Allen The alien vs Gear 5 Luffy & FGT Ichigo

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Allen The Alien vs Gear 5 Luffy & Fgt Ichigo

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Conditions:

  • Fgt Ichigo & Gear 5 Luffy both have 30 hrs. Timelimit
  • Skybound/Image Comics version of Allen the Alien
  • Both Combatants are at peak conditon
  • Standard Gear
  • No Prep time
  • Allen is In Character for R1 while T2 are bloodlusted for both Rounds.

Battle Location: Vampa

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R1: In Character (Exept T2)

R2 Bloodlusted

Who will win in this Fight??

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Ichigo one shots both rounds with Mugetsu and giving him 30 hours means that man is going to spam Mugetsu the whole fight since that’s his go to move.

Luffy on the other hand haxstomps.

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30 hours FGT? He solos the verse

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Allen blitz and one shots each.

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Fgt Ichigo bodies

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FGT splits his soul

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Allen was fine when Mark send him to the moon. When did Ichigo and Luffy ever do anything like that?

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#17  Edited By pics

either solos

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Allen was fine when Mark send him to the moon. When did Ichigo and Luffy ever do anything like that?

never

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Yeah Allen still stomps. Mismatch. Dude can wreck planets flying to close to them at light speed.

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#23  Edited By DikKhardly

Ichigo one-shots the fodder, best feat in Invincible is 3 viltrumites destroying a planet with it's core significantly weakened, nobody in Invincible is planetary to my knowledge, certainly not this guy.

This Ichigo should scale significantly above Kenpachi destroying Gremmy's meteor which should give him enough AP to one-shot both of them at once.

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Allen might be too fast if its non-amazon version, if he scales to mftl+, i think Ichigo can pull a W maybe in strength match.

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Ichigo one-shots the fodder, best feat in Invincible is 3 viltrumites destroying a planet with it's core significantly weakened, nobody in Invincible is planetary to my knowledge, certainly not this guy.

Allen is much stronger than Omni Man. Its was shown fact when he beat Omni Man's ass while holding back as much as possible.

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Let me know when Ichigo can kick moons.

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@dikkhardly said:

Ichigo one-shots the fodder, best feat in Invincible is 3 viltrumites destroying a planet with it's core significantly weakened, nobody in Invincible is planetary to my knowledge, certainly not this guy.

Allen is much stronger than Omni Man. Its was shown fact when he beat Omni Man's ass while holding back as much as possible.

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Let me know when Ichigo can kick moons.

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Ichigo solos.

He just has higher scaling than Allen does.

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#28  Edited By Maskedoff67

Ichigo may solo with planetary scaling and soul attacks, although by actual feats Allen dogwalks this team

Luffy doesn't belong here. He is continental lightweight

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#30  Edited By Maskedoff67

@geenkracht: you have him lower or higher ? I can agree with him being country level. Some people have him at island level which is a lowball imo

If you think he's higher I don't mind multi continental scaling, but no way is he above that. That's already pushing it tbh

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@maskedoff67: Kaido lifted an island for hours so thats country level strenght. Also with Imu weaopon being a osland/country destroying force. It doesn't make sense for any god tiers to be hundreds of times more powerful. Who knows Luffy might no sell it. Doubt it since Sabo was ducking to avoid it, why not tank the foddwr attack if you are continental or even multi.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Preety Much sure that Mark helped Allen with The Moon Push in that instance.

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#33  Edited By sirfizzwhizz
@maskedoff67 said:

Ichigo may solo with planetary scaling and soul attacks, although by actual feats Allen dogwalks this team

Luffy doesn't belong here. He is continental lightweight

@konohana said:

Ichigo solos.

He just has higher scaling than Allen does.

Oh we want scaling to planet level?

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All three men in this interview are credible word of Gods on Hulk and his limits. Robert Kirkman wrote multiple Marvel comics and has written Hulk multiple times in his Marvel Team Up comics. Cory drew Hulk and his action scenes in the same comics Kirkmen wrote. Ryan is the current mainstay Hulk artist for Hulk comics, and has explicit knowledge on current Hulk and his abilities, drawing the feats of said Hulk. All three agree EoS Mark can beat Hulk in 1 on 1. Hulk biggest issue is healing to fast to be kept down, however BFRing Hulk into space is something Mark can for sure do, and stated can rip Hulk apart physically with his strength. Able to by pass Hulks durability for sure. 3 Word of gods on the subject and characters agreeing.

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Kirkmen states flat out they punch a planet and it blew up.

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Stated in interview and Kirkman agrees Invincible can deal with planetary scale threats.

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Robert Kirkman agrees the Viltrumites can punch through planets, and agrees with this twice in the same interview.

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Erik Larsen who wrote the Omni Man vs Supreme and Invincible vs Solar Man states in interview Supreme and Solar Man are close in power levels. Meaning a weaker version of mark beat back at times, and took blows from a Supreme level character.

Tech Jacket alone can hold his own against Null who before this fight easy beat a stated world eating being who had stated limitless power. This matters as Tech Jacket was weaker than Invincible and Thragg by alot, and still puts up a fight for Null.

Scan one, Omnipotus states he feeds off the universes he is in and can re shape worlds. Scan 2 Omnipotus states he can drain whole universes dry and did so his last one. Scan 3, stated to have unlimited power. Scan 4, Omnipotus powers are stated to manipulate energy, bend space time, and re write laws of physics. Also stated he can destroy star systems with chain reactions and remake the surface of planets with his current power. Also stated the cosmic energy flowing through Omnipotus makes him nearly invulnerable. The final parts of this is that Omnipotus was planet level already and reaching greater strength feeding off the Invincible Earth. Stated he was full powered. Scan 4, states again he is fully powered than the last time. Yet Dinosaurus teeth and strength shreds Omnipotus skull and rips it off. Killing the universe conqueror in one attack.

