(Beast and MsMarvel not included since they were both an Xman and Avenger)
Team leader Cyclops in Blackbird, Cybernetic Warlock, Storm, Professor X, , Warpath, Bishop, Magneto, Phoenix, Nightcrawler, Emma Frost, Colossus, Wolverine, Iceman, Rogue, X23, Psylocke, Banshee, Sabretooth, Deadpool, Husk, Chamber, X-Man Nathaniel Grey
Versus
Team leader Stark's Hulkbuster armor, Moondragon, US agent, Spiderman, Rage, Wasp, Thor Odin Force, Smart-Hulk, Sentry, Scarlet Witch, Monica Rambeau, Firestar, Black Widow, Namor, Crystal, Ares, Sersi, Dr Strange
All X-men members Vs All Avengers
"(Beast and MsMarvel not included since they were both an Xman and Avenger)
Team leader Cyclops in Blackbird, Cybernetic Warlock, Storm, Professor X, , Warpath, Bishop, Magneto, Phoenix, Nightcrawler, Emma Frost, Colossus, Wolverine, Iceman, Rogue, X23, Psylocke, Banshee, Sabretooth, Deadpool, Husk, Chamber, X-Man Nathaniel Grey
VersusTeam leader Stark's Hulkbuster armor, Moondragon, US agent, Spiderman, Rage, Wasp, THOR ODIN FORCE, Smart-Hulk, Sentry, Scarlet Witch, Monica Rambeau, Firestar, Black Widow, Namor, Crystal, Ares, Sersi, Dr Strange"
fight over,Thor solos,if it is House of M Scarlet Witch she would solo too
classic Thor,Hulk,Iron Man,Namor,Monica,Sentry and Strange would beat these X-Men
not enought,Enchantress easly bloqued her and the others villians minds from Xavier AND claimed his powers were a joke for her,Strange is a lot more powerfull
and by Phoenix you mean Jean Grey or she is possed by the Phoenix?because if she is X-Men would win easy
"I'd say the X-men win it with X-man, Phoenix, and Magneto."There are several Avengers that could easily off Magnus.
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"Ok Odin Force Thor I'm probably wrong, but Namor was definitely an Avenger, he appears in 1984? and Strange came in New Avengers during Civil War. You would be surprised to see how many people were Avengers over the years
(Namor fights Aquaman behind Thor's hammer, Beast is behind Caps head)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v220/thugonline/Avengers_vs_JLA.jpg
(Namor top right, Wolverine bottom right)
http://www.ugo.com/ugo/html/gallery/default.asp?img=1&gallery=the-avengers_filmtv&id=7
"Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people.
"Ferro Vida said:Sorry, I was really out of it earlier."Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people."
"Vance Astro said:Really out of it. :P"Ferro Vida said:Sorry, I was really out of it earlier.""Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people."
"Ferro Vida said:lol xD"Vance Astro said:Really out of it. :P""Ferro Vida said:Sorry, I was really out of it earlier.""Namor, Dr. Strange, and Odin-Force Thor were never on the Avengers"Namor and Dr.Strange were Avenger what are you talking about? Odin Force Thor wasn't an Avenger but Thor was.Thor is obviously being used at his current level.Odin-Force Thor and Thor aren't two different people."
Either way, I say The X-team can take it, or at least stalemate, if for no other reason than Deadpool just won't die.
lolEither way, I say The X-team can take it, or at least stalemate, if for no other reason than Deadpool just won't die."The fight is to the death? The OP doesn't say that?
"Ferro Vida said:Good point. Hmmm... I'll have an arguement for you! Just give me a seclolEither way, I say The X-team can take it, or at least stalemate, if for no other reason than Deadpool just won't die."The fight is to the death? The OP doesn't say that?"
"Gambler said:There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables."erik said:Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?""Gambler said:I dont have one""Avengers in a curbstump."Explain. "
"erik said:With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables."Gambler said:There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables. ""erik said:Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?""Gambler said:I dont have one""Avengers in a curbstump."Explain. "
"erik said:I actually agree with you completely. I even said it yesterday on another large teams thread. But in this case, the OP is using Thor with Thorforce so we must assume he means current characters....... And Phoenix is currently WPOTC."Gambler said:There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables. ""erik said:Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?""Gambler said:I dont have one""Avengers in a curbstump."Explain. "
"Gambler said:Why not? Wanda could take them both out at the same time."erik said:With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables.""Gambler said:There's no right answer (in my opinion). Major battles like these could go in any direction. Who know's who would do what and how that would effect the outcome. Ya know? To many variables. ""erik said:Lol. Well then I guess it would be a gut thing then?""Gambler said:I dont have one""Avengers in a curbstump."Explain. "
" With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables."Phoenix is most powerful here, but she hasn't many brawling skills. I wouldn't put money on her in a slugfest since she is not a good fighter. Thor is a highly skilled warrior, Odin Force will find a way to beat some damage into her.
