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#1  Edited By TruePwnge

(Beast and MsMarvel not included since they were both an Xman and Avenger)


Team leader Cyclops in Blackbird, Cybernetic Warlock, Storm, Professor X, , Warpath, Bishop, Magneto, Phoenix, Nightcrawler, Emma Frost, Colossus, Wolverine, Iceman, Rogue, X23, Psylocke, Banshee, Sabretooth, Deadpool, Husk, Chamber, X-Man Nathaniel Grey

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Team leader Stark's Hulkbuster armor, Moondragon, US agent, Spiderman, Rage, Wasp, Thor Odin Force, Smart-Hulk, Sentry, Scarlet Witch, Monica Rambeau, Firestar, Black Widow, Namor, Crystal, Ares, Sersi, Dr Strange


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#2  Edited By Matezoide2
TruePwnge said:
"(Beast and MsMarvel not included since they were both an Xman and Avenger)


Team leader Cyclops in Blackbird, Cybernetic Warlock, Storm, Professor X, , Warpath, Bishop, Magneto, Phoenix, Nightcrawler, Emma Frost, Colossus, Wolverine, Iceman, Rogue, X23, Psylocke, Banshee, Sabretooth, Deadpool, Husk, Chamber, X-Man Nathaniel Grey

VersusTeam leader Stark's Hulkbuster armor, Moondragon, US agent, Spiderman, Rage, Wasp, THOR ODIN FORCE, Smart-Hulk, Sentry, Scarlet Witch, Monica Rambeau, Firestar, Black Widow, Namor, Crystal, Ares, Sersi, Dr Strange"

fight over,Thor solos,if it is House of M Scarlet Witch she would solo too

classic Thor,Hulk,Iron Man,Namor,Monica,Sentry and Strange would beat these X-Men
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#3  Edited By TruePwnge

What about illusions and psychic attacks Professor X, X-Man, Phoenix, Emma Frost? I'm pretty sure Professor X could hurt Thor and Hulkbuster doesn't have mental shields

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#4  Edited By Matezoide2

not enought,Enchantress easly bloqued her and the others villians minds from Xavier AND claimed his powers were a joke for her,Strange is a lot more powerfull
and by Phoenix you mean Jean Grey or she is possed by the Phoenix?because if she is X-Men would win easy

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#5  Edited By Ferro Vida

Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers

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#6  Edited By Ferro Vida

I'd say the X-men win it with X-man, Phoenix, and Magneto.

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#7  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Ferro Vida said:
"I'd say the X-men win it with X-man, Phoenix, and Magneto."
There are several Avengers that could easily off Magnus.
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#8  Edited By Stormultt

I say x-men they have storm, phoenix and OMG THAT SEXY HUNK OF  MAN NATE GREY!!!!

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#9  Edited By TruePwnge
Ferro Vida said:
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"
Ok Odin Force Thor I'm probably wrong, but Namor was definitely an Avenger, he appears in 1984? and Strange came in New Avengers during Civil War. You would be surprised to see how many people were Avengers over the years

(Namor fights Aquaman behind Thor's hammer, Beast is behind Caps head)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/thugonline/Avengers_vs_JLA.jpg
(Namor top right, Wolverine bottom right)
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/gallery/default.asp?img=1&gallery=the-avengers_filmtv&id=7


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#10  Edited By claws

xmen ftw because of phoenix

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#11  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Ferro Vida said:
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"
Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what  are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people.
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#12  Edited By The_Ghostshell

Avengers in a curbstump.

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#13  Edited By Erik
Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
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#14  Edited By Ferro Vida
Vance Astro said:
"Ferro Vida said:
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"
Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what  are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people.
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Sorry, I was really out of it earlier.
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#15  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Ferro Vida said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Ferro Vida said:
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"
Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what  are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people.
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Sorry, I was really out of it earlier."
Really out of it. :P
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#16  Edited By Ferro Vida
Vance Astro said:
"Ferro Vida said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Ferro Vida said:
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"
Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what  are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people.
"
Sorry, I was really out of it earlier."
Really out of it. :P
"
lol xD

Either way, I say The X-team can take it, or at least stalemate, if for no other reason than Deadpool just won't die.
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#17  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Ferro Vida said:
lolEither way, I say The X-team can take it, or at least stalemate, if for no other reason than Deadpool just won't die."
The fight is to the death? The OP doesn't say that?
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#18  Edited By Ferro Vida
Vance Astro said:
"Ferro Vida said:
lolEither way, I say The X-team can take it, or at least stalemate, if for no other reason than Deadpool just won't die."
The fight is to the death? The OP doesn't say that?
"
Good point. Hmmm... I'll have an arguement for you! Just give me a sec
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#19  Edited By The_Ghostshell
erik said:
"Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
"
I dont have one
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#20  Edited By Erik
Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
"
I dont have one"
Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?
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#21  Edited By Stormultt

how about x-men win cz i said so...

