  • Three seconds prep

(Superman has used all those things in the past)

Rules:

  • Standard current versions unless stated otherwise
  • DC Characters are allowed pre 52 and new 52 unamped feats unless stated otherwise
  • Characters are in character, but they know they need to win except Illuminati are bloodlusted
  • Fight on planet mercury, which can't be destroyed (It has the oxygen atmosphere)
  • Start 150m away

The Gauntlet:

  1. The Avengers:
    Hulk (Indestructible), Hyperion, Carol Captain Marvel
  2. The Justice League:
    Flash (new 52 Barry), Plastic Man, Wonder Woman, Aquaman
  3. The Annililators:
    Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Ikon the spaceknight
  4. Pre 52 Darkseid
  5. Hunter Prey Doomsday
  6. Death Seed Sentry
  7. Silver Surfer and Quasar
  8. Cyborg Superman with 10 SC rings , Sinestro with 2 SC rings and Kyle Rayner GL
  9. Annihilation army (Nova prime, Ronan, Firelord, Stardust, Air Walker)
  10. Bloodlusted Illuminati (Reed Richards, Iron Man, Black Bolt, Dr Strange, T'Challa Black Panther, Namor the submariner, Professor X)
    Tony is allowed all armors feats except his destroyer armor, uru armor, Thorbuster armor , Namor is water dipped and wearing his full hydration suit.
  11. Thanos (pre secret wars)

Can Superman clear this Gauntlet?

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H/P Doomsday is too low, Superman wouldn't be able to kill him (unless BFR by Mjolnir to the end of time). Discounting Doomsday, he'd probably make it to 10.

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Stops at Death Seed Sentry

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Assuming no draining, stop at 9.

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No way in hell am I touching this.

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Hr doesn't, illuminati shouldn't be a problem for him , could stop at 10

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H/P Doomsday is too low, Superman wouldn't be able to kill him (unless BFR by Mjolnir to the end of time). Discounting Doomsday, he'd probably make it to 10.

Assuming that Doomsday can't be killed other than by throwing at the end of time is a massive NLF. And win by death isn't the only condition here.

Assuming no draining, stop at 9.

Draining is not disallowed but Thor's hammer is a hard counter to it.

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Wouldnt DSS just come back even if manages to somehow destroy his physical form? i think stops at dss

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This is one instance Clark clears with Mjolnir ring and shield nobody's stopping him

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This is a really cool gauntlet. The Illuminaty should be lower I believe, Dr Strange aside, they really can't do much to such an amped Supes.

Superman did defeat Darkseid when he was near the sun but that may have just been an instance of classical jobbing for DS so I'm not sure it really can say much regarding people like Thanos...I'm really not sure but I like this gauntlet

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This is a really cool gauntlet. The Illuminaty should be lower I believe, Dr Strange aside, they really can't do much to such an amped Supes.

Superman did defeat Darkseid when he was near the sun but that may have just been an instance of classical jobbing for DS so I'm not sure it really can say much regarding people like Thanos...I'm really not sure but I like this gauntlet

Darkseid is not Thanos though. And apart from versatility, darkseid was mostly written as near equal to superman. That's implied from his several fights with superman, Orion, etc and many statements form both sides.

Wouldnt DSS just come back even if manages to somehow destroy his physical form? i think stops at dss

Win is possible by any means though. If he can find any means for taking out DSS, whether it is BFR, taking him into sun, incapicitation.

This is one instance Clark clears with Mjolnir ring and shield nobody's stopping him

He also has sundip, gren lantern ring and bloodlust here.

So you think he clears with ease?

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#14  Edited By Ouroborik

@apex_pretador: I know that, I just kinda see the sundip as a justification for Superman beating Darkseid because I refuse to believe that a being supposed to be one of the biggest threats to the Universe can get solo'ed by a single Kryptonian...but unfortunately he can...

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@apex_pretador: Except that was the only way they found to kill him. Either way, nothing Superman can output with Mjolnir and a GL ring would kill DD.

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@apex_pretador: I know that, I just kinda see the sundip as a justification for Superman beating Darkseid because I refuse to believe that a being supposed to be one of the biggest threats to the Universe can get solo'ed by a single Kryptonian...but unfortunately he can...

Well, to be fair, the very few characters confirmed physically stronger than Superman in pre 52 like Doomsday , Superboy prime and Larleeze. In pure physical strength, Superman is one of the most powerful DC characters.

As for darkseid beating superman, well he has shown the ability to transmutate things into kryptonite, so he should never lose to Superman.

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Stops at four or five IMO

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@apex_pretador:

Are the avengers amped and blood lusted as well , or are they in character?

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Aren't these types of threads banned? I swear that was a battle boards rule.

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@lvenger: They are. Superman wouldn't know how to use some of these tools as effectively as their actual wielders anyways.

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@lvenger said:

Aren't these types of threads banned? I swear that was a battle boards rule.

Superman has used everyone of these amps. Giving characters amps they never had is what is banned.

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@apex_pretador: He's technically never sundipped for an hour nor used a Green Lantern ring properly in canon.

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@lvenger said:

@apex_pretador: He's technically never sundipped for an hour nor used a Green Lantern ring properly in canon.

He used Green Lantern ring in DC one Million.

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#24  Edited By Lvenger

@apex_pretador: Superman One Million did, not standard Pre Flashpoint Superman.

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@lvenger said:

@apex_pretador: Superman One Million did, not standard Pre Flashpoint Superman.

He was still pre flashpoint superman though, but with added sundip and extra experience.

He is allowed to use those feats from the ring. (I'll edit the OP)

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@sly_141: a durable enough shield and hammer with supes speed, reactions, and strength, regardless of what they are, should prove to be effective no matter how you look at it. I doubt supes would even think to use the hammers more mystical properties, besides the return effect the hammer has when thrown. The only one that really would require training is the gl ring, but hasn't supes had a gl before? I think they stop at SS/quasar.

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He's still not beating HP Dooms.

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@firsthunter: Unless order seriously messes up with Superman's progress, there is no problem with that.

Also, you need to elaborate more on that.

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@phillip33: Supes doesn't have the training/willpower to use the GL ring in a manner like Hal Kyle or some of the top tier Green Lanterns here.

He also has only ever wielded Mjolnir in a crossover and I doubt he be able to tap into its more mystical abilities here.

As for Caps shield he wouldn't be able to throw it around with the same skill as Rogers. He could use to block attacks and as blunt weapon though.

I never said the weapons wouldn't help him. I just said that he couldn't use them to their full potential that's all.

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#33  Edited By SirNeko

Stopst at 2, Flash speed force dumps before Superman can touch him.

Also it's against the rules to give Superman random items he can't use like GL ring and Mjolnir.

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#34  Edited By phillip33

@sly_141: supes doesn't need training to utilize the inherent abilities of the ring, and I'd say supes has more than ample willpower. On the hammer I agree as I mentioned before but it's a significant striking power amp as the shield is a defense amp. The ring would help shield supes from tp and the like too. And yeah he's not gonna be able to throw out God blasts or planetary gl constructs but it's still a sizeable amp regardless.

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#36  Edited By APEX_pretador

@sirneko said:

Stopst at 2, Flash speed force dumps before Superman can touch him.

Also it's against the rules to give Superman random items he can't use like GL ring and Mjolnir.

Superman has used both.

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@apex_pretador:

Unless order seriously messes up with Superman's progress,

It does

Also, you need to elaborate more on that.

Doomsday and Darkseid shouldn't be so low.

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@phillip33: I think we are saying the same thing just differently. I agree that the amps would help him out just not to the degree that they would if he knew had to use them as well as CA, Thor and GL did respectively.

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@firsthunter: Are you implying doomsday and darkseid should be above surfer and quasar, and superman can't beat them?

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#40  Edited By FirstHunter

@apex_pretador said:

@firsthunter: Are you implying doomsday and darkseid should be above surfer and quasar, and superman can't beat them?

Yes. Maybe Supes can beat DS but not DD.

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Could stop anywhere from 6 to 8 (considering he's never used some objects). I'd say he stops the mayority at 9, though.

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#43  Edited By SirNeko

@apex_pretador said:
@sirneko said:

Stopst at 2, Flash speed force dumps before Superman can touch him.

Also it's against the rules to give Superman random items he can't use like GL ring and Mjolnir.

Superman has used both.

When did he use a Green Lantern ring? If you are referring to One Million then SPOM is a future version of All-Star Superman not PC Superman according to Morrison, that is why he also appeared in All-Star Superman #6 while implying they are the same character.

Is the Mjolnir cross-over canon?

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@sirneko: I already stated he is allowed to use SMPOM feats in OP.

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#45  Edited By SirNeko

@apex_pretador said:

@sirneko: I already stated he is allowed to use SMPOM feats in OP.

That's kinda weird, innit? They are 2 different characters, that is like saying Barry can have Wally's feats instead of just using 2 characters. Even if he gets SPOM feats, his GL ring feats are pretty non-existent.

Still stops at 2. Barry Speed Force dumps before Supeman can reach him. Barry can slow him down enough to dimension hop him from distance and Superman has no idea how to use Mjolnir to move between dimensions.

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@sirneko: Google: Is JLA/AVENGERS canon? Look for a Reddit link. It has scans and bios proving it was canon.

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Im less educated on DS and HP Dooms, but Id think he would have a tough time beating either one of them based on my limited knowledge.

He absolutely hard stops at Sentry.

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If Superman can utilize these weapons and items like a pro, he is seriously hard piece of a opponent. The ring gives him great stratetic defencenses and more imaginary ways to strike, and mjölnir gives him a huge boost to his stirking power , and also powerful variable magical powers to mix with the extent powers he already has. Caps shield is good for bashing and gives shield for physical attacks.

But still, cant see him clearing round 5 or higher. Even if he beats HP Doomsday what I can't see, even with these amps, then he had to take on DS Sentry who has humilated thor level powerhouses like nothing, and then two upperhigh star level matter/energy drainer/manipulator at the same time. No dice.

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#50  Edited By phillip33

@sly_141: agreed, though for strictly defense the shield is in even better hands because his reaction speed could potentially make it a very difficult defense to penetrate.