Allen states twice his home world was destroyed by Viltrumites. Completely destroyed with nothing to go back to.

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Annissa states they will destroy Earth once the resources are used up. This could mean the Earth is ruin in terms of the word use, but considering the tons of proof in this thread can easily be assume the Earth be destroyed in a more literal sense by the Viltrumites themselves when nothing of use is left. Stating humans will still be on the planet and alive when it happens. So clearly she does not mean the earth be unhabitual from resource draining as humans still be alive on the planet when they destroy it.

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Battle Beast explains and states clearly that the fight with Thragg and himself can tear a planet apart alone.

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Kirkman writes straight up this page where Invincible state that they can and have punch through planets.

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Allen is stated to attain light speed near planets, but reaching such speeds would damage the planet, so he does not. Able to wreck planets on speed alone.

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Thragg states thirty seven fodder Viltrumites, weaker than Nolan or Invincible, can tear Earth apart physically, making each Viltrumite capable of tearing two moons worth of mass apart physically. characters like Thragg being above several Viltrumites alone in battle. casual moon level and small planetary level.

Dominex was a super powerful being who trump even Moore Supreme. In a dragged out fight lasting 17 hours, we see Omni Man standing tall with no real lasting damage from the fight against a foe who casually smack around and survive blows from Moore Supreme. Moore Supreme himself is so strong can smash foes to the center of the earth easy, able to move continents. Moore Supreme and Suprema show the ability to fly past the Event Horizon of a Blackhole and back out undamaged. Stated Moore Supreme durable enough to smash through planets and stars at light speeds. This feat is actual canon. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/

Mean Supreme is a character who showed the power to bust worlds. In the previous comic, Omni-Man fights into a stalemate Mean Supreme who never holds back. Mean Supreme is the Supreme that came before Moore Supreme, making him Liefeld Supreme. Also stated by classic Supreme the strongest of all the known Surpemes. Able to casually bust planet wrecking meteors, and bash through planets at full power. Khrom states and shows he has the ability to blast to the center of the planets and destroy them. Mean Supreme tanks this same blast to no real affect on Supreme. All 100% Image Comic Crossover https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/

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A vastly weaker Post Work Out Mark (2008) took hits from Solar Man, a casual planet buster in Savage Dragon Comics. Saving Witchblade and Dragon that entire fight while even a average powered Simmons Spawn did fug all. Simmons Spawn was post Issue 169 but before issue 170 and average power level at that time. While its true Mark could not beat Solar Man at all, the context is Mark was still weak at the time of this comic, below his father Omni-Man still. There is also the fact while unable to win, Mark is the only one tanking blood lusted blows from Solar Man saving the other Image Heroes. Even after Solar Man claims to stop holding back Mark saves his team and punches Solar Man away. Solar Man is stated equals to mean Supreme. By the author of both characters. In Mark's fight with Solar Man, he tank blow after blow with little damage while knocking Solar Man back himself. This feat is actual canon. https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/invincible-crossover-canon-2262961/

As seen before Omnipotus who was already empowered by the earths energy and stats to match was one shot by Dinosaurus. Yet later on we see Dinosaurus lowest end however is causing zero damage to Thragg with his claws and teeth. Either Thragg is leagues above a World Shaper and immune to all shown powerhouses like Omnipotus or this is a inconsistent low showing. You decide.

So by Scaling allen beats the shit out of Omni Man and Mark (pre Thragg upgrade) so scales above all the "planet Level' statements and scaling of characters in turn. See Invincible can play these wank games too.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Preety Much sure that Mark helped Allen with The Moon Push in that instance.

Thats not Allen, that was the canon to Invincible verse Tick crossover. Tick has stated in the same comic he has no super strength. Mark threw the Tick at the moon and kicked it at the same time, all Marks strength.

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@sirfizzwhizz:

Thats not Allen, that was the canon to invincible Tick crossover, and Tick has stated he has no super strength. Mark through Tick at the moon and kicked it, all marks strength.

Ahh, OK, so he just scales above?

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@mangacomics69: Yes that was Viltrum War time frame Mark, who is much weaker than Allen at the time.

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@sirfizzwhizz:

So by Scaling allen beats the shit out of Omni Man and Mark (pre Thragg upgrade) so scales above all the "planet Level' statements and scaling of characters in turn. See Invincible can play these wank games too.

Look, I do believe the evidence is there for ’planetaryInvincible top-tiers, but even if we considered this - it wouldn’t be enough.

The very Ichigo that Allen would be facing nearly - and effortlessly - erased someone with feats of hurting a prior Ichigo, who had vastly scaled above planetary-planetary+ feats.

Allen might be faster, and could have more experience - but that is it.

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@konohana:

The very Ichigo that Allen would be facing nearly - and effortlessly - erased someone with feats of hurting a prior Ichigo, who had vastly scaled aboveplanetary-planetary+feats.

I yet to see this. Ichigo at best is country to moon buster.

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@sirfizzwhizz:

I yet to see this. Ichigo at best is country to moon buster.

SAFWY, a Bleach novel, has actual feats in the planetary range, from someone named Azashiro, and Kenpachi no-sold his attacks.

Since Hogyoku Aizen - in his Butterfly and Monster form - and Dangai Ichigo, then to his Final Getsuga, both transcend all of the Soul Reapers, they would upscale from the feats from Kenpachi.

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Ichigo takes his life and his soul.

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