All Might vs DCEU Superman

All Might stomps, especially after the last episode.

Nukes are heat, energy, and radiation primarily. It doesn't directly translate to how well Clark would tank punches from a powerhouse like All Might.

I see a lot of lowballing on both sides. Quite honestly, it's a close fight, no one is stomping.

Seems to me like it would be smarter to bring up Clark's actual feats of blunt durability rather than throwing around the nuke beehive like it makes him indestructible.

I feel like All Might could take this but it would be a pretty good fight.

@higherpower: air pressure. Author doesn't even call them shockwaves nor do they look like shockwaves.

All might's punches weren't nullified they were reversed. This is a shared feat with all for one his near equal. He punches, caused damage, them all for one reversed that damage to him.

Again, he's not destroying any city blocks from shockwaves.

Noob Superman went through a mountain and shrugged it off.

All Might won't hurt him in Round 1, and he is featless in Round 2.

@faradaysloth: Clark went through a peak, he did not go through an entire Mountain.

Causing environmental damage with air pressure is far better than doing it with shockwaves....and Superman went through a mountain top not the whole mountain.

And?

@faradaysloth: and, you're wrong.

Except that I'm not, since you admitted he went through a mountain.

Superman is not pulling off any of All Might's most casual of punches while All Might isn't replicating any of Superman's best speed feats but other than that All Might has all of the other advantages, he takes it.

@faradaysloth: When did I admit he went through a mountain?

He went through the thinest part, that's like busting the tip of a mountain off and say "I'm a MOUnTaiN bUSTer!"

No. Clark eats a Plus Ultra to the dome and goes to sleep.

"He went through a tip of a mountain " = Going through a mountain. I was talking about in general but if you want to go into specifics be my guest.

What was so impressive about Plus Ultra?

All Might was more impressive.

All Might.

@faradaysloth: Mountain peak =|= Mountain.

AM punched a person into oribit with a single punch, it took SM flying and dosens of strikes to do the same.

Saved you the trouble.

OK so you proved that AM is superior in strength, however, Superman is superior in speed, durability, versatility, etc.

@faradaysloth:

Still not the same thing you're reaching not a surprise really.

AM has better durability as he bought sold a city block strike something Clark can't do.

All Might

@higherpower:

It's reasonable to assume their punches cancel out every time they match fists, since we know what happens when they match fists due to their blows being equal.

No, it actually isn't when it's being explicitly stated that the force is being reflected.

However, even in the instance where AFO states All Might cancelled out his blow, we still see air pressure and shockwaves forming around them.

Hence me calling the rest of the scans contradictory.

The instance where they created a multi-city block shockwave is the same thing but on a higher scale. Yes their punches cancelled out, but some shockwaves and damage are still visibly seen like it was the time it was stated to negate.

Except, again, I still haven't seen any evidence that the punches were cancelled out when the dialogue is openly stating that the punch was just reversed back onto All Might.

Impact Recoil is just AFO reversing all the force All Might releases back inside of him. We've established that even when their hits negate, a shockwave is still depicted. Whatever collateral is shown in spite of negation is just reversed back into AM through that technique, so it doesn't conflict with the negation aspect of the exchange at all. And even if it did, I hope you realize that would actually support my main, overarching argument right?

Evidence that it's being negated during impact reversal? Looks to me like it's something along the veins of full counter instead, All Might throws a punch and receives the damage from said punch.

Still haven't seen anything from you supporting the notion that the force of the punch just vanishes like you're saying, nor have you shown any evidence for the shockwaves being an infinitesimal fraction of their regular power. You're still just going off of assumptions.

What nuke you know can release shockwaves at all if it's explosion (the source of the shockwave) is never expelled fully, but rather reflected and reversed inwardly at the moment of inception?

A punch is not an explosion, this is a faulty comparison.

Lol, you're just downplaying, but continue.

Superman has already been thrown at longer distances and Doomsday's blasts are easily city block+ (Haven't even gotten to the nuke yet.)

@faradaysloth: you must be trolling.

Not the same thing

DD couldn't even destroy a rock Batman hid behind

The Nuke is energy not physical force not to mention DD absorbed most of it.

The only troll here is you, from what I have seen of you on this site, you like to nitpick other people's messages and try to create some argument. You've also done this to me in the past.

Going through a mountain peak =/= going through an entiremountain.

Going through a mountain peak = going through a mountain

For the love of god, what don't you understand about this?

Pathetic lowball. DD destroyed a huge area, the blast was so powerful it threw parts of buildings around and turned the battlefield into a fire pit. But yeah, let's focus on this ONE stone that wasn't destroyed!! (100% flawless argument ?)

Literally the same as me destroying New York City, but I left this one building standing, so now I'm not even building level?

I'm sorry, were we focusing on a specific durability set, or were we just talking about durability in general? Either way, Superman has received more impressive feats. Any feats suggesting All Might would survive the epicenter of a nuclear explosion or tanking the bullets from Batman's weapons (i think they were 50 cal iirc)

Superman gets one shot after last episode.

@faradaysloth: like I said you're trolling. Going through a mountain top isn't going through a mountain.

Again saved you the trouble. If you can't understand this and just resort to calling me a troll, then you're beyond help. I'm done with this convo, take your downplaying somewhere else.

@faradaysloth: a mountains peak isn't even close to the same thickness of the actual Mountain, if you can't comprehend such a simple fact you have no business having an account on a debate site.

Clark has been hurt by bullets, far weaker punchs, etc. AM has much higher combat speed and will piece Clark up as he pleases. Clark lacks the feats to take AM @ 1OO% let alone from beyond that.

All Might wins.

Bump

Still backing All Might.

Superman versatility for the win

All-Might gets destroyed.

All Might stomps.

He hits harder than Superman and he's loads faster.

All might is basically BTEC Superman. He dies.

@tonymartial: You're going to have to explain your logic, a weakened All Might using his powers for the Last time took shots Superman can't replicate... He can also dish shots Superman can't replicate not to mention the moment this fight enters close quarters All Might can throw dosens of punchs to Superman's 1...

All Might murderstomps. Just the air pressure to his punches is way above anything Superman can replicate.

The guy who can dissipate tornadoes and destroy city blocks with air pressure wins.

The guy who punches hard wins

@thebeardofzues: All Might is not faster than Wolverine no matter how you want to cut it.

Toshinori hits too hard.

Bump.

@chronicplane: Why would you bump a mismatch?

all might gets blitzed

All Might's speed is actually undersold here.

All Might stomps.