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#22  Edited By The_Ghostshell
erik said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
"
I dont have one"
Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?
"
There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables.
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#23  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
"
I dont have one"
Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?
"
There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables. "
With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables.
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#24  Edited By Erik
Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
"
I dont have one"
Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?
"
There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables. "
I actually agree with you completely. I even said it yesterday on another large teams thread. But in this case, the OP is using Thor with Thorforce so we must assume he means current characters....... And Phoenix is currently WPOTC.
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#25  Edited By The_Ghostshell
Vance Astro said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"erik said:
"Gambler said:
"Avengers in a curbstump."
Explain. 
"
I dont have one"
Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?
"
There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables. "
With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables.
"
Why not? Wanda could take them both out at the same time.
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#27  Edited By TruePwnge
Vance Astro said:
" With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables."
Phoenix is most powerful here, but she hasn't many brawling skills. I wouldn't put money on her in a slugfest since she is not a good fighter. Thor is a highly skilled warrior, Odin Force will find a way to beat some damage into her.
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#28  Edited By Erik
TruePwnge said:
"Vance Astro said:
" With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables."
Phoenix is most powerful here, but she hasn't many brawling skills. I wouldn't put money on her in a slugfest since she is not a good fighter. Thor is a highly skilled warrior, Odin Force will find a way to beat some damage into her. "
In h2h she is skilled. Every X-Man is trained by Wolverine so at the very least they have far more skill than most. She also trained in intense exercise and combat daily. But if she is WPOTC then the battle is over before it began.
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#29  Edited By geraldthesloth

well if you wanna count insane wanda than avengers win

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#30  Edited By Erik
geraldthesloth said:
"well if you wanna count insane wanda than avengers win"
Not against Phoenix.
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#31  Edited By geraldthesloth

Insane wanda was responsible for the chaos wave...that would beat phoenix

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#32  Edited By Erik
geraldthesloth said:
"Insane wanda was responsible for the chaos wave...that would beat phoenix"
No. It would not.
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#33  Edited By geraldthesloth

Actually it would it destroyed the omniverse  and rewrote it


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#34  Edited By Erik

So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Force's duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you.

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#35  Edited By geraldthesloth
erik said:
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."
But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room
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#36  Edited By Erik
geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."
But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. 
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#37  Edited By PrinceIMC

I'd have to say the Avengers would win but I think it would be a close fight.

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#38  Edited By Erik

I am pretty sure that Wanda was both an X-Man and an Avenger as well. If that is the case, then she should not even be included anyway. But even if she is on Avengers, she does not beat Phoenix by any means. 

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#39  Edited By geraldthesloth
erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."
But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. "
Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right?  so how could she die
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#40  Edited By PrinceIMC

Wanda was never on an X-team. Though Pietro was on X-Factor for a while.

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#41  Edited By Erik
geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."
But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. "
Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right?  so how could she die"
She was still alive therefore Phoenix was alive. 
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#42  Edited By Erik
PrinceIMC said:
"Wanda was never on an X-team. Though Pietro was on X-Factor for a while."
Well, I did not know for sure so I am not surprised to find this out. 
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#43  Edited By geraldthesloth
erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."
But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. "
Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right?  so how could she die"
She was still alive therefore Phoenix was alive. 
"
She was using the power of the true beyonders to seal it though no mentions of phoenix besides the white hot room getting warped which at HoM levels im sure she could do
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#44  Edited By PrinceIMC
erik said:
"PrinceIMC said:
"Wanda was never on an X-team. Though Pietro was on X-Factor for a while."
Well, I did not know for sure so I am not surprised to find this out. 
"
Yeah considering she's the daughter of Magneto and fought the X-Men early on I think its surprising she's pretty much only been an Avenger.....and West Coast Avengers and Force Works but never any mainstream X-team.
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#45  Edited By Erik
geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."
But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. "
Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right?  so how could she die"
She was still alive therefore Phoenix was alive. 
"
She was using the power of the true beyonders to seal it though no mentions of phoenix besides the white hot room getting warped which at HoM levels im sure she could do"
What the hell? Where is the scan or reference of the white hot room getting warped? I cannot believe you can misunderstand me twice in a row. I said that the Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life. If the Phoenix Force dies, all life ends. So if Meggan was alive to do anything at all, the Phoenix Force was as well.
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#46  Edited By geraldthesloth

Im not trying to say that the wave destroyed the phoenix im saying it had the power to destroy it!

As for the white hot room scans i've got them being warped by jamie braddock


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#47  Edited By Erik

So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. 

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#48  Edited By geraldthesloth
erik said:
"So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. "
HoM witch is stronger than braddock she's affected reality on an omniversal scale twice

Braddocks done universal feats at best
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#49  Edited By Erik
geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. "
HoM witch is stronger than braddock she's affected reality on an omniversal scale twiceBraddocks done universal feats at best"
So Jamie can make his sister immune to reality warping but not himself? You had better be able to back up such an outrageous claim. 
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#50  Edited By geraldthesloth
erik said:
"geraldthesloth said:
"erik said:
"So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. "
HoM witch is stronger than braddock she's affected reality on an omniversal scale twiceBraddocks done universal feats at best"
So Jamie can make his sister immune to reality warping but not himself? You had better be able to back up such an outrageous claim. 
"
Well One was an omniversal warp

the other was universal but done more than once

and im sure his warp on psylocke only applies to those weaker than him now you compare feats

if meggan had not stopped the chaos wave it would have reached god himself 

Jamie was able to recreate his own reality while fighting excalibur and warp the white hot room

and Wanda Rewrote 616 multiple times