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#151 Posted by Aquatic_Pianist (694 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might stomps, especially after the last episode.

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#152 Edited by Xy (963 posts) - - Show Bio

Nukes are heat, energy, and radiation primarily. It doesn't directly translate to how well Clark would tank punches from a powerhouse like All Might.

I see a lot of lowballing on both sides. Quite honestly, it's a close fight, no one is stomping.

Seems to me like it would be smarter to bring up Clark's actual feats of blunt durability rather than throwing around the nuke beehive like it makes him indestructible.

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#153 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (4770 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like All Might could take this but it would be a pretty good fight.

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#154 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: air pressure. Author doesn't even call them shockwaves nor do they look like shockwaves.

All might's punches weren't nullified they were reversed. This is a shared feat with all for one his near equal. He punches, caused damage, them all for one reversed that damage to him.

Again, he's not destroying any city blocks from shockwaves.

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#155 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

Noob Superman went through a mountain and shrugged it off.

All Might won't hurt him in Round 1, and he is featless in Round 2.

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#156 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Clark went through a peak, he did not go through an entire Mountain.

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#157 Edited by deactivated-5b2af6bb1f992 (753 posts) - - Show Bio

Causing environmental damage with air pressure is far better than doing it with shockwaves....and Superman went through a mountain top not the whole mountain.

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#158 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio
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#159 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio
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#160 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: and, you're wrong.

Except that I'm not, since you admitted he went through a mountain.

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#161 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5678 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is not pulling off any of All Might's most casual of punches while All Might isn't replicating any of Superman's best speed feats but other than that All Might has all of the other advantages, he takes it.

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#162 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: When did I admit he went through a mountain?

He went through the thinest part, that's like busting the tip of a mountain off and say "I'm a MOUnTaiN bUSTer!"

No. Clark eats a Plus Ultra to the dome and goes to sleep.

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#163 Posted by Black_Arrow (10286 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is not pulling off any of All Might's most casual of punches while All Might isn't replicating any of Superman's best speed feats but other than that All Might has all of the other advantages, he takes it.

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#164 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: When did I admit he went through a mountain?

He went through the thinest part, that's like busting the tip of a mountain off and say "I'm a MOUnTaiN bUSTer!"

No. Clark eats a Plus Ultra to the dome and goes to sleep.

"He went through a tip of a mountain " = Going through a mountain. I was talking about in general but if you want to go into specifics be my guest.

What was so impressive about Plus Ultra?

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#165 Posted by Deathstroke_50 (418 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might was more impressive.

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#166 Posted by SocaJunkie (8903 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might.

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#167 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Mountain peak =|= Mountain.

AM punched a person into oribit with a single punch, it took SM flying and dosens of strikes to do the same.

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#168 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: Mountain peak =|= Mountain.

AM punched a person into oribit with a single punch, it took SM flying and dosens of strikes to do the same.

Saved you the trouble.

OK so you proved that AM is superior in strength, however, Superman is superior in speed, durability, versatility, etc.

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#169 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

Still not the same thing you're reaching not a surprise really.

AM has better durability as he bought sold a city block strike something Clark can't do.

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#170 Posted by Otsdarva999 (380 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might

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#171 Posted by Pipxeroth (9376 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower:

It's reasonable to assume their punches cancel out every time they match fists, since we know what happens when they match fists due to their blows being equal.

No, it actually isn't when it's being explicitly stated that the force is being reflected.

However, even in the instance where AFO states All Might cancelled out his blow, we still see air pressure and shockwaves forming around them.

Hence me calling the rest of the scans contradictory.

The instance where they created a multi-city block shockwave is the same thing but on a higher scale. Yes their punches cancelled out, but some shockwaves and damage are still visibly seen like it was the time it was stated to negate.

Except, again, I still haven't seen any evidence that the punches were cancelled out when the dialogue is openly stating that the punch was just reversed back onto All Might.

Impact Recoil is just AFO reversing all the force All Might releases back inside of him. We've established that even when their hits negate, a shockwave is still depicted. Whatever collateral is shown in spite of negation is just reversed back into AM through that technique, so it doesn't conflict with the negation aspect of the exchange at all. And even if it did, I hope you realize that would actually support my main, overarching argument right?

Evidence that it's being negated during impact reversal? Looks to me like it's something along the veins of full counter instead, All Might throws a punch and receives the damage from said punch.

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Still haven't seen anything from you supporting the notion that the force of the punch just vanishes like you're saying, nor have you shown any evidence for the shockwaves being an infinitesimal fraction of their regular power. You're still just going off of assumptions.

What nuke you know can release shockwaves at all if it's explosion (the source of the shockwave) is never expelled fully, but rather reflected and reversed inwardly at the moment of inception?

A punch is not an explosion, this is a faulty comparison.

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#172 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth:

Still not the same thing you're reaching not a surprise really.

AM has better durability as he bought sold a city block strike something Clark can't do.

Lol, you're just downplaying, but continue.

Superman has already been thrown at longer distances and Doomsday's blasts are easily city block+ (Haven't even gotten to the nuke yet.)

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#173 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: you must be trolling.

Not the same thing

DD couldn't even destroy a rock Batman hid behind

The Nuke is energy not physical force not to mention DD absorbed most of it.

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#174 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: you must be trolling.

Not the same thing

DD couldn't even destroy a rock Batman hid behind

The Nuke is energy not physical force not to mention DD absorbed most of it.

The only troll here is you, from what I have seen of you on this site, you like to nitpick other people's messages and try to create some argument. You've also done this to me in the past.

Going through a mountain peak =/= going through an entiremountain.

Going through a mountain peak = going through a mountain

For the love of god, what don't you understand about this?

Pathetic lowball. DD destroyed a huge area, the blast was so powerful it threw parts of buildings around and turned the battlefield into a fire pit. But yeah, let's focus on this ONE stone that wasn't destroyed!! (100% flawless argument 👌)

Literally the same as me destroying New York City, but I left this one building standing, so now I'm not even building level?

I'm sorry, were we focusing on a specific durability set, or were we just talking about durability in general? Either way, Superman has received more impressive feats. Any feats suggesting All Might would survive the epicenter of a nuclear explosion or tanking the bullets from Batman's weapons (i think they were 50 cal iirc)

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#175 Posted by CartoonLife (800 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman gets one shot after last episode.

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#176 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: like I said you're trolling. Going through a mountain top isn't going through a mountain.

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#177 Posted by FaradaySloth (10749 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: like I said you're trolling. Going through a mountain top isn't going through a mountain.

Again saved you the trouble. If you can't understand this and just resort to calling me a troll, then you're beyond help. I'm done with this convo, take your downplaying somewhere else.

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#178 Edited by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

@faradaysloth: a mountains peak isn't even close to the same thickness of the actual Mountain, if you can't comprehend such a simple fact you have no business having an account on a debate site.

Clark has been hurt by bullets, far weaker punchs, etc. AM has much higher combat speed and will piece Clark up as he pleases. Clark lacks the feats to take AM @ 1OO% let alone from beyond that.

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#181 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might wins.

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#182 Posted by Skyggen (24 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not understand why so many people think All Might would win. It is slower and weaker. They are on different levels. What is the best All Might feat?

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#184 Posted by Jueix (2562 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#185 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5678 posts) - - Show Bio

Still backing All Might.

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#186 Posted by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman versatility for the win

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#187 Posted by Toratorn (7591 posts) - - Show Bio

All-Might gets destroyed.

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#188 Posted by TheBeardOfZues (2801 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might stomps.

He hits harder than Superman and he's loads faster.

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#189 Posted by TonyMartial (9893 posts) - - Show Bio

All might is basically BTEC Superman. He dies.

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#190 Edited by TheBeardOfZues (2801 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: You're going to have to explain your logic, a weakened All Might using his powers for the Last time took shots Superman can't replicate... He can also dish shots Superman can't replicate not to mention the moment this fight enters close quarters All Might can throw dosens of punchs to Superman's 1...

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#191 Posted by KanyeCosby (7258 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might murderstomps. Just the air pressure to his punches is way above anything Superman can replicate.

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#192 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18619 posts) - - Show Bio

The guy who can dissipate tornadoes and destroy city blocks with air pressure wins.

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#193 Edited by Red_Ruby_Petal (8262 posts) - - Show Bio

The guy who punches hard wins

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#194 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

@thebeardofzues: All Might is not faster than Wolverine no matter how you want to cut it.

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#195 Posted by Lil_Remains (1704 posts) - - Show Bio

Toshinori hits too hard.

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#196 Posted by Chronicplane (9404 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

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#197 Posted by FlashingSabre (3867 posts) - - Show Bio
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#198 Posted by Gamer-Guy (3354 posts) - - Show Bio

all might gets blitzed

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#199 Edited by Red_Ruby_Petal (8262 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might's speed is actually undersold here.

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#200 Posted by RampageTheFirst (7821 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might stomps.