"Vance Astro said:In h2h she is skilled. Every X-Man is trained by Wolverine so at the very least they have far more skill than most. She also trained in intense exercise and combat daily. But if she is WPOTC then the battle is over before it began." With X-man and Phoenix in the fight..there isn't too many variables."Phoenix is most powerful here, but she hasn't many brawling skills. I wouldn't put money on her in a slugfest since she is not a good fighter. Thor is a highly skilled warrior, Odin Force will find a way to beat some damage into her. "
"So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room
"erik said:Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse."So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
"geraldthesloth said:Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right? so how could she die"erik said:Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. ""So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
"erik said:She was still alive therefore Phoenix was alive."geraldthesloth said:Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right? so how could she die""erik said:Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. ""So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
"geraldthesloth said:She was using the power of the true beyonders to seal it though no mentions of phoenix besides the white hot room getting warped which at HoM levels im sure she could do"erik said:She was still alive therefore Phoenix was alive. ""geraldthesloth said:Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right? so how could she die""erik said:Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. ""So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
"PrinceIMC said:Yeah considering she's the daughter of Magneto and fought the X-Men early on I think its surprising she's pretty much only been an Avenger.....and West Coast Avengers and Force Works but never any mainstream X-team."Wanda was never on an X-team. Though Pietro was on X-Factor for a while."Well, I did not know for sure so I am not surprised to find this out. "
"erik said:What the hell? Where is the scan or reference of the white hot room getting warped? I cannot believe you can misunderstand me twice in a row. I said that the Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life. If the Phoenix Force dies, all life ends. So if Meggan was alive to do anything at all, the Phoenix Force was as well."geraldthesloth said:She was using the power of the true beyonders to seal it though no mentions of phoenix besides the white hot room getting warped which at HoM levels im sure she could do""erik said:She was still alive therefore Phoenix was alive. ""geraldthesloth said:Meggan was outside of reality as she was doing this outside of the starlight citadel right? so how could she die""erik said:Hitting the white hot room, even if it could, does not mean it kills the being within. If the Phoenix Force would have died, then there would have been no one left to save the omniverse. Do not misinterpret. I know the Phoenix Force did nothing to stop the damage. It was but Meggan. The Phoenix Force is the incarnation of life itself. If it had died, then Meggan would have died before saving the omniverse. ""So what? I have had this exact same discussion with you before. Phoenix exists outside of reality. One of the Phoenix Forces duties is to repair broken universes. Post a scan of it destroying the Phoenix Force and I will believe you."But it was able to hit the starlight citadel too wich exists outside of reality so i don't see why it shouldn't be able too hit the white hot room"
Im not trying to say that the wave destroyed the phoenix im saying it had the power to destroy it!
As for the white hot room scans i've got them being warped by jamie braddock
"So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. "HoM witch is stronger than braddock she's affected reality on an omniversal scale twice
Braddocks done universal feats at best
"erik said:So Jamie can make his sister immune to reality warping but not himself? You had better be able to back up such an outrageous claim."So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. "HoM witch is stronger than braddock she's affected reality on an omniversal scale twiceBraddocks done universal feats at best"
"geraldthesloth said:Well One was an omniversal warp"erik said:So Jamie can make his sister immune to reality warping but not himself? You had better be able to back up such an outrageous claim. ""So because something has the power to destroy a place, it has the power to destroy the being within? Jamie Braddock is more powerful than Scarlet Witch anyway. "HoM witch is stronger than braddock she's affected reality on an omniversal scale twiceBraddocks done universal feats at best"
the other was universal but done more than once
and im sure his warp on psylocke only applies to those weaker than him now you compare feats
if meggan had not stopped the chaos wave it would have reached god himself
Jamie was able to recreate his own reality while fighting excalibur and warp the white hot room
and Wanda Rewrote 616 multiple times
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