round 1:morals on,no BFR,random encounter
round 2:allen gets beat up by 3 kryptonians and comes back stronger than ever,iron man gets 2 days of prep,morals off
allen the alien vs iron man
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Strength
Durability
Speed
Healing
Telepathy
Allen wins.
@zjittzhat said:
@sirfizzwhizz: you are straight up lying about kicking the moon and throwing any ship from earth to the sun. There's no need to continue to talk to either a liar or a delusional reader
Oh so you are either trolling, or pretending to play dumb.
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Viltrumite War Mark hurls Tick and himself with enough force to kick this dwarfs planet/moon size planetoid out of its orbit, through swath of space, and onto the surface of Mars. Tick himself is only building busting level in comics, Stated twice his only real super power is nigh-invulnerability, toon force like durability. Also stated by the Martian that Tick is inferior to Martian's strength and power, however a Viltrumite is the most powerful being in Tick universe by comparison by said Martian. So we see Mark was using Tick's as a nigh invulnerable bullet. Momentum which Mark had to create with his own strength. This feat of throwing Tick with the needed force and kicking moon with Tick as a glorified bullet is all Invincible power. This feat is actual canon. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/
Tech Jacket who is weaker than Viltrumites throwing a ship from earth orbit to the sun in no time flat.
Allen solos IM alone base on super speed. Flat out is stated to attain near light speed speeds close to a planet would damage the planet. Able to wreck planets on speed alone.
However I know already your a "delusional" debater so dont bother replying with nonsense. Dont matter to me ;)
@zjittzhat said:
@sirfizzwhizz: no way did you just pull up a fuckin tick crossover 😂😂😂 and you can see the ship is no where close to the sun. It's on its way there sure but with no resistance in space throwing a ship through a vacuum and eventually getting to the sun is only a good feat in the eyes of a mental midget. The travel speed is nice as I said originally and is the key to victory here for sure. I don't know of many if any Ironman FTL combat feats
The Tick crossover is canon. So you dont like the feat you want to ignore canon feats? ;) Thought so....
Too bad there is more that IM just cant come close too.
So by real science and calcs we get 1/2*6.0939803e+23*13807^2 = 5.8085763e+31J//13.88 Zettatons of TNT Small Planet Level. FOR EACH Viltrumite alone, 13.88/3 = 4.63 Zettatons of TNT Small Planet Level.
Thragg states thirty seven fodder Viltrumites, weaker than Nolan or Invincible, can tear Earth apart physically, making each Viltrumite capable of tearing two moons worth of mass apart physically. characters like Thragg being above several Viltrumites alone in battle. casual moon level and small planetary level. Matches statements and calcs. Kirkmen agrees with this.
Kirkmen states flat out they punch a planet and it blew up.
Kirkmen in interview states outright these characters are capable of blowing up a entire planet and Kirkmen was trying to showcase this. Stated each Viltrumite posses Celestial-Body Shattering Power. his words.
Stated in interview and Kirkmen agrees Invincible can deal with planetary scale threats.
Robert Kirkmen agrees the Viltrumites can punch through planets, and agrees with this twice in the same interview.
Barely city buster level Iron Man gets wrecked by the casual moon busters of Viltrumites and Allen. Deal with it.
@zjittzhat said:
@sirfizzwhizz: just look at the fuckin scan you posted ON YOUR OWN with the tick. Its a fucking JOKE the moon didn't do ANY damage to the planet and the villain is stuck under it in a gag. If thats the best you got then that's legit embarrassing. I thought you'd put up a better fight tbh. Casual moon busters that never do it except in a crossover during a clear gag. Amazing stuff
A gag? Why should the moon do damage? When Superman pushes the moon or planet he never damages it. When Thor hits foes at full power stated to break worlds nothing happens to the area in damage. Hell, when black holes are set off on earth nothing happens to the planet or time as it should.
Guess most of marvels and DC feats are gags too not adhering to real science. :) Nice counter. I can as easy use real science to debunk all of Marvel and even IM feats. lolol.
We also have more canon scaling feats lol.
Dominex was a super powerful being who trump even Moore Supreme. In a dragged out fight lasting 17 hours, we see Omni Man standing tall with no real lasting damage from the fight against a foe who casually smack around and survive blows from Moore Supreme. Moore Supreme himself is so strong can smash foes to the center of the earth easy, able to move continents. Moore Supreme and Suprema show the ability to fly past the Event Horizon of a Blackhole and back out undamaged. Stated Moore Supreme durable enough to smash through planets and stars at light speeds. This feat is actual canon. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/
Mean Supreme is a character who showed the power to bust worlds. In the previous comic, Omni-Man fights into a stalemate Mean Supreme who never holds back. Mean Supreme is the Supreme that came before Moore Supreme, making him Liefeld Supreme. Also stated by classic Supreme the strongest of all the known Surpemes. Able to casually bust planet wrecking meteors, and bash through planets at full power. Khrom states and shows he has the ability to blast to the center of the planets and destroy them. Mean Supreme tanks this same blast to no real affect on Supreme. All 100% Image Comic Crossover https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/
A vastly weaker Post Work Out Mark (2008) took hits from Solar Man, a casual planet buster in Savage Dragon Comics. Saving Witchblade and Dragon that entire fight while even a average powered Simmons Spawn did fug all. Simmons Spawn was post Issue 169 but before issue 170 and average power level at that time. While its true Mark could not beat Solar Man at all, the context is Mark was still weak at the time of this comic, below his father Omni-Man still. There is also the fact while unable to win, Mark is the only one tanking blood lusted blows from Solar Man saving the other Image Heroes. Even after Solar Man claims to stop holding back Mark saves his team and punches Solar Man away. Solar Man is stated equals to mean Supreme. By the author of both characters. In Mark's fight with Solar Man, he tank blow after blow with little damage while knocking Solar Man back himself. This feat is actual canon. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/
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Tech Jacket alone can hold his own against Null who before this fight easy beat a stated world eating being who had stated limitless power. This matters as Tech Jacket was weaker than Invincible and Thragg by alot, and still puts up a fight for Null. Tech Jacket's armor is nearly crush utterly with ease from Viltrumites like Annisa who is weaker than Omni Man, Invincible, and Thragg. A big deal of feat as older and inferior Tech Jackets can sit on the surface of the sun with no damage. This character Null was stuck on the sun Surface for months. If our moon was sat on the surface of the sun it be torn apart by the forces. Another feat is when Star Eating and Planet Busting space ships are stated the size of Eurasia. That is the land mass of Europe and Asia combine in size and mass. That is how large these ships are. The super Nuke used on the ship blew out a hole by scale easily in the moon range of damage. Tech Jacket was hit at Ground Zero by this super nuke and survives with major damage